Uh, explain it to me: why are you voting for Rubicon again?

I’ll have to take your word for it. I’m not rescinding my vote though.

I don’t like voting. I know I can rescind them, but being indecisive is a Thing for me. I don’t like making choices because I’m afraid I won’t be able to take them back.

I know it’s stupid, you don’t have to tell me.

I have to agree with this. I noticed Fishy doing the same thing, reasoning why the mayor won’t die immediately. As a side note, Fishy brought up Sesc as mayor in the first place, but then in a post before the mayor was decided, he said he wanted Wetnurse to be mayor. Why?

Oh, I was? Wow, why don’t I remember that? I’ll have to go reread the DLPHunt2 thread some time.

Give me a few minutes to write up a proper response. I need to find a few posts, but I just wanted to post this before the thread runs away from me.

That's what her user profile said when I saw her lurking in the thread.

 

Beside being somewhat scummy, this doesn't really answer the question, which wasn't "why wait before voting" but rather "why wait before telling us what scum things you had noticed".

I had no idea that was even a thing. Good to know.

 

... Did you just say that Rents, Wetnurse and Riley can't be scum because if they were your buddy you would rein them in? Lol.

I can totally see Rents, Wetnurse and Riley acting "in this manner" as scum (whatever "manner" you're implying, I haven't actually seen e.g. Riley mixing up anyone's name), maybe they're just not fantastic at being scum? If you've seen something scummy why aren't you quoting it and pointing it out instead of immediately jumping to calling them dumb-town?

You could be regular active, but you haven't been. A lot of people found reasons to vote people for mayor other than "I like him, yay".

What do you think about Vira?

Also is Rents just frustrating or is he scum? What about Wetnurse, and do you think the fact that Wetnurse is playing better here means he's town? And in your own words, what's interesting about fontisian withdrawing from mayor?

Wasn't going through Eido's reads, I was posting my own and agreeing with him where we agreed.

- I think he's probably correctly interpreted your change-of-mind on being mayor? But I'm still working out whether that means you're scum. You are reminding me a bit of that one Dresden game where you were scum.

- We should probably listen to Eidolonic about jwlk, but I don't have any read of my own on him yet.

Any reason you specifically pick yourself and jwlk to ask me about instead of Eidolonic's other reads?

Correct, I'm not electing Aekiel for anything after last game. (Sorry Aekiel!)

fontisian's plan to pick someone who's never killed usually seemed decent.

 

In order:

1-Not sure to be honest. The vote count and vacillating over her Mayor vote seem scummy but I thought the same about font last game for similar reasons and was completely wrong.

2-More anti-town than scum and frustrating as a result of that. At the moment I just want Rents to contribute to the thread. The vote is just a means of pressuring him to do so.

3-By "having a better Day 1" I meant that he seems town.

4-It's the sort of thing that you look back at when you have more information. That was essentially a roundabout way of saying that I'm keeping an eye on her.

 

Riley’s an odd duck. I don’t think he’s paying attention to the game.

Why is he even saying this? No one was looking at him to become mayor.

Unless I’m missing something, he means Jon, not Sesc.

Sure.

About Wetnurse:

Just, what am I supposed to say to that? Ignoring that he said he could 'probably' live through two night kills, is he really that greedy to become mayor? After that post, he ditches his campaign to become mayor and votes for Sesc. Wetnurse's posts aren't necessary scummy, but they're derpy. That alone wouldn't be a problem but then I see random people supporting him, like Fishy. I admit, your mayor vote for him, Stojil, threw me for a loop. It's just strange.

Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you asked. I thought the first part of the day was to deal with the mayor issue. After that was done, we had two days to decide who to lynch, and that's plenty of time to type up my thoughts and post them. Perhaps time seems slower to me because I'm at my computer all day, but the long day phase doesn't instill in me any sense of rush.

Since not airing my thoughts annoys people, I'll do better to raise my scum-suspicions when I see them.

No, I meant that if they were working with someone, their teammates would advise them and try to control their posts so to stop tripping people's scum radar. That's what my group and I did in Star Wars 1. Having a second opinion on your posts can help you blend in and stop being so derpy.

I don't think you've been reading the thread correctly. When have I ever said that? My choice for mayor was chosen by rejection. I refused to put my faith in Aekiel because of how BSM went, Wetnurse seemed derpy, Jon seemed tricky (and he's a hard one to trust), I liked Font, but I liked Sesc's attitude more. Font then went scummy, so I chose Sesc in the end. If Sesc didn't want to be mayor anymore, I would have gone with Jon.

 

Actually no, Vira, that is scummy.

What did you mean when you said you could survive two Night Kills, Wetnurse? Even if you thought the Mayor position still gave you an extra life, that wouldn't make sense. Unless you just soft claimed a role, in which case why.

 

I also thumb'd up some posts

That said you're starting this game out strong, what changed from last game?

@Riley: How did you manage THAT much commentary and not manage to put a Mayor vote down?

 

Er, can you be more specific? Are you talking about my last paragraph?

 

This bit. You know, the bit that I explicitly referenced in my following paragraph.

 

Oh, I thought you were saying I was being scummy. Never mind. <_<

 

Deadline Lynch Vote : Vira Vira claims my post haven't been relevant when I've given pretty clear reasons why I was meh on Mayor Sesc/switched my votes. Your comments on Rents, Wetnurse and Riley, also don't make sense. Shit talking scummates seems to be a common tactic to deflect :/ I'll give other analysis later when I'm less tired.

 

@Vira

How does my statement equate to greedy? Everybody and their mother were concerned that if the mayor was perceived as a strong player he'd get night killed early. As mayor, my derpy reputation would have ensured that either a strong player survives or mayor powers are still available mid-game. How is that greedy? If anything, you're just flinging dirt after Eidolonic put you in everybody's line of sight.

@Menace

Is #146 a question addressed at me?

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Oh I forgot.

Deadline Lynch Vote: Vira

 

No, Wetnurse, that's why I specifically addressed it to you.

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Seriously, how do you misconstrue this?

 

Your clear separating of the mayor stuff and scumhunting is troubling. But scumhunting could have served the Mayor election potentially much more than any mayor stuff discussion. You yourself had doubts about candidates Wetnurse and fontisian and instead of posting the reason why - maybe trying to gauge their or others' reaction, or even just to avoid the risk of someone you had doubts on being elected - you just "wondered" why some people voted for Wetnurse in a scummy (in retrospect) somewhat subtle post to help Sesc, while saying nothing about fontisian, likely because she had withdrawn anyway and wasn't a "threat" anymore.

So, you're either not town or are just not very good at helping it.

It's not annoying as much as it is unhelpful and scummy. So, yeah.

I was busy for the first 24+ hours of day 1 of last game. Also, this is in an open setup, which inherently gives everyone more stuff to talk about, at least from a mechanical standpoint.

 

It seemed like you were talking to Vira.

Anyway, I'm not softclaiming anything. I didn't even say that I'd survive 2 night kills.

That's an allusion to BSM where I would have lived on Day 3 if Aekiel didn't decide to shoot me. Seriously, scum didn't think I'm worth killing because they thought I was derpy enough to get myself lynched by town. I don't see that perception changing in this game.

 

This doesn't feel like scum Vira, to be honest. Whenever she's been scum, she's been relatively careful, lurky, non-confrontational. Obviously this doesn't mean anything but analyzing playstyle is obviously a thing in mafia.

I would really like to hear from "dont make me a mayor dont make me a mayor" Riley.

Lynch Vote: Riley Poole

 

What are you talking about? She was both non-confrontational and super careful with her reads until I called her out on it, and even then I had to lynch vote her to get her to pick a wagon. The only thing she hasn't been so far is lurky, which isn't nearly enough to label her town.

I will agree that Riley's post was weird as hell, though.

 

Menace; my point was merely that there seemed to me to be much bigger fish to fry before we go off on Vira and that she had yet to ring any big alarm bells with me, while Riley did.

 

In response to both this and Vira's point I put that in because there was mention of putting up a less obvious player for Mayor. My name was specifically mentioned (See Fonti's post #78). I wanted it to be very clear that I am a terrible choice for the position. There's two reasons for this, 1) I'm apparently scummy no matter which side I play for and I don't want to be left alive as mayor by scum for town to mistake me as scum. 2) This is my first hunt and I didn't want to fuck town's chances because I suck.

Reads:

Vira: Pushing hard on all fronts, but in an extremely defensive way..

Rents: Fucking derping everywhere but I just have a feeling he's scum again.

Stojil: This guy, I can never tell with this guy. I hate that I can't read this guy.

Sesc:

Jon: After the mayor vote, he's been pretty quiet. Kind of suspicious. But he says work and I can sympathise with that. (Work sucks when it's during your mafia games bro, I feel your pain)

Wetnurse: The fact that they hopped off their own bandwagon works both for and against them

Aekiel: First person to vote for me, stupid reason in my opinion. Scum.

Azira: Seems pretty town, even with his lynch vote on me. Pressure tactics usually feel townish in the beginning, but I might be wrong.

Menace: pushing on all fronts, he did something similar last game, but he was also third party last game. He tried to collaborate with town until they cut ties. Unsure here. Help from others who have played with him would be great.

Nullish reads on the rest.

@Kalas: I was traveling from work to home when the Mayor vote went. I will admit, it was dumb not to put in a deadline vote but I knew that Sesc had the most by the time I was getting around to it, so I left it as is for now in case another wagon came about that was a better option.

Deadline Lynch: Aekiel. No real reason for the vote on me, not even a pressure question. Stupid, pointless and a way to pad post count.

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The should say Fonti's post #78, not the smiley.