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Durmstrang students vs DE.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ninclow, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Ninclow

    Ninclow Fifth Year

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    We see in the books that on occasions, students have been known to best a Death Eater if their life depend on it... Yet - I have this idea that in some respects, the average Durmstrang student is magically superior to even those who are regarded as well above average in talent at Hogwarts, I mean, they learn Dark Arts and they have no dueling club, because all manner of martial magic is an 'impressive part of their curriculum' according to Pottermore. Marginally, I think almost any Durmstrang students would be likely to be a bigger 'threat' to Death Eaters than most Hogwarts students.

    Any theories? Agree, disagree?
     
  2. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Spotted another of Santi's fans.
     
  3. Anarchy

    Anarchy Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

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    Seems like you've been reading too much fanfiction.
     
  4. Pure Infinity

    Pure Infinity High Inquisitor

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    If your random assumption that Durmstrang students are superior to Hogwarts students is correct, then yes, I suppose they would be a bigger threat to Death Eaters.

    But that's only if your random assumption is true.
     
  5. Chengar Qordath

    Chengar Qordath The Final Pony ~ Prestige ~

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    About the only evidence we have in cannon for Durmstrang students being more dangerous is that they actually learn to use the dark arts. Which I suppose would make the Durmstrang students more dangerous in the sense that they would escalate the conflict. Where a Hogwarts student would presumably try to use stunners and disarming spells, a Durmstranger one might immediately use spells that can kill or maim.
     
  6. Ninclow

    Ninclow Fifth Year

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    Who's Shanti? :colbert:

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    Never read any fanfiction about Durmstrang students. Only seem logical for students who is trained in combative magic to surpass those who aren't.
     
  7. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Cedric seemed just as capable as Krum if not more so, Dumbledore was better than Grindelwald. What little evidence we have points to Hogwarts students having the edge on their Durmstrang counterparts.
     
  8. Joe's Nemesis

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    Seems to me the only things we really know about Durmstrang's education outside of what we can garner from students' abilities is what we hear from Draco Malfoy.

    I wouldn't consider DM a reliable narrator, especially in areas against Dumbledore and others who worked against Voldemort, such as four faculty members of Hogwarts including the headmaster.
     
  9. someone010101

    someone010101 High Inquisitor

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    Didn't Hermione tell Harry that Krum found his [Harry's] DADA affinity impressive, even compared to a seventh year Durmstrang student like Krum. When Hermione convinced Harry to start and teach the DA.
    That would imply average seventh year Durmstrang > average seventh year Hogwarts student, but OotP Harry > both.
     
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    Bobjoe Temporarily Banhammered

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    Given the fact that Durmstrung teaches the dark arts I think that it would have been a recruiting ground rather than a threat.
     
  11. Darthlawyer

    Darthlawyer First Year

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    The books favor Hogwarts as the best school and it's mentioned as such many times. This doesn't happen by the most unbiased people however. In the Tri-wizard tournament the other schools seem to be very eager to proof they are better. I think they wouldn't consider that so important if they didn't have something to proof.

    In the later books DE's seem to be getting more and more incapable and they change from actual treats into idiots who are getting tortured every day.

    Santi's fanfic favors Drumstrang education but for his conclusions there isn't much proof in canon.
     
  12. Aetius

    Aetius Disappeared

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    Pottermore does suggest that Durmstrang specialises in martial magic, and, after Riddle cursed the DADA professor's position, Hogwarts's Defence standards couldn't have been very high.

    We know that Durmstrang can produce wizards at about Dumbledore's level (Grindelwald), so I don't consider it inferior to Hogwarts.
     
  13. CorvusBlack

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    The average Durmstrang student could probably best the average Hogwarts student in combat because of their Dark Arts and martial magic training but neither of them should come close to besting Death Eaters.
    The problem with your original assertion is that the only students (to my recollection) that actually defeat a Death Eater without any help from older wizards/witches are Harry and Hermione.
     
  14. Ludwig

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    Anyone using the Dark Arts in a duel would be more of a danger than someone who doesn't rely on such Arts. That's not to say they are superior in fighting prowess, just that you should prepare accordingly.

    The element of surprise could be most useful for them, a Death Eater would not expect a student to know spells like the ones they use, and it could prove to be their downfall. They can see the Leg-Locking Curse coming their way, though they would rarely expect to have their brains blown out by a kid.

    In short, Dark Arts > No Dark Arts, but it depends on which level of 'Darkness' we're speaking of. Minor curses like the one mentioned above are still considered Dark Arts.

    Edit : First post ever, please go easy on this poor soul.
     
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  15. Chengar Qordath

    Chengar Qordath The Final Pony ~ Prestige ~

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    I'd say when it comes to anyone versus a Death Eater, it also depends a lot on which Death Eater we're talking about. The only entry requirement for the DE is being a racist who swears loyalty to Voldemort, so their skill levels are all over the place.
     
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