It's kinda funny, really. For some reason even mentioning each others names is amazing confirmation that we're scumbuddies.

 

We still haven't lynched Lungs. :/

 

Attention whore mod is annoying. :/

 

Nonposting players are far worse.

 

Do you want me to say who has implied he/she is the Irene?

Because you're making it sound like a town move.

 

So, not much has changed. I have nothing to say at the moment, except for hi everyone~

Oh, here's something:

Would you guys prefer if the Klackerz did NOT lynch someone, or if he/she did choose someone?

 

Depends. Do you think there is any reason to discuss who the Irene is?

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Regarding the klackerz, I think I would prefer it if he didn't lynch anyone.

I mean, we can't collectively point out anyone who is acting suspicious. Why should the klackerz be any better at deciding?

I wonder why everyone seems so unsuspicious.

Maybe it's because we're not lynching people, relying on asylum mechanics, so there's no reason for scum to be forced to post suspiciously.

 

Wouldn't that imply that we should start lynching people? Or the mafia can continue to slip under the radar...

I think that there should be a lynch today, personally. Asyluming people is all well and good, but the way you guys are planning it takes way to much time. And if we don't kill anyone in the mean time, mafia just gets free kills... and free Taure's... and Jon gets free associates... We need lynches.

 

No. And I don't think there's reason to discuss the jwlk either.

Also, your post amounted to "Even if Seratin is the jwlk like he's implying, we should put Castiel in the Asylum and then kill him."

So what was the point of "outing" Seratin, then? I would have understood (not agreed, though) if you had said: "It seems like Seratin is the jwlk and is supporting Castiel's claim of the Castiel role. Let's not kill him, then."

What did you accomplish with what you did, instead, if not giving ammo to the Vesvius? This makes even less sense now that Castiel seems to really be a town role and the Vesvius is excluded.

Taure, you're either scum or not making any sense.

 

The point was that Seratin had posted in support of Castiel's claim after Castiel described being cured by the jwlk, and his support consisted of finding Castiel's story convincing, implying that he knows LochNess was cured, and thus him being the jwlk.

Someone needed to point out that even if that's the case, it doesn't mean that Castiel is innocent. That is why I posted as I did.

And Seratin's implication was plain for anyone to see. It had clearly been done deliberately. I didn't help scum at all by pointing it out.

What may help scum, however is you insisting on discussing it in much greater detail, turning a "is he, isn't he?" soft roleclaim into something we're discussing very loudly and with much less uncertainty.

Congrats on that.

You seriously need to stop being such an idiot about this. You're going to feel so silly once the game ends.

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HEY GUYS, UNCLE STOJIL AND JWLK BOTH HAVE AN L IN THEIR NAMES.

I think they're on a team together, and I'm going to continue to talk about this for several days.

AM I DOING IT RIGHT?

 

It's one thing to assume scum isn't very perceptive (and can miss what Seratin was implying). It's another to assume they're blind (and can miss you saying what he probably is).

Honestly, I have already taken into account that I could be completely wrong on my scumreads. This doesn't mean I shouldn't try and act on them, unless I stop believing in them completely.

And right now I believe you're playing this game either as a scum player or as a stupid one.

 

Now that I say it, Jangel also has an L in his name.

And notice how Jangel, jwlk and Uncle Stojil all post around the same times. Like, all three of them have posted today. Clearly they're coordinating in some way.

This is extremely suspicious. I can't believe we didn't see it before.

 

^

Sarcastic thumb-up.

Congrats to you to.

 

Lolololol.

Okay, so... about lynching today D:? I wish someone else would come post.

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You guys all suck. K so here's my opinion. We lynch castiel today. Asylum is way to slow for my tastes. If he's the castiel, he's useless. If he's Jon, Hell die. If he's vesvius, Hell survive. Asylum is to.slow for my tastes. Is rather know now. Asylum then kill takes just way to long. Vote to kill castiel, that's my opinion. Kthxbye

 

The problem with lynching is twofold. Both relate to knowledge.

If he dies, we won't know if he was the Castiel or the Jon. That gives the real Jon, if Castiel is not it, a lot of leeway. He can claim as the Castiel and say that Castiel was the Jon.

If he lives, we won't know if he's the KaiBot or the Vesvius. Only the KaiDASH could tell us, and a) they shouldn't role-reveal and b) they might die to a night kill anyway.

So if we asylum then kill, we find out the role and solve the problem of knowledge.

 

Well that works for figuring out Castiel's potential Jon-ness (still think he slipped on his explanation) but who do you think should be Judgle lynched? I highly doubt he's going to want to sit a night out.

 

Just a couple things:

I'm a little scared of the klackerz lynch now, since I have no idea how the person is choosing the players. I'd much rather choose the lynch target in the threads. We have to remember the Vira's oneshot power to direct the klackerz' kill. (Maybe used on SmileoftheKill?)

Jon's association takes effect now, so innocent players may turn up guilty.

The main suspicions so far seem to be Jangel, Republic, LochNess/Castiel, and Vesvius. (Am I forgetting someone?)

Seratin probably should be protected.

 

I'm also especially suspicious of Gambit. I'd say I'm more suspicious of him than I am Vesvius, and I'm not as suspicious of Vesvius as I was before.

You'd think that perhaps the Klackerz just wouldn't lynch someone, but I also imagine myself in that role. I don't think I could resist using my power.

So I suppose we should at least come to a general consensus about who the Klackerz COULD lynch. They can also choose to not use their power.

Or we can pick someone. But if I were to lynch someone today (I don't really want to lynch at all today, what with asylum), I would want to lynch Republic. However, I would prefer he enter asylum. So what, after that there's Gambit, Jangel, and Vesvius. I guess I'm more comfortable with Gambit, but I'm still not entirely sure who I'd lynch.

If anyone has a convincing argument, that would help, but at the moment I just want to see what roles Castiel and Republic are, which would help in rereading the thread with that knowledge.

And I am going to bed, but I'll be back soon enough. I hope there's more discussion once I'm back.

 

I completely understand what you mean, and it seems like the most people agree with you, so i'll just leave you with this last post on the subject, and let people individually decide. In the first scenario, I know what you are trying to say, but I think we're forgetting an important part.. When will that situation ever come up? The only criteria where someone would point out jon and he'd have to counter claim, is if someone else survived a NK. With matt/Lutris out of the way, I think no one else BUT the Jon can do this. So if we get a situation when someone survives a night kill, just lynch them. Easy.

The second situation is harder to deal with, but I don't see the Kaibot claiming Castiel (unless he actually WAS the Castiel, lol wouldn't that be funny), so if he survives the lynch, i'd say he is Vesvius 100%. Do you disagree?

About the lynch. I'm in favor of a lynch tonight. Whether it is by us or the Klackerz. Generally, I agree with Ashaya, tbqh. Gambit/Vesvius (he usually contributes SOMETHING, and unless i'm missing something he's been a complete non-entity this whole game..)

 

A role which needs to be able to act at Night in order to help the Town.
I'd say think twice about Asylum-ing me, but nobody will listen, so eh.