From what little I've been able to play (beta issues), It seems fun to me. Definitely more skill based rather than lock-on-and-ability-mash than SOME games. *Cough*.

Expanding on Combat: There are four types of action you can do with your mouse. Normal Attack, Heavy Attack, Block and Interrupt. Normal attack and Heavy attack work like in Skyrim. Press button, attack happens. Press and hold button, heavy attack. Blocking works by pressing and holding the right button. Interrupting works by hitting both the right and left button at the same time. Only some skills/attacks can be interrupted, others cannot.

They've stated they're trying to make auto attacks more important. You auto quite a bit, and your abilities are there to be used for different situations. I'm not sure how this works with the Sorcerer, who is a caster (which traditionally rely on abilities and not auto attacks).

 

Even more promising. The biggest problem, and ultimately the reason that I've never finished Skyrim, was the fact that the combat was just so dull. Especially after coming from a game like WoW.

 

It's a bit off topic. But Skyrim combat is dull because it's easy and not multi-layered. There are several mods available on skyrim.nexusmods.com that make combat much more interesting and challenging.

I don't see that being a problem with this game, though, I really don't.

 

Seems like I don't get to play. Servers are either down, or locked every time I try. I know, beta is beta... but this is some bullshit.

 

New Details, added onto the bigger post last page: There are, I believe, eleven different equipment slots.

That includes a 'costume' slot. Though I'm not sure about the functionality of the costumes.

 

It's times like this I really miss my graphics card, it looked amazing at the 12 fps it was running on max but then I promptly switched to low settings to get my 60 fps back. This IS still a gaming rig so integrated graphics can pull through for me now, though I'll most likely be getting this on PS4.

Anyway WD gave answers to most of your questions there is one thing I'm curious about, you have the standard slots for your armor helm/braces/torso/boots and the like but right next to the necklace and 2 ring slots theres a "costume" slot. Would that be an opening for mods from the community as something only you could see? or has someone else gotten far enough to know what they are? (I'm asking since the servers crashed on me before I couldlevel up more than twice and figured I could check in)

Edit: also I have 50 inventory, after choosing stamina to upgrade that number did not move

 

As for the costume slot. I have nooooo idea.

 

Do you have any particular suggestions? Honestly though, the biggest problem I had was that you can only really have 1 or 2 spells equipped at a time. And the fact that you have to switch between weapons and spells.

It takes a lot of the fun out of the gameplay, when you have to pause and switch to different things. Not being able to rebind keys, or set up more than 1-9 was very frustrating as well.

 

In order to not derail this thread further, I updated the Skyrim Mods Thread, and sent you a PM.

As for ESO.

Did a lot more playing of the game over the last few hours. I can honestly say that combat does feel good, on top of everything else. And the class system is interesting. I had my character totally planned, but so far I'm running something pretty different, and still having a LOT of fun with it.

 

It looks like ass, though. Seriously. Goddamn. At least pretend it's not 1998 and that you have an actual budget.

 

Please tell me that this is a massive bug, LR, not the actual beta graphics.

And on that note, anyone know if there will be a HD skins/maps pack that's possible to install like Skyrim, or if it will be locked down to counsel-level graphics? Edit: I'm talking about the "Skyrim: High Resolution Texture Pack (Free DLC)", not the plethora of custom modifications

 

It's the current beta. I can't find the pic, but I've got one of all the armors currently in the game. Some people derided some of the stuff in Skyrim for "looking like LARP armor," but at least it didn't look like it was made of plastic. The TESO glass armor is fucking atrocious.

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Also, you have to complete all quests in an area in order to continue. You aren't allowed to explore.

THIS IS TOTALLY AN ELDER SCROLLS GAME YOU GUYS. WE AREN'T WOW. WHERE ARE YOU GOING? THAT'S NOT FALLOUT 4, COME BACK.

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'hands out a limited number of beta access keys'

"Servers are full: Please try again later"

'log in finally'

Character data corrupted, kicked from queue, have to wait again and then make a new character once you're in.

'finally get a working character and start to play the game'



Welcome to Hell, kids. The NDA is leaking everywhere, and people are apparently already calling it the Scrollacaust.

 

/me eyerolls.

Every game has issues during beta. It's a STRESS TEST. So they intentionally handed out a LOT of beta keys. Obviously the servers couldn't handle it. But in the meantime, doing all that allowed them to fix a lot of issues and now the servers are handling it fine. Even release games have issues when people flood the login servers all at once. I've played for several hours during the past twenty four hours, and have only CTD'd a couple times. There are a few issues that need working on, but from an MMO gamer of about 15 years experience, and almost ten years Beta Testing games, I can say with surety that I've not noticed anything beyond the realm of understandable issues.

Anyone remember WoW's lauch? That game launched looking 'okay' for it's time period and functioning far worse than even this Beta build is so far.

Secondly, It's common for Betas to have sub-par graphics compared to release. It's happened in literally every single MMO beta I've been in for the last half decade. Not a single one of them has had release-level graphics during most of their Beta. But honestly, I like the look of the game even as it is. Being a graphics-obssessed moron only makes me care about a person's opinion even less.

Thirdly, ZOS has stated several times you will be allowed to explore. This IS a Beta, and many, many things can and will change before release. Lets not freak out and start with the hyperbole before the game actually is a finished product, hmm?

The 'scrollacaust' as you called it, is basically over. It lasted for a few hours after the beta opened and since then I've not had a single trouble logging back in, despite logging out and back in several times.

Honestly, you can't judge the game vs a release product, as it is at least six months away from release. Nor have they named a release date yet, only a general time period, so it could still be pushed back.

Edit: I looked at that screenshot. Even my graphics are better than that, and mine is set on medium. Not the recommended 'high' setting, or the even-further ultra-high. Nor have I seen any of the graphical bugs that I'm seeing in that screenshot. I'd hazard a guess that is an early-beta screenshot or someone running on a really crappy PC.

Nor was my 'character data corrupted'. Nor was I ever forced to create a new character so as to log in. I have access to the Beta Forums, and when I was looking at them last night during the stupidly named 'scrollacaust', I didn't see one report on that either. I don't know where you're getting your info, but your source is made of shit and lies.

Personal note: You spend way too much fucking time on /v from what I've seen of your comments. /v is full of morons and elitist pigs who enjoy shitting on a game even if it is good. They got looking for small problems and then spend hours and hours blowing them into much, much bigger problems than they really are. They're the angry snobs of the Video Game world.

 

Just like how they fixed all the issues in The Old Republic, and how they're totally getting around to fixing all the problems in Warframe?

There's not going to be a graphics overhaul. There won't be a major update to the physics engine. That's all already set in stone. They won't change any of that this close to launch. No game company ever has. They're only doing this to iron out the most glaringly horrible, game-breaking glitches and errors, and to test their servers (which are shitting themselves). Believing otherwise just tells me you haven't paid attention to the last ten times this has happened.

Do you even realize how easy it would have been to just copy-paste the Morrowind versions? Zenimax fucking owns Bethesda. They have the rights to those resources. They could have literally recycled them with zero effort, but they had some chucklefuck give Netches suction cups, teeth, and spikes all over them.

You actually have to work at it to suck this much.

The walking animations, literally one of the most basic and important things to get right, don't work at all the way they're supposed to, and are fucked to all hell, but they've got this massive list of in-game emotes working perfectly.

Look at all this shit.

And all of these work. But walking doesn't. Not important enough to fix just yet, apparently.

This isn't a game that's being marketed towards fans of The Elder Scrolls, or even fans of MMOs. This is being marketed at the Farmville and T-for-Teen crowd who want an MMO but don't want the hassle of having to get a PC. It's literally a console MMO.

Who the fuck puts an animation for hammering walls in before getting walking right? That's not a "it's a beta" problem. That's a "the devs can't prioritize for shit" problem.

And yet you've argued that it's good several times in this thread, and even in that post, so clearly you can only not judge something in the negative before it's release. It can be fucking awesome, and that's totally sound logic.

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Oh, and people are still getting corrupted character saves, being forced to start over from scratch due to game-destroying glitches, and having the game CTD for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and the servers still aren't even remotely large enough to contain all the keys they handed out. The clusterfuck is still ongoing.

If you actually think they're going to have time to fix all of this shit and also completely overhaul the graphics and the physics and the broken combat system where ranged non-magic and melee are useless, I have a bridge to sell you. It's in the middle of northern Elsweyr.

 

TOR also fixed A LOT of it's bugs over Beta, including some pretty fucking major ones. I have no idea what you're talking about, really. Lots of game companies have fixed major shit during their betas. The servers are not shitting themselves. They shat themselves at the start, but over my six or seven hours of play since then I've had no more login related issues. Not one.

Oh look, a blaringly User-Edited image talen from a no doubt intentionally-crappy angle. The edit's entire purpose being to make the comparison look that much worse. Why, that's a GREAT comparison.

My walking animation and the animation of everyone I've seen except a for follower-npcs are working just fine. Even then the follower-npc glitch is fairly rare and goes away as soon as you stop moving for a half moment.

Welcome to Hyperboleville, Population: You.

See previous, you're talking out your ass. My walking animation is fine. The fact that it's only happening to a specific subset of actors in the game says it very much IS a 'beta issue'. So is the walking animation of every PC I've seen and every NPC that wasn't following someone around.

Because the entire point of a Beta is to improve the game. So I can say 'so far, at the point it's at, it's pretty damned good, and only going to get better'. But all the complaints and comparisons you're making are things that can change and that no-one really has any idea about, even people in the 'standard' beta test. You're listening to half-assed info from a bunch of morons on /v. Not exactly the most reliable source.

In fact, I'd go so far as to call /v one of the LEAST reliable sources. They sometimes kinda get shit right. The rest of the time it's just edgy fags trying to be even bigger Video Game Review Douchebags than everyone else on the fucking board to prove how 'elite' and how 'high' their standards are in a pathetic attempt to bolster their flagging self confidence.

In all honesty, I like the game. But it's a personal like. I'm not calling it super fucking amazing. Nor have I ever called it 'fucking awesome'. However, I disagree with some of the design choices and they obviously have a lot of work ahead of them.

 

Games evolve over time. We'll see major changes happen to character balancing, skill allocation, graphics bugs, etc. over the course of time after the release. It's nearly inevitable that games will be finicky and nearly impossible to enjoy pre-launch and almost just as bad on launch week. Sending reports with design bugs into the company that created the game is far more helpful than complaining about beta issues, of all things...

You can't really fix lore that starts out wrong, though. TES Taures aren't going to have much hope, if what I've heard turns out to be true.

 

I just want to jump in and back up WalkingDisaster's post. I too am currently playing in the beta right now and my graphics are nowhere near as bad as the screenshot linked. I am not even playing on the highest setting. As for being unable to log in, I had that problem when it first launched Friday night, but after about 8 or 9 o'clock eastern time I have not had any problems at all. I have logged in and out multiple times over the course of over ten hours of play without any problems.

Also...FOR THE QUEEN!

Edit: I forgot to mention that the costume slot was used to disguise yourself as a mercenary in a quest that involved a sick town so that you could get into a mine guarded by said mercenaries. I don't know if it will only be used for disguises, but that was the one instance I have used it for so far.

 

When I played the beta only the starting class skills/talent lines were morphable and all the other ones were not. Did they change that? Are you able to add additional class talent lines? When I played I felt like this was a lot more limiting than they presented the game as being. Why would I take weapon skills instead of morphable class skills when I'm already so limited in the number of skills I can take into battle? There's no reason to take a dual wield 3 hit bleed that does marginally more damage than auto attacks over teleport backstab 5x damage below 20% health with a healing component if the skill kills the enemy.

 

He mis-stated. It's true that you can't get other race/class skill lines. Still, there are a LOT of skill lines left over to get.

 

LR, no MMO will ever have amazing graphics.

The worlds are free roam, therefore you have loads of shit to render and model.

Plus it has to handle all the other interactions with npcs and other real players. And since it works on subs, they likely want players with old PCs to be able to handle the game in order to maximize profits.

In any case, I thought that the graphics were good enough.

Off topic : I decided to start playing MMOs a month ago and am starting up a char on Swtor. It's not that bad. There are optimizations issues, and balance between classes problems, but it's okay. Oh and if some people play on The Red Eclipse server, hit me up.

Offtopic 2 : WD, Dice hasn't fixed shit on BF4 during the beta. Makes me a bit weary of betas D: