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Dumbledore's sight?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Rynonis, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. Nuit

    Nuit Dark Lord

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    So how can the wizards today not summon a thousand year old relic when they are advanced enough to surpass it?
     
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    Fiat The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Because not everyone is Albus Dumbledore?
     
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    Blaise mentioned wizards surpassing, not Dumbldore.
     
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    Juggler Death Eater DLP Supporter

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    He means that the Invisibility Cloak isn't one-of-a-kind, last of its species; wizards have had a thousand (thats as many as a hundred tens) years, and seeing as the cloak wasn't lost during this time, it can be inferred that someone along the line studied and/or replicated a cloak of invisibility. Also take into account the fact that a thousand years usually obscures information about already shady items.
     
  5. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Because it's irrelevant. If I know where you are, who gives a shit whether or not I can Summon a cloak? And some characteristics of magic, despite being directly insurmountable, aren't full-proof. For example, just because the killing curse doesn't have a counterspell, doesn't mean it can't be blocked.

    Regarding the Cloak, just because Moody "sees" through the cloak, we have zero clue what it is he's seeing. The eye could dispell invisibility/disillusionment magics in general, or it could see body heat. It could even "see" magic, and Moody has simply learned to decipher the types of magic he's seeing (e.g. blue = boggart, yellow = wizard, etc).
     
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    I can see that. I've read more than a few stories where magicals are portrayed as doing only the minimum required. I mean why should they care who is hiding when they can just know where. It's not like it could be an ally or anything.
     
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    Krieger Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Regarding the cloak being powerful enough to hide from Death but not ordinary wizards, if it was true that the wearer could hide from Death, which is unlikely, I doubt it's got anything to do with the fact that Death can't physically see the cloaks wearer, more with the fact that it hides the wearer from Deaths powers.

    Otherwise every old person in the world would be sitting in a dark corner somewhere trying to not make any noises so Death doesn't see 'em.
     
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    enembee The Nicromancer DLP Supporter

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    ITT people confusing canon mythology with canon fact.

    Several points need to be made to preface what I am about to say.

    • Death is not a person, creature, deity or spirit.
    • The story of the Three Brothers is a fairytale (ie, not true)
    • The Hallows are no more than three very powerful magical objects, none come close to achieving the powers their mythological counterparts boast.
    • Albus Dumbledore is the greatest wizard demonstrated by canon.
    • Albus Dumbledore possessed the Cloak and the Wand for twelve~ years.
    • Albus Dumbledore (by all accounts) knew magic that other people couldn't begin to comprehend.

    With that said and out of the way; nobody would know the limitations of Harry's cloak better than Albus Dumbledore. If there was a way around the protections of the cloak, and there obviously was, Dumbledore would have known.

    The important fact that all of you are missing is that it is nothing more than a slightly more durable invisibility cloak that JKR uses as a shallow plot device to demonstrate that happiness is more important than progress. What it certainly isn't is some mythological super cloak to ward off a non-existent supernatural figure with a scythe.
     
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