Stojil: We've got less than five hours left, and six lynch votes on Menace. If you're going to roleclaim, go ahead and do it.

 

Deadline Lynch: Menace

Okay, there might be a way to confirm Menace's alignment without having to Asylum him. If we lynch him today, the Fenraellis will either get a kill or get nothing. That said, I'm not sure how the lack of a lynch on Day One would affect that, but I've asked Lungs to clarify the issue.

So, we lynch Menace today and have the Irene put Stojil in the Asylum. If the Fenraellis fires, we either free or incarcerate Stojil. If he doesn't fire, we lynch him.

Granted there is room for mistakes in there. Seratin, Eido/Rubicon or Jwlk could have been the Fenraellis. I'm willing to take the risk though, given the evidence Wetnurse has provided.

 

I still don't understand.

Let's go down these two roads (in the world where Wetnurse is the Jwlk):

Road A) You role reveal. Wetnurse eats you, gains a life, we lose a not indispensible townie (your words, not mine), we find a 100% scum, who yeah, gains a life, but we KNOW who it is. We're one (unimportant) townie down, know who the jwlk is, he gains a life.

Road B) You don't RR. In this world, we lynch Menace and Asylum kill you the other day. We're now down Menace (who we don't know his affiliation, because Wetnurse lied) and you (revealed as townie in Asylum) Basically, the same as Road A, except Menace may or may not be town, we know Wetnurse is the Jwlk but he has one less life (actual irrelevant at this point seeing as we do not know who the Eidolonic is)


Basically, in Road A, we move towards scum hunting MUCH faster, don't waste an Asylum incarcerating/killing you, confirm Wetnurse as scum one day faster.

Road B; Wetnurse just has one less life but protected completely anyway for now.


I don't see a world where Road A is not better then Road B if Wetnurse is the jwlk. Please role reveal.

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Aekiel; pretty sure since we didn't lynch at all there is no mislynch, so the Fen would not fire either way.

 

That's why I'm asking Lungs. Technically a no lynch could be a mislynch, or it could not. It's down to Lungs to decide.

 

Lynch Votes:
Stojil - 1 [1+0] ; Jon
Fontisian - 1 [1+0] ; Fenraellis, (Vira doesn't get a vote for being in the Asylum)
Riley - 1 [0+1] ; (DLV)Kalas
Rents - 2 [1+1] ; Menace, (DLV)Stojil (Both of my scum picking on the derp)
Menace - 7 [1+6] ; (DLV)Aziraphale, (DLV)Fontisian, (DLV)klackerz, Wetnurse, (DLV)Lucky, (DLV)Riley, (DLV)Aekiel.
Hasn't Voted: Fishy, Rents, Sesc, Caesar.

Asylum Votes:
Asylum Shanking - Vira - 2 ; Aekiel, Lucky.
Asylum Stay in There - Vira - 2 ; Wetnurse, Aziraphale
Hasn't Voted: Jon, Fen, Kalas, Menace, Stojil, Font, Klackerz, Riley, Fishy, Rents, Sesc, Caesar.

 

Stop derping, Aekiel. Just stop. The Fenraellis activates upon two consecutive mislynches. A no lynch is not a mislynch.

Font: Of course I didn't react well to Wetnurse's role claim. He was calling me scum when I know I'm not scum.

Anyway, you guys (especially Azira, which I would note) are severely underestimating the various scum factions right now. You keep saying that you can afford to lynch me AND Stojil in exchange for jwlk!Wetnurse, but what happens if you do? The odds of scum hitting the Eidoloni last night are slim to none, so chances are you won't even be able to kill him.

Right then, assuming town dies in the next two night phases while you kill me and Stojil, AND you lynch scum after you lynch me, which is far from a guarantee because nobody is actually scumhunting right now, just tunneling in on Wetnurse's claim like town did in Battle School Mafia with Caesar, these are the numbers:

7/5

If town lynches town next Day Phase, it is instead 6/6. Town will be equal with the scum factions, and everything will go downhill from there.

However, if we stick with the plan, asylum one of myself or Stojil and flip kill them, we will open up today's lynch for an actual scum candidate (OR WOULD HAVE IF THERE WAS ACTIVITY LEADING UP TO THIS CLUSTERFUCK OF A WAGON. Look at the people who started it, please god.) and get the confirmation of Wetnurse's claim upon their Asylum death. One way or another, we'd only be risking one towny and not costing ourselves a useless lynch.

Use your heads, guys, Christ.

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fffffff forgot I couldn't edit typos for a second. phone posting is fucking me up.

you can change it back, Jon. there are just gonna be some jumbled words.

 

I think I'll wait on Lungs before dismissing a viable option out of hand.

If no lynch counts towards the Fenraellis counter, then we have a viable way of confirming whether Wetnurse is lying or not without any roleclaims. That's a better proposition than any other plan going.

 

Doesn't killing a town person in the asylum count towards the mislynch counter too? If you kill me, then the Fen will be able to do his kill, whether Menace is scum or not.

 

Not sure, but I doubt it.

Lungs?

 

I completely agree with Menace here. I'm fairly certain a no-lynch doesn't count as a mislynch, but we can see what Lungs says. If we do, you are going to need to stick around. If you disappear while waiting for Lungs, well.

Vira might have a point, though. I'm leaning towards Vira being innocent, so I'm not inclined to kill her.

If any of you have been wondering what I've been doing, I've been trying to find an alternative target to Menace. I haven't come up with one yet because I'm sucking. But I am working on it. If anyone else wants to throw out an alternative, please.

 

Well, we can have him post here instead, if you like.

Lungs: Same question as in my QT. Does a no lynch count towards the Fenraellis' mislynch tally?

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Not that I'm planning on going far today. It's been alternately sunny as hell and pouring down all day, so I think I'll hang around for a bit and wait until it's not so hot and humid.

 

Since Lungs seems to be away from his computer at the moment, I say we start looking for an alternative lynch target. I'd suggest Rents or Riley, but since I can't vote it's up to you guys.

 

I would prefer Luckylee, but only if there is no way we're lynching Menace.

 

I don't think it'd be worth lynching Menace at this point, not when we only have Wetnurse's claim that he's scum. We can always lynch him later, when we have more solid evidence.

 

So, there's solid evidence against someone else?

 

I assume Vira meant me Fonts. As for Sesc I didn't see your post I'll answer in a min.

 

I've sent Lungs a text so if he doesn't answer within an hour or so I'm willing to abandon my plan for the day and decide on an alternate course. I'm leaning towards Riley at this point because the complaints I had about him haven't changed in the least over the course of today.

Rents is viable too, but I'll take an hour or so to look over other options.

 

@Font: Nope, but I'm still not comfortable with lynching Menace at this point in time. Before Wetnurse claimed, I believed both were definitely town. Either this claim is legit and we'll lynch Menace after we kill Stojil, or this is a scum plot that's trying to get both of them killed.

@Lucky: Why on earth would I mean you Lucky? I don't have solid evidence against anyone. :/

 

Oh wait, I just checked the rules again and Asylum lynches do count towards the Fenraellis counter. Only lynches though.

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So if we Asylum lynch Vira and regular lynch Menace we'll be able to see if the Fenraellis will fire or not.

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At which point we confirm Vira's loyalties (thus giving us info on her bandwagon, if she flips town), confirm Menace's loyalties and soft confirm whether Wetnurse was telling the truth or not.

Sorry Menace, but I'm more willing to sacrifice you than Stojil, if this turns out to be a scum gambit.