How did this become the Dumbledore thread?

 

Because golan and starfox are auditioning to be the Next Bad Indy!Harry Fic Writer.

It's all part of the master plan, maaaaan. Dumbledore's evil chessmaster mind demands Harry be an easily-controllable pawn. The Order probably stole Harry's money and gave him love potions too. The only person who can save him is Voldemort who's not actually evil at all and oh my god kill me.

 

Can I just say, because I'm too lazy to quote it, Starfox said something like the 7 Potter's Plan was bullshit on his part... He was dead when that plan was implemented and chosen.

Also, time to finally use my ignore button. Even Syed didn't cause me to use it.

 

So we have neglect towards the prophesied saviour of the British Wizarding World then?

 

"prophesied saviour" You do know that Dumbledore does not belive in the prophecy, right? He only belive that Voldemort belives in it.

 

Wherever did he say that??

They DID abuse him psychologically. Physically... Well, there were certain comments by Vernon, that could be interpreted that way.

Dumbledore made it his job.

Which implies, that he couldn't have done anything against it whatsoever.

That's called a character shield.

He was, he placed him there. (about what kind of obligation are you talking about?)

Dumbledore isn't the devil

 

There's this scene in Dumbledore's office after Sirius dies. I can understand how you missed it, since it's not really that pivotal, I guess.

 

I feel I should point out that if Dumbledore did know about Harry's sorry treatment then it's not even remotely hard to accept that he thought it wasn't important. Dumbledore is old. His generation (and the one after, and the one after that) were very much of the 'if it doesn't kill you then it makes you stronger' mentality.

In his time (and for a long time after) corporal punishment, for example, was completely accepted and totally ok, even expected (spare the rod, spoil the child!). His generation were often of the mind that bullying was a fine thing that taught mental fortitude and self-reliance and a valuable part of growing up.

Put simply, to our wimpy 21st century rampantly liberal minds Harry's treatment was fairly deplorable. To the mind of a man born in the 19th century he wasn't treated badly at all, certainly nothing to be overly worried about anyway. Mrs Figg falls into a similar category. She may not have even felt his treatment was worth mentioning, she probably had it far worse as a kid (especially being a squib).

 

I think the issue here is that golan has never read the books.

 

I did. Coupla years ago. Translated into German (my English wasn't enough back then).

 

There must always be a cupboard.

 

...I'd advise reading them more than once before engaging in debate about the multifaceted actions and motivations of one of the complex most characters in them.

 

Has anything changed for you since then, language wise?

 

You forgot, that Dumbledore outlawed corporal punishment and was really, really pissed, when e.g. Umbitch shook Marietta Edgecombe. He may have been the first to do so, since e.g. Arthur was caught by caretaker Apollyon Pringle after a night-time stroll shag with his future wife Molly Prewett and was subjected to corporal punishment, that actually left marks.

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I think so.

 

So who painted big fat target on Harry´s back ? Dumbledore or Hagrid ? Why couldn´t they keep their mouth shut about what happened in Godric´s Hollow ?

And if Dumbledore needed a hero for Wizarding World that badly, then he should have taken better care of Harry in school at least, if mysterious and all-powerful Bond of Blood made him suddenly impossible to interact with Dursleys in significant manner.

 

Uh... really? It was pretty necessary to say what happened. People wouldn't have just believed Voldemort was gone without explanation...

 

And their explanation was that a toddler did it. Oh, he also survived AK as the first person in history too. And they were OK with that. No body, no wand, nothing to show for it.

Why couldn´t they say that protections of Potters´ house did him or James or Lily or something ?

 

Want to point out that you don't have to be evil to fuck up someone's life.