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Dexter on Showtime

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by justbrowsing, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    Take a poll of the most hated long lasting character (one who spans multiple seasons), and I would bet you a large amount of money that the majority of people would say Rita. As for why, the fact that she is a gigantic annoying cunt is reason enough.

    I couldn't really care less about her personal struggles and demons; that does nothing for me. Rita annoys me on a much more visceral level. She was one giant cockblock and everytime she and Dexter were on screen, I just wanted him to slap the shit out of her. Call it irrational hatred if you will. Dexter, both the show and the character, would have been way better off without her.
     
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  2. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Some hated her, some liked her, and some didn't give a shit, but everyone I know was shocked and even a little sad that she died that way. I thought she was a great character, but she did get in the way of Dexter's lifestyle and got in the way of him murdering people. Apparently that just pissed people off for some reason.

    Of course, I was probably a little bias myself with the actress playing Darla on Buffy and Angel.
     
  3. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I find that rationalising Rita-hate is a bit difficult. For me, a small part of it is the actress and/or the way she plays the part (I couldn't stand her stupid benevolent smiles).

    Most of it is her relation to Dexter. Clearly he's frustrated with the way she gets in the way of his activities, which is something that comes through very strongly - he's misunderstood by someone who claims to know him, and although he doesn't want her to find out, he yearns for someone accept him for who he is (which is why last season was good and necessary). On the other hand, we're supposed to empathise with Dexter's love for her, so we should like her, but that love never really came through for me. It made a lot more sense when she was a cover.

    I'm not sure when Rita really becomes annoying. I think when she "heals", and then becomes more demanding with the marriage and buying a house, it becomes very accute how she invades his privacy. Maybe I've forgotten the angst of the first season.

    In terms of her character, I found her morally shallow. Deb was always the interesting moral reference for me. She might have done better as a "morally pure" if she weren't self-righteous, hypocritical, and somewhat stupid. She chastises Dexter for lying, but does so herself (probably multiple times, the one that comes to mind is about her first marriage I think); and I found her blindness to Dexter's troubles slightly dumb.

    And then there's this type of gag-worthy scene.
     
  4. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    People are welcome to their own opinions.

    I get people just want to see Dex killing the fuck out of everything (as did I at times), but the gradual humanization of Dexter as he got grounded in family and broke the code of Harry in that regards just appealed to me more.

    I always thought they were kinda sad smiles.

    That's an understandable viewpoint.

    I saw it more as another piece of her brokeness, actually. She's had two bad marriage and finally has everything settled with Dexter, a great wedding, etc... She's expecting this to be a fairytale happy ending marriage, which its not, because there are so many things wrong with Dexter's actions that she doesn't see as fitting in a normal, healthy one.

    Self-righteous? Explain? :confused:

    Hypocritical? Just a few instants of lying (which makes her realistic, imo) and to be honest, everyone in this series holds the Idiot Ball.

    See above on her expectations of a healthy great marriage. As I saw it, she's trying to put a lot of her past behind, and trying to look past Dexter's troubling issues to make it at the very least seem like a successful marriage (which is reminiscent of the Trinity Killer's family. On the outside all perfect, inside, sexually abused daughter, beaten son, abused wife...)

    Actually, that's a theme of Dexter in general. Broken families seeming all right from the outside before you take a closer look. The Morgans had a daughter dealing with a son who got prefrential treatment, a son who was a sociopath, a father who cheated on his wife with CIs, taught his son how to be a killer and not get caught. The Bennett's had a heroin using, wife abuser for a father, and scared, quiet battered mother as well as an over-controlling grandmother. The Prado's had a brother involved in the drug trade, one who was just as bad as Dexter but with no code, and the last nearly drank himself to death. Batista's separation from his wife and his women issues, Trinity Killer's family is obvious, and the Mosiers' (Brian, Laura, John Driscoll) weren't exactly stable and working family.

    Yeah, the writers really laid it on thick with that one.
     
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  5. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Uhm. Not going to agree with that one. They all have flaws, but for a show about a psycho-killer working in a police station, they're pretty smart. I guess Baptista is a bit thick (but even he has his moments). I always found Deb a lot smarter than Rita, don't really know why. She's good at her job, in any case.

    You bring back Rita's failing to the fact that her expectations aren't being met. That's my point; she has terrible taste in men, and gets upset when things don't work out just so, when there was no indication that they would.
     
  6. The Fine Balance

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    Didn't really like the character, although I loved the function she performed. That created a lot of tension that the show would have been much poorer without.

    Amazing death scene; sad for the actress though, to go from something like Dexter to No Ordinary Family. (ugh)
     
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    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    Longstride First Year

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  9. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Your post had me worried, but after reading a few tiny articles about the situation, it doesn't sound like a disaster. Jennifer Carpenter and Michael C. Hall released a joint statement on the divorce saying that they were both filing for divorce, they'd already been separated for a while, and the split was amicable.

    Is it strange that Jennifer Carpenter's divorce filing reportedly includes her seeking spousal support/maintenance/alimony? They're both gainfully employed in the same industry with the same jobs. She can't be all that financially stressed by this.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...talks-about-her-brotherly-love-on-dexter.html
    http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/12/13/michael-c-hall-jennifer-carpenter-divorce/
    http://www.usmagazine.com/healthyli...iles-for-divorce-from-michael-c-hall-20101712

    I've tried to stick to the facts and avoid the gossip, but there is plenty of gossip out there if you enjoy wallowing in that sort of filth.
     
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  10. Militis

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    That's gotta be very weird, starring in the same TV show or movie as your spouse but not playing a married couple. I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't want to watch my wife fake-sex some random dude...

    But if they were already split up, then I guess, who cares?
     
  11. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    o_O So I just found out they were married, and now they're splitting, what the fuck?

    Watched the finale
    Car crash. Leaves evidence, his blood is in it. What happened to that?

    Deb would of at least seen their faces to be sure they werent someone she knows. I think they played her well, watching the tapes so much, that it was believable she wouldn't give a fuck if the guys all died, but she still would of wanted to see who it was.

    Quinn knows Dexter faked the blood work for him, he also knows that Liddy was killed investigating Dexter, there's no way in fucking hell he'd drop that, not with the way Liddy was calling him with something so hot.

    Lumen leaving was fucking stupid. She did an amazing job, and they should of spent the NEXT season with her realizing she didn't have the darkness anymore, and it causing a strain on her and Dex. Her just leaving like that comes off cheap, and totally ruins what was an awesome character that people could emphathize with.

    Scaryisntit:
    Santa Muerte killers were the brothers. We never found out why exactly they were doing such crazy shit before they died and Deb got suspended. Quinn dropped Kyle Butler because he couldn't get anyone to listen to him that it might of been Dexter, because Dex had a rock solid alibi. What mystery behind the nanny? Jordan brainwashed Emily. Quinn didn't make any sense at all, and when the hell was he in the van to fingerprint it up? Did I miss that? The car showing up at the Jordan crime scene, that was stolen from a Miami Metro crime scene being left out is a glaring oversight. Dexter's DNA's all up in that bitch.
    I agree with Kai about Trinity, that season he was totally out of character, acted stupid sloppy, and just wasn't his normal self, to where I felt I was watching a ripoffed show.
     
  12. Ayreon

    Ayreon Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    You could say that about any actor who's married and has a sex scene.
    But if you watch some behind-the-scenes footage, it becomes clear that these situations are so awkward and artificial that you don't have to worry. ;)
     
  13. Master-666

    Master-666 Third Year

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    Le Necro. So, if you haven't heard, season 6 episode 1 has been leaked. You can acquire this via typical torrenting means or wait till the 2nd of October for the official airing.

    Featuring regulary this season will be Edward Olmos (Bill Adama) and lets just say, his role looks to be fairly interesting.
     
  14. Nemrut

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    Batista/Sister
    :awesome

    Episode was ok, the new murderer seems interesting but didn't like how religion was handled in this at all. Especially with Dexter questioning that dumb jock. That part was just silly.

    But I feel that they will address it more in this season anyway, with the theme that the new killer is going with.
     
  15. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, they seem to be doing a religion theme. It's a decent idea, and I like the idea of Dexter having to deal with the concept of religion and faith.

    God I love this show.
     
  16. Plothole

    Plothole Fifth Year

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    I enjoyed the episode. Dexter trying to become religious is something I would (will?) find greatly, amusing, just because of how practical he is. The psycho-religious killers were pretty cool, even if all I could think about was Se7en as I watched them.

    Not really a ton going on in the episode other then a few new characters being introduced and such.
     
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  17. justbrowsing

    justbrowsing Seventh Year

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    I liked the show and forgot how much I enjoyed watching Dexter. It is a bit blasphemous (wow) to think of Commander Adama as a villain but I am looking forward to it.
     
  18. Kai Shek

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    When I heard this season was about Dexter confronting religion and faith, as well as the killer doing his crimes because of this, I was very disappointing and was dreading the premiere.

    I did however enjoy the first episode. They brought religion into Dexter's life without making Dexter out of character.
     
  19. Exile

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    I like how Dexter doesn't seem to try and understand and contemplate religion for his own self but more for his son and an attempt to ensure he does not develop a dark passenger as well. It's still a completely foreign concept and I'm willing to bet ridiculous to him but he wants to be positive his own child is mostly normal.
     
  20. KrzaQ

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    I can't believe Adama would do this...
     
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