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  1. Halt

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    *Me blinks.* *Puts on glasses* *Blinks*

    What the actual fuck.

    So, this is easily one of the strangest 1901 positions I've seen in the 6 years I've been playing Diplomacy.

    Well, I'll be posting my Analysis first. Articles on the following topics will be posted in the following days in no particular order:
    1) FLEXIBILITY - WHY OPTIONS ARE ALWAYS BETTER
    2) CHESS AND DIPLOMACY - GAMES OF SPACE, TIME, AND FORCE
    3) BOARD DYNAMICS - HOW TACTICS SHAPE STRATEGY TO SHAPE DIPLOMACY
    4) THE TRIBUTARY STATE STRATEGY - FIXING THE TRUST PROBLEM WITH FORCE
    5) STEEL REFORGED - HOW TO REESTABLISH TRUST WHEN ITS BEEN BROKEN
    6) WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM NAPOLEON - FORCE CONCENTRATION AND MULTIPLICATION
    7) TACTICAL OPTIONS - A DISCUSSION ON THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS OF MOVES AND THEIR MERITS

    If any of you want to see a certain topic first, feel free to say so.

    Analysis
    ENGLAND: You get an A- from me bud.

    I'm not quite sure what you did, but you've convinced all 3 of your neighbors to leave you alone. Russia has left Sweden (SWE) uncontested and St. Petersberg (STP) empty. Germany didn't move to Holland (HOL) or try to contest Belgium (BEL). France did not bounce you in the Channel.

    The only thing you should have done is move your army in Liverpool to Yorkshire. It's an objectively better move and a staple of any sensible English opening in Spring 1901.

    Generally, there are two ways you can open:
    F(Edi)-Nth, F(Lon)-F(Eng), A(Lvp)-Yor
    F(Edi)-Nwg, F(Lon)-F(Nth), A(Lvp)-Yor

    In the first variation, the one you did here, this is usually considered the Anti-French opening. While it's certainly possible that France allowed you in, it does mean you could attack Brest which is a huge leap of faith from him if this were agreed on. In this case, the army in Yorkshire could be used in the next turn to convoy an army into Norway or Holland or Belgium. You could also do crazy things like convoying an army into Picardy or Brest if you decided to attack France.

    Lots of possibilities there, but alas.

    Furthermore, in order to get 2 centers, you will need to abandon the North Sea position which is VITALLY important to English defense. A crafty Germany might slip his Danish fleet in, but considering he'd get no builds this turn, it's unlikely.

    Still, either through luck of good communication, it's working out for you.

    In the second variation I mentioned above, which is considered "standard England opening", the Army could be convoyed into Norway with support (in the event that Russia moves an Army to StP and contests Norway, which is almost always a British center in 1901 short of three of your neighbors attacking you right away). It could also be used to defend London if France moves into the English Channel. Units should very rarely hold as this is a waste of momentum.

    WHERE TO GO FROM HERE:

    You have a lot of options and how you take centers will matter quite a bit. Belgium-Holland or Belgium-Denmark (assuming Germany tries for Sweden) might suggest an anti-Germany stance. Norway-Belgium would be safer, less committal, and ultimately less vulnerable if France/Germany decides to gang up on you. Taking Brest would be ill-advised - France is likely to cover it with Paris and will be getting 2 centers as well this year.

    England rarely succeeds in getting 2 builds in the first year (which is by leaps and bounds more dangerous than a 5 center France or a 5 center Germany due to the nature of your defensive homeland), the fact that you've succeeded so spectacularly here puts you in a dominant position, despite the army going unused being a setback.

    Your goal from here is to ensure Germany or France can be made to ally with you against the other.


    FRANCE: A

    You've played pretty standard moves here. It's pretty clear you've got your eyes on securing Iberia and have no intentions of fighting over the Lowlands.

    The bounce with Germany in Burgundy appears to be pre-arranged. I doubt Germany would have tried to attack you by moving so aggressively into Burgundy with a fleet going north and an army going east. It would leave him in quite the awkward situation if he was trying to attack you and failed.

    The move with England I can only speculate on. It could be a betrayal, but given how openly Germany has surrendered Belgium and Holland - the former which is hotly contested but usually see Germany or France as the owner, and the latter which is a German center in 99% of all games - it's unlikely England will press his luck against you in favor of easier fish.

    Still, better safe than sorry, and leaving Paris free to cover Brest is a smart choice. I can't quite give you an A+, it would have been quite a bit better if through Diplomacy you prevented the English Channel move, but c'est la vie.

    The next turn's moves are pretty clear for you and there's not a lot of options to be had. Take Iberia, defend Brest possibly, consolidate. At 5 centers, France is one of the harder nations in the game to crack open and you'll be entering 1902 in a fairly competitive position. The only consideration to be given is whether the Fleet or Army is used to capture Spain or Portugal - and there is a strictly better moveset in this regard.

    I'm rooting for you bud. In order for Fleur to be born, you need to make sure the baguettes remain independent.

    GERMANY: D

    You are severely overreaching here, Kaiser.

    The bounce with France was good if it was prearranged. Disastrous if not. Fleet to Denmark also good - allows you to have a bargaining chip against Russia over whether you would bounce him out of Sweden if he moved his fleet to BOT this turn.

    What I dislike immensely is the move to Silesia. This appears to be a precoordinated thing with Austria, but I just cannot fathom why you thought this was a good idea. There's simply no way 2 units could feasible take Warsaw in the next turn. If you really wanted to attack Russia, you needed to commit Munich to Silesia, and Berlin to Prussia. Combined with Austria's moves, by Autumn 1901 the option existed for Austria to cut Ukraine with Galicia, and for you to support Prussia into Warsaw.

    The fleet in Livonia, if Russia was smart, might have been able to defend indirectly - by supporting Warsaw to Prussia or hitting Prussia if you used Prussia to support Silesia to Warsaw.

    Now though, you have 0 chance of taking that center, have declared war for the whole board to see on Russia, when you should be worrying about whether France or England are about to kill you next turn.

    This is a classic case of refusing to commit in any one direction, and such hesitation will get you killed in Diplomacy. When you commit to an attack, you must commit hard.

    Not all hope is lost for you. Russia may be appeased yet - no centers have changed hands although you have damaged your own position severely by wasting a turn. Further commitment against Russia seems foolhardy given England is on the Rise, France will be looking towards somewhere in 1902 to fuel his growth and you, my friend, are the runt of the litter.

    I'd suggest reaching out to France now. He will likely be easier to convince to help you than hurt you. After all, if France and England attack you - how many centers does France really stand to gain quickly? Munich?

    Meanwhile England might take Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Belgium and Kiel in good order. Such a power imbalance would mean France would be the next guy on the chopping block after you're gone. If England is smart, he may offer a center split to assuage France's fears though.

    Again just because you can take centers, doesn't mean you should.

    ITALY: A+

    As Italy, you really only have the two openings usually. 1) Attack Austria, 2) Wait. There can be multiple variations of these two themes, but I won't be getting into those here as it can quickly become complicated.

    Instead, I will be discussing the merits of waiting with a moveset such as
    A(Rom)-Apu
    A(Ven)-Hold
    F(Nap)-Ion

    The main problem with Italy is that this is a nation which wants 2 fleets like England, but gets 2 Armies instead. What then to do with the second army?

    Attack France? Could work with Germany and England, but fails more often than not.
    Attack Austria? Perfectly acceptable.
    Move to Apulia? This is so you can convoy the army to Tunis while keeping your fleet strategically on Ionian Sea. Much like my arguments for the army in liverpool moving so it can be convoyed, Ionian is a vitally important space for Italy to occupy. Lose it, and invite disaster.

    I give you full marks here. Perhaps you misled Austria into trusting you, perhaps you organized an attack with Russia and Turkey - whatever the case, you can be quite secure in picking up 2 centers this turn (as rare an occurrence as a 5 center England in 1902). Trieste cannot be forced away - and even if Austria did, you could easily retreat into Vienna or Serbia no matter what Austria does. It might even be worth it to let him retake Trieste and move the Army in Venice somewhere else - such as Tyrolia, to springboard for an Austrian attack.

    Of course, if I were you, I'd be heavily reconsidering whether or not you should continue attacking Austria.

    Russia and Turkey look to be awfully comfortable with each other, and, if you are unsure either can be turned against the other when Austria is gone, you'll soon realize you cannot win a 2 v 1 fight over the Balkans and lose any gains you may have made in quick order.

    Tread lightly.

    AUSTRIA: F

    Partly because of bad luck, partly because you left Trieste undefended, and mostly because you supported your army into Galicia. I just do not understand how that move was good for you at all.

    You needed Budapest in Serbia. You needed to bounce Russia in Gal, not actually occupy it. As a result, you might not even gain any centers this turn if Turkey and Italy coordinate properly and could quickly be eliminated by 1902-1903.

    Diplomacy will be utterly vital for you now.

    Perhaps convincing Italy that Russia and Turkey seem a bit too cozy with each other with Black Sea unoccupied. Turkey is a naval power, after all, and so is Italy. There's potential future tension there, especially if Turkey and France are on good terms.

    Or selling your services out to Russia / Italy as a tributary state, if things get desperate (more on this next time).


    TURKEY: B

    Much like Italy, most of your success is due to Austria's mishap. Your opening is fairly standard and I have nothing much to comment except that this may be the beginning of a Juggernaut Alliance.

    Russ and Turkey is a potent alliance given you are both on the edge of the board, thus allowing you to sweep West, going purely in one direction which allows you to concentrate your forces where your enemies might have to split their attention.

    RUSSIA: C

    Some of your moves are good, some are highly questionable. Moscow-Ukraine and Sev-Rumania are standard moves and quite sensible.

    Warsaw holding, less so. A bounce with Austria over Gal should have been arranged, though I suspect you were betrayed in this regard so this can be forgiven to a degree. Again, refer to my initial post about trust and how bounces can fix that.

    What I really despise is your move to Livonia with your northern fleet. This is a strictly worse move compared to moving to BOT. Any germany attack on you in 1901 is bound to fail and you've also signaled to England you refuse to contest Scandinavia, Sweden in particular. These are centers you desperately need to remain relevant in the game as Russia is not a very defensible nation (in an ironic contrast to real life).

    But the biggest failing is your Diplomacy. Both Germany and Austria are (quite suicidably in my opinion), focusing on you. While they won't get far and likely won't lead to your elimination right away, it does mean England, France, Italy and Turkey will all be growing much faster than you as a result of Germany and Austria's dismal positions.

    This is where Diplomacy gets a bit tricky. It's not just about the next move, but the one after that and being able to simulate how the game will progress two, three, five moves down the road.

    It's quite key that you convince Germany to back off now. His involvement will stymie your growth and he has much bigger problems in the West than his half-hearted attack at Warsaw. Even Hitler conquered France before heading East.

    Austria is probably a dead nation and in your accounting can be written off. The issue now is whether you can carve you a few centers for yourself in the process. It'll be tricky Diplomacy as Italy and Turkey are far better suited to gaining those centers, but being a kingmaker of sorts in their eventual conflict wins you some points...

    Of course, push too far and they may decide to eliminate you first.
     
  2. Lion

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    As the Kaiser and rightfully anointed leader of Germany I’d like to reiterate that I have called for peace and eternal friendship with everyone. I believe that peace is the only way to fix this world and by fighting we are dooming generations to a cycle of violence and hatered. As educated men I think, no I know we can put these petty squabbles aside. We should seek the betterment of mankind and advancement of our basic civil liberties. War has no victors gentlemen, only widows. I would also like to state that my armies are simply on maneuvers because as you know, idle hands are the devils playthings.
     
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    THE DLP EVENING HERALD -- April 17th, 1901

    WAR! EUROPE IN TURMOIL
    AUSTRIAN EMPEROR MAY NOT LAST THE NIGHT, EXPERTS SAY

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    Italian forces enter city of Trieste.

    TRIESTE -- Italian forces entered the city late last night in a surprise attack, stunning city elders and local Austrian defense brigades. The invading forces, led by General Marco di Venezia, achieved total tactical surprise as the sun was rising. Austrian defense forces fought briefly before being driven from the territory. City leaders chose to admit the Italians after receiving assurances that they would be treated with decency.

    "They came out of the hills like ghosts," one soldier recalled to this reporter. "We had no idea."

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    Austrian forces in retreat.

    Expert observers were stunned by the developments, and deeply pessimistic about the chances for Austrian recovery. "I just don't understand," one said, "I don't understand at all."

    Likewise, the Austrian dual-Courts in Vienna and Budapest were in uproar. The War Department here was burning the midnight oil, trying to develop countermeasures. Chances, experts say, are dim.

    "It's lost. Trieste is lost," said one Army clerk as he emerged in the early morning. "Maybe we can do something about it...maybe not. For this year, though, no. No. It's lost."

    By contrast, reports from Rome were of jubilation.

    Italian Supreme Command celebrated its success this morning. "Victory!" read the banners hanging from Roman streets around Army headquarters.

    "We did what we had to, what we were trained to do. Very few losses," explained General Armando Diaz, the Chief of General Staff. "And it's not just the Army, either. Today was a victory for the Navy as well."

    He was not exaggerating. Italian fleet headquarters on Naples was also celebrating a tactical success after taking the Ionian Sea with no contest. Experts observing the fleet were unable to determine whether it would target Tunisia or mainland Greece; both countries called for calm as they, too, eye the possibility of amphibious assault.

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    An Italian warship steaming off the coast of Sicily.

    Observers are expecting a highly contested battle to take place in the Balkans this fall. Forces belonging to four of the great powers are in a position to contest the region, and the system of alliances is unclear to outsiders. Time will tell. The fighting season is expected to last into early November.
     
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    @Arthellion completely up to you as the GM so feel free to say no, but would you consider making turn times shorter? Not sure if other players agree so feel free to chime in
     
  5. Arthellion

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    I’m okay with lowering time to half a week. Just means less time for diplomacy between players.

    Others thoughts?
     
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    Germany supports this measure, and would also like to bring up peace talks.
     
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    The nation of France refuses such talks, brokered by the nation that would dare invade the province of Burgundy!

    The talks should be brokered by Finland in Helsinki.
     
  8. Arthellion

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    Yeah. Thinking it over.

    I'm keeping the same timeframe and due dates, but if you get them in early the game will update early. So if you guys want faster play, just send in your orders sooner rather than later.
    --- Post automerged ---
    Please send your orders in the same PM thread as your first ones so I don't have to hop too much. Thanks
     
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    THE DLP EVENING HERALD -- May 25th, 1901

    SPIES APPREHENDED IN DIJON
    ABWEHR SEND HUSBAND AND WIFE TEAM; FRENCH SECURITY CLAIMING WIDER CONSPIRACY UNCOVERED

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    Girtrude and Wolfgang Kraus, arrested yesterday in Dijon.

    DIJON, FRANCE -- French authorities apprehended a pair of German agents in Western France yesterday, say sources within the Elysee Palace. Officials were reluctant to comment, but unnamed sources who had insight into the matter say the pair was a husband and wife pair, Wolfgang and Girtrude Kraus. The couple has been living in Dijon for the past twelve years, when Mr. Kraus took a job as a civil engineer with the Department's office of civil works. It is unclear if the pair have been acting on behalf of the German Empire for the entirety of that time, but authorities are reportedly alarmed.

    Interest in German activities in Western France has been on ride since the abortive German attempt to capture the territory earlier this year. Security officials and officers of the Army have been scouring the countryside for potential subversives who aided in the stymied invasion.

    "We believe that the couple was providing the enemy with reports from the town, yes," said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Dijon is home to several large civil projects. It is not known if Kraus worked on any of their construction.

    Chief among them, of course, are the defensive fortifications along the frontier. Officials offered no further comment.

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    Eight German nationals wanted by French Sûreté Nationale.

    The capture highlights a recent push by French authorities to clamp down on aggressive German actions nationwide, in apparent opposition to the German imperial government's public statements. When contacted for comment, the Kaiser's staff denied any knowledge of the events, and reiterated that Germany's focus was on achieving a balanced peace in these troubled times.

    French authorities, however, claim otherwise. Photos of eight other individuals were provided by government agents to the press, who they indicate may have been involved with the Kraus pair. The eight individuals may be living in Northern France, and authorities are asking the public to watch out, and report sightings to their local constabulary.
     
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    These allegations are shocking and I promise the full ability of the German government in capturing these alleged spies. We promise to question them and if found guilty to punish them to the full extent of our laws. No one has claimed ownership of this operation in my government and we consider these to be rogue agents, if true. I personally would also like to reiterate that peace is the ultimate goal of the German state and we abhor any attempts to jeopardize these actions.
     
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    CHESS AND DIPLOMACY - GAMES OF SPACE, TIME, AND FORCE

    I was going to link the original article on this (I believe it was entitled Lessons From Cassiopeia), however, a cursory Google search did not yield any answers and so I shall try to reconstruct as much as I remember about it.

    Focusing on the tactical aspects of the game, Chess and Diplomacy despite being different games with different rules do adhere to the same principles. Three of the most common aspects are Space, Time, and Force.

    We will begin with the simplest of our trinity - FORCE

    How many units you have on the board? In chess, each piece is given a specific point value - pawns being a one, queens being a nine. Diplomacy is far simpler in that all armies and fleets, theoretically, are equal to each other. Therefore, we do not have to deal with any needless complications of passed pawns, or two rooks vs one queen scenarios.

    Two units are better than one, no ifs, buts, or maybes. This aspect of diplomacy is purely a numbers game. How many centers have I captured? How many armies and fleets do I have on the board (while the former correlates with the latter, the two are not always equivalent! It is entirely possible to have more builds than you have centers to build from - a rare sort of problem for one to encounter, but one that does pose interesting diplomatic consequences to the overly successful player)?

    A simple study of the game might lead one to believe that is all there is to Force, but that would be a critical mistake. See, what the Napoleonic Era taught us was that it didn't just matter how many men and cannons and guns you could raise in total - but how many you could concentrate in a battlefield at a single point in time.

    A numerically smaller force, concentrated properly, can gain a local superiority in numbers against a larger, divided force.

    This is why alliances are so important in Diplomacy. Being able to open a second front against your enemy by outflanking them or sandwiching them between two hostile powers can vastly reduce their ability to put up a good defense.

    Thus, when doing a simple count of units on the board (perhaps when considering the feasibility of betraying an ally), you have to also consider the positioning of their armies relative to your armies. How quickly can Italy get troops to face France, and vice versa, if war were to break out next year? France may be a 15 power nation, but if his border with Italy is unguarded while all his units are fighting Russia in the north, then we could quickly see a 15 nation power be decimated.

    Which brings us to point dos - SPACE.

    Wars in the premodern era can be thought of really as competition for resources, one of the most vital of which is territory. As your real estate agent will tell you time and again, Location, Location, Location.

    Space is all about positioning. Just as a passed pawn or a protected forward knight in chess can increase the value of these pieces, so can a properly positioned army or fleet become vital. Space is a bit trickier to teach as this is so very context dependent.

    An English Fleet in Skaggerack or the Baltic Sea would be an impressive asset if one were fighting Germany or Russia - far less so in a war against France.

    Instead, I will attempt to impart the key principles behind what makes a position or territory better or worse.

    1) Does its occupation align with your goals and needs? Going back to our English example, if the goal is to fight Germany or Russia, Baltic Sea would be great. But if you're attempting to attack France, the Baltic Sea Fleet would do very little good unless France has conquered all of Germany (in which case, you should also probably rethink whether an attack would be a good idea to begin with).

    2) Flexibility - A territory that borders more spaces is better than one that borders fewer spaces, more often than not. There is a caveat here, of course, that sometimes a territory that borders fewer spaces, but has more adjacent enemy centers is better.

    Also fairly key is the distinction you make between a territory your unit can move to and one that it cannot move to. Thus, it generally follows that central, landlocked territories are better for armies, while coasts and the seas are better for fleets.

    A cursory breakdown of the generally accepted "key squares" a nation must hold on to (or perhaps more accurately, deny their opponents) for their defense to be tenable will reveal these principles to be true:

    England - North Sea and Yorkshire
    France - MAO and Gascony
    Italy - Apulia, Tyrhenian Sea, Ionian Sea
    Turkey - Black Sea, Aegean Sea, Armenia
    Russia - Ukraine, Black Sea, Livonia
    Germany - Ruhr, Silesia, Baltic Sea, Kiel, Helgioland Bight

    Austria is a unique case. It is the hardest nation to play from a defensive angle, having no geographic features which make defense easy. Their greatest strength, and weakness, in a defensive fight is that their home centers are fairly compact and border each other, allowing for desperate last stands and difficult slogs to buy time for words to turns foes into friends. Thus, the loss of any of Austria's home centers probably hurts them more than any other nation on the board who might shrug off such a loss and continue playing somewhat competitively.

    I reiterate that area denial is just as valid a tactic as outright occupation in many cases for these spaces. Germany would much rather not have an army in Silesia if it can be helped, but would under no circumstances feel comfortable if a Russian army were there instead. Likewise, France has no need for an army in Gascony if Burgundy, Picardy, and Piedmony (depending on who's attacking) are defended, but the story changes completely is a hostile army breaches his maginot line.

    Having a unit in key spaces can be a powerful Force multiplier for your side. A unit behind enemy lines can tie down multiple enemy units to prevent that unit from taking centers and forcing unit disbands, weakening the defense on the front and allowing other allied elements to force new openings.

    Thus, this can be thought of as "Does my unit being there, as opposed to it not being there, make my enemy uncomfortable? Do his units have to act in a certain way when he could be doing something else with them instead?" If yes, the space works as a force multiplier in that situation. If not, it may simply be an extension of the front line - and while nice to have, not necessarily the ace in the hole you want.

    Finally, some spaces, by virtue of how the map is set up, are most useful of all - especially as games progress towards the end.

    The Swing States in our race to 18.

    There are multiple ways the map may be divided in half (with 17 centers on each side) that prevent either side from breaking the other, assuming everyone plays properly. These are the Stalemate Lines. They may run East-West, or North-South (see a broader discussion on the variants here).

    It is generally accepted that Munich, St. Petersburg, and Tunis are the key to any East-West stalemate, and thus a Solo Threat being faced with a coalition of mostly Eastern or Western powers must be aware that taking these centers early may mean the difference between total mastery of Europe and having to settle for a Cold War. Tunis and Munich are particularly interesting as they can be held from either the East or the West, while St. Petersburg will always fall to a Western power given enough time and the right units.

    Finally, TIME.

    The most deceptive of the elements of war. Time is Momentum and Initiative. For those of you who might doubt the power of such concepts consider the following:

    Statistically, in a game between two equally skilled players in chess, White wins 2/3rds of all games by virtue of having the First Mover Advantage.

    Time in diplomacy, while not having a first mover, is similar. It may be conceptualized as merely the number of moves away from a home center a certain unit has taken - which is why I have heavily frowned on units that did not move in Spring 1901. Put simply, as the game progresses, the physical space a unit can occupy is dictated by how much Time has been invested into that unit. Farther areas take more time, and more investment.

    Thus, these are more valuable. A Russian Player trying to Solo would benefit greatly from an army in Burgundy, if it can get a unit that far. An English player less so, and would much rather see that army in Ukraine or Piedmont. \

    This is not meant to be a simple argument for pushing your units as far and as fast as possible - such a tactic may leave you horribly vulnerable and eliminated from the game. But, if you are thinking about winning the game, you must consider how you will sweep Europe away.

    In more games than I can count, the difference between a Win and a Draw boiled down to a single unit being a turn faster. Thus, wasting momentum by not moving (or even worse, being forced to move backwards closed to your home centers in a defensive war) can be deadly to your winning chances.
     
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    4/7 Orders are in.
    --- Post automerged ---
    UPDATE 2: FALL 1901
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    Orders
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    England @Zombie
    F NTH - Nwy
    A Lvp - Yor
    F ENG - Bel

    Italy @theimmortalhp
    A Tri
    F ION - Tun
    A Ven S Tri

    Germany @Lion
    A Mun - Ruh
    F Den Hold
    A Sil - Mun

    Russia @ScottPress
    F Lvn - BAL
    A War S Ukr - Gal
    A Ukr - Gal
    F Rum

    Turkey @TMD
    F Con - Bul/sc
    A Bul - Ser
    A Ank - Con

    Austria @Aekiel
    AGAL-RUM
    ABUD ^AGAL-RUM
    FALB-GRE

    France @Paradise
    A Spa Hold
    A Par - Pic
    F MAO - Por

    Conflict
    Battle of Rum
    Combatants: Russia, Austria
    Moves: Austrian Army in Galatia moves to take out Russia Fleet in Rum
    Russian Support: 0
    Austrian Support: 1 (Army Budapest Supports)
    Result: Austria takes Rum.

    @ScottPress Your fleet may retreat to the Black Sea or Sev or disband the fleet. Where would you like it to retreat to? You have 24 hours to respond or I choose for you. Please answer here in this thread.

    Results
    Results will be finalized once all retreat orders are in

    Build Phase
    Once results are finalized, build phase will open. You have until Sunday 8pmEastern to submit your builds. You will submit your builds here in this thread. The following are the possible builds each country may make.
    England
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    EDI: Fleet or Army
    LVP: Fleet or Army
    LON: Fleet or Army

    Italy
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Rome: Army or Fleet
    Naples: Army or Fleet

    Germany
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +1
    Build Options

    Kiel: Army or Fleet
    Ber: Army or Fleet

    Russia
    Total Troops: 4
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +0
    Build Options

    None

    Turkey
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Ankara: Army or Fleet
    Smyrna: Army or Fleet

    Austria
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +1
    Build Options

    Vienna: Army

    France
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Bre: Fleet or Army
    Mar: Fleet or Army
    Paris: Army

    Once Build Phase is done, Orders will be due Friday at 11am Eastern as usual.
     
  15. Zombie

    Zombie John Waynes Teeth Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, I have no idea what the fuck is going on now. I need to read that site some more.
     
  16. TMD

    TMD Professor DLP Supporter

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    Turn 1 Germany be like:

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    followed by a complete 180 lmao wtf is going on
     
  17. ScottPress

    ScottPress The Horny Sovereign Prestige

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  18. Threadmarks: UPDATE: TURN 2.1
    Arthellion

    Arthellion Minister of Magic

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    Results
    [​IMG]

    Build Phase

    England
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    EDI: Fleet or Army
    LVP: Fleet or Army
    LON: Fleet or Army

    Italy

    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Rome: Army or Fleet
    Naples: Army or Fleet

    Germany
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +1
    Build Options

    Kiel: Army or Fleet
    Ber: Army or Fleet

    Russia

    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +1
    Build Options

    Stp: Fleet or Army (If Fleet, designate SC or NC)
    Moscow: Army
    Sev: Army or Fleet

    Turkey

    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Ankara: Army or Fleet
    Smyrna: Army or Fleet

    Austria
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 4
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +1
    Build Options

    Vienna: Army

    France
    Total Troops: 3
    Total Supply Centers: 5
    Total Possible Builds this turn: +2
    Build Options

    Bre: Fleet or Army
    Mar: Fleet or Army
    Paris: Army

    Builds are due Sunday at 8PM Eastern. Post in this thread.
     
  19. ScottPress

    ScottPress The Horny Sovereign Prestige

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    Army in Sevastopol.
     
  20. TMD

    TMD Professor DLP Supporter

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    Fleet Smyrna
    Army Ankara
     
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