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Complete Delenda Est by Lord Silvere - T

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by craigery9700, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    ...yeah, that's the first chapter's A/N.
     
  2. psihary

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    In case Narcissa doesn't get further involved with Lucius then the author will pretty much confirm that Harry's actions do have an impact on the future. Whether that happens or not, we'll probably see in the coming chapters. But no, I don't find it frustrating.

    The update was not bad. I thought that the dialog with Dumbledore lacked something, but then very few write Dumbledore well.
     
  3. kpjam

    kpjam First Year

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    It's not so much that the past changed, it just feels that there are slight alterations each couple chapters. Most notably with the ages. It feels like the author(s) didn't sit down and write out how old each of the characters are. I can accept global changes from canon that are consistent within the story, but I don't feel that reassurance when I read this fic.

    The latest chapter feels rushed, the beginning parts didn't work that well for me. Harry's conversations all felt rushed and incomplete.

    The plot moves on, but including the rooster out of the blue felt more like comic relief and a distraction from the plot just thrown in.
     
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    He's going to kill the basilisk, what's wrong with that?
     
  5. kpjam

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    There's nothing definitely wrong with it. It's has to do with presentation and how it folds into the rest of the story.
    Is Harry systematically going about trying to take away potential things that might Help the Dark Lord, or did this just pop into his head? If it just popped into his head, it feels a bit false. The little actions and sup-plots build into the overall story. Right now, the way this was presented, doesn't work for me. I may have missed it, but if he had thought, mentioned, eluded to in a way other then to shut Bella up that he had actions he was going to take, it wouldn't feel as weak as it does to me right now.

    The story has good points. I like the politics, and the alternate presentation of past happenings, it just certain plot points feels unpolished and a bit jarring.
     
  6. Trig

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    He knows that he's only going to stay at Hogwarts for the rest of the year, after that he's supposed to take a position in the ministry. His time at Hogwarts is limited and that's why he's going to get rid of the basilisk sooner rather than later.

    It was clearly mentioned in this chapter.
     
  7. Tenages

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    I thought it was fairly obvious that this is an AU past. What with Harry going back and living in it and all. But that's just me.

    As for shit before Harry went back? I think the writer meant it as canon past. Whether he got it right or not doesn't really affect the story at all though.

    I really don't see how this is annoying. Whatever events happened, they set and drive the story forward. It makes no difference whether it's AU or canon, and I don't see how Harry's beliefs make a difference either.
     
  8. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

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    Sure it's obvious to us that this in an AU past but it's not obvious to Harry because according to the story I've read until now Harry there thinks it is his past when he arrived.

    The frustrating part to me is that I don't know if this is the writer's imagination of how the past looked which definitely doesn't match any kind of cannon past at all.

    It's like the writer writes Lily with the eye color of blue and Harry doesn't see anything wrong with that. While the reader would wonder wtf is going on here, has the writer no clue about the world's facts or is Harry stupid not noticing this.

    P.S. For AU facts, redefinition of the Black family, ages of persons(Andromeda is still in the family while Nymphadora would be born by now) , the way Voldemort operates by using the youth first, Harry having Voldemort's original wand and probably a lot more.
     
  9. Pirazy

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    The part I find most frustrating about this story is Harry's gradual regression into awkward schoolboy when he ended up at Hogwarts, more specifically his interaction with the older characters in positions of authority. Every time he's talking to either Dumbledore or Orion or anyone else Harry somehow has a natural submissive attitude towards it feels like he's been de-aged ten years and is about to get a detention for being a naughty boy.

    I liked him better when he acted like he had a pair, kicked ass and didn't bother with taking names. Maybe things will improve when his employment ends and he can start acting more independently instead of constantly looking over his shoulder, seeking the approval of whomever is currently holding his leash. Then again, with Dumbledore's interest in him I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up teaching another subject, just so Dumbledore can keep an eye on him, and maybe guilt him into revealing a little more information, like he did in the recent chapter with remarkable ease.

    Either way I'm hoping for seeing more of the Harry that ended a riot single-handedly and then got invited to dinner at the Black family where he made an impression with his reasonable outlook on the current political climate in Britain and less of this insecure, stuttering child that can't stop studying his shoes.
     
  10. Tenages

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    I just assumed that it was either AU or, more realistically, he just didn't bother to make sure facts were in line with canon. Either way it doesn't bother me that much because it's not important to the story or the world going forward. What is important are the way things are now.
     
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    In canon, Voldemort started his terror campaign from 1970.

    But according to this story it looks like either voldemort starts his campaign from 1976 or Lily and James are much much older when Harry is born meaning that they didn't have right out of Hogwarts.
     
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    I don't think there is any canon evidence as to the exact year the first war started, only that it ended in 1981.

    And though I hate taking the wiki as evidence, since nobody seems to understand what referencing your sources means, it says that James, Lily, the Marauders and Snape and all those guys were born 1960. So if this is their fourth year, its 1974 right now. Since Crabbe and Goyle were already his followers before all the other Slytherins were approached, we can assume hes been recruiting since the beginning of the school year, summer of 74.

    So I don't think there is any chronological issue between this fic and canon.
     
  13. Shymer

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    We know the war started in 1970 in canon.

    That's Dumbledore talking to McGonagall in 1981. First chapter of the first book.

    But I don't think it matters to Delenda Est because we know it's in a alternate dimension: Chapter 7

     
  14. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

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    It only implies that he thinks he rewrites his reality's history now and not some alternate's reality's probable history. How would he otherwise assume that there's no old reality anymore.
     
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    The chapter was fine. The story is still very good.

    I agree with the assessment that this is '74. The fourth years (marauders + lily) would be 14/15, so in 6 years, Harry would be born. The Blacks +Malfoys ages are off (by six years or more), but so what, the whole point of writing a story is to make it believable, which it is. If I wanted to read canon, I'd read canon. The timeline vs canon inconsistency has been in the story for a year, I don't see the reason to bring it up now because the author has been doing a good job with it.

    And Harry's fine. It was just last chapter when he confronted Voldemort and lit his house on fire with fiendfye. Seems boss to me.
     
  16. FreakLord

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    Actually, it is one of the best chapters until now.

    In all other chapters Harry seems a little submissive.
     
  17. Pirazy

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    That was indeed quite boss of him. What wasn't boss, however, was being gullible as fuck and not expecting Voldemort to backstab once he agreed to the imperius. It is this inconsistency that bother me the most.
     
  18. Catman

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    How was he being gullible? He had confidence in himself to be able to break the imperius and use that as an opportunity to escape. He then proceeds to break the imperius, and use it as an opportunity to escape.
     
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    Just caught up with this, good fic.
     
  20. Potterondrugs

    Potterondrugs Seventh Year

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    Dam now I have to re-read this mofo........ I started out reading this to waste time until Lost Time got an update....:(
     
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