1. DLP Flash Christmas Competition + Writing Marathon 2024!

    Competition topic: Magical New Year!

    Marathon goal? Crank out words!

    Check the marathon thread or competition thread for details.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Hi there, Guest

    Only registered users can really experience what DLP has to offer. Many forums are only accessible if you have an account. Why don't you register?
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Introducing for your Perusing Pleasure

    New Thread Thursday
    +
    Shit Post Sunday

    READ ME
    Dismiss Notice

End of the PC

Discussion in 'PC Discussion' started by calutron, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. calutron

    calutron Unspeakable

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2007
    Messages:
    745
    It's the end of an era of computer technology with HP announcing that it's pulling out the PC business. The advent of newer computing platforms has made PC's a very difficult business with low margins and almost no growth.

    Of course IBM pulled out a while back selling it's pc business to lenovo, now it's HP and maybe Dell will leave in the future.

    link

    Of course this probably doesn't mean much in the short term, with other companies just taking over HP's market share. But in the long term this could drive up PC and component prices
     
  2. BloodRedSword

    BloodRedSword High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2007
    Messages:
    564
    Location:
    A place where we had caned American
    Damn... This is surprising... But why would it drive component prices up?
     
  3. Jas

    Jas Fourth Year

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    134
    Location:
    Australia
    And with the advent of HP closing up shop, their touchpad is now selling fast for bargain prices as low as US$100 in online stores if you are fast enough to grab a bargain. For those of you who are a bit more lazy, available over ebay for US$250 + P&H for the 16Gb models. If I come across one with not much effort in the 100-150 range I will probably snap one up.
     
  4. Vir

    Vir Centauri Ambassador ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Canada
    High Score:
    1,907
    HP isn't closing shop. They're now focusing on software for the consumer, and higher-end server grade hardware. They didn't make any money off of the PC sales, despite sales being fantastic. This isn't the end of the PC at all.
     
  5. Beonid

    Beonid Seventh Year DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2008
    Messages:
    201
    Location:
    Melbourne
    You're treating a sale as something it's not. Being replaced by another company is not the same as HP's PC division fading into the ether, along with all the demand created by its customers.

    The PC may experience a decline in the market, but at the moment, there isn't any real alternative, apart from laptops. Tablets simply aren't up to scratch.

    edit: Also, what Vir said.
     
  6. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2006
    Messages:
    3,336
    Location:
    Axis of Evil (Original)
    Was HP even manufacturing their own components? Even if so, I don't think it would have a considerable impact on component prices. Most hardware is manufactured in Taiwan/China by companies few laymen could name.

    Anyway, the PC won't die out - even if it will be a less important part in home entertainment etc. The fact that the PC market shows little growth and low margins doesn't mean it's going to die out - it just means the market is saturated. The end of the gigahertz race also means that it'll be harder to get most people to upgrade their PC every two years, especially when their requirements are also met or mostly covered by a tablet.

    I'm looking forward to see how successful Microsoft will be in handling the Tablet issue - whether the "post-pc" opinion or the "new formfactor" view will prevail. If the tablets abilities will widen in scope to replace the usual needs that have been covered by PCs so far (e.g. Office work), I can see even more people moving from desktops to tablets.

    For the foreseeable future, I will stick to my PC - I prefer the game experience over consoles, and I don't believe my browsing needs will be met by a tablet - especially not by an iPad. And I love the mouse+keyboard combination - you'll have to pry those from my cold, dead hands.

    Unless the macbook touch thingamajig was available for a Windows laptop ... that may be worth a try. Let's see what Win8 can do...
     
  7. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    8,020
    Location:
    Australia
    This is my keyboard, this is my mouse.

    Fuck your Tablets.

    Get out of my house. :awesome
     
  8. Innomine

    Innomine Alchemist ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,335
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New Zealand
    High Score:
    4,500
    Yeah, I can't see Desktop/laptop computers dying out anytime soon. They are still far too necessary for day to day life.

    Gotta say though, i fucking love my multi touch trackpad, and intend to buy one for the next desktop computer that I get, which will probably be an iMac. Only thing I use a mouse for is gaming.

    But yeah, tablets simply cannot beat the convenience and ease of use that current PCs have, tablets are consumption devices, and still pretty crap at multi tasking, no matter what OS you run on.
     
  9. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    6,193
    Location:
    Washington, D.C.
    PCs won't die, but they'll def fall out of favor with most consumers. A high-end laptop + giant monitor suits my needs while being loads more useful. Tablets are consumption devices for the vast majority of people, but more businesses are finding uses for them everyday.
     
  10. Murton

    Murton DJ OEM DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,270
    Location:
    Newcastle, NSW, Australia
    The 'tablet' device really fits in between device when it comes to their usage. They are very much a consumption device. They aren't really creation devices which is what keeps them from killing off the PC form factor.

    They fulfill casual computing needs, things like full featured word processors are really what keeps the PC form factor around.

    It will be real cloud computing which will see the PC form factor market share reduce greatly. None of this 'iCloud' shit, but real cloud distributed computing where all the processing is done 'in the cloud'. It will also be a massive boon for mobile devices.

    We are at the time where our mobile phones are more powerful than consoles such as the Nintendo 64 and even the PS2.
     
  11. MrINBN

    MrINBN Unspeakable

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    754
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    End of the PC? lolno. One company may be getting out of the PC business, but there's still other companies that will gladly sell computers to people.

    And building your own is always an option. I built mine with top level parts for probably half of what Dell or HP would have charged me for a computer like this.
     
  12. Mercenary

    Mercenary Snake Eater

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,894
    Location:
    420blazitville

    o_O?


    "Microsoft announced today they are pulling out of the console market"

    Gais Gais Console era is dead guys!


    'course its not nearly along the same level. But still a good analogy?

    So HP is pulling back. Not surprised though. What do you think of when you hear the word laptop/touchpad?

    For laptops: Dell, Asus, Lenovo.
    Touchpad: iPad, Toshiba(but mostly iPad. Apple really did get the brand recognition there. XD)

    You dont think Hp... when I think Hp its... "Printers."

    Besides like World said market saturation. There's no drive to consumers to get the next new cpu when its a relatively marginal improvement over their old one. I mean there was a real big hurry to get from single cores to dual cores to quad cores and now? We're kind of sitting pretty at quad cores for the consumer because 8 cores is a bit expensive and so is putting another quad core onto your mobo. And your mobo needs to support two cpus as well. A lot of upfront cost to the consumer that might not really need it.
     
  13. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    6,193
    Location:
    Washington, D.C.
    The only "PC" I see getting any sort of footing are HTPCs - which are basically glorified NAS drives. Especially if your television has its own OS/apps.
     
  14. potter

    potter Raptured to Hell

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    25
    With more and more people realizing that they can get more out of their PC budget by building one of their own, PC businesses will likely get out of business pretty soon. I can see Acer staying in the game the longest. Cause they have some pretty cheap machines too compared to what other competitors are offering.
     
  15. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    293
    Location:
    Dún na ngall
    High Score:
    5,792
    You'll just comment in every thread until the end of time won't you?
     
  16. Innomine

    Innomine Alchemist ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,335
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New Zealand
    High Score:
    4,500
    Aaah, so this guy is why my "New Posts" page suddenly became way bigger than I remember it being. I thought i had been keeping on top of that.