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General League of Legends v.2.0

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Dark Syaoran, Sep 10, 2012.

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  1. BsuperB

    BsuperB Headmaster

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    THe number of people on reddit who're butthurt over losing that early-game burst is insane. I've never touched her (and I haven't read the maths) but they seem to think her late-game will be terrible too. Not sure really.

    J4 got is getting smashed on the PBE and Singed is getting a huge nerf swing too, no idea why honestly. It's only PBE but I'm starting to wonder what Riot think; As an example, Randuins is getting nerfed (admittedly it's only -5% AS slow for the moment) when it's arguably the best defensive item against a lot of champions/items, though I suppose that might be why. God forbid people forget about Warmogs due to BotRK.
     
  2. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    @Bsuper: The hilarious part is that LB actually gained damage at lvls 6-8. It's only when she gets rank 5 Q but hasn't received rank 2 R that she loses out on any damage output.

    After that, it's all down hill until you get into crazy 1000 AP numbers, which shouldn't happen anyways.
     
  3. Fenraellis

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    The question stands, though... how does it interact with the extra triggered effects on Q and E? If they do the same as the Ult damage, than it's overall a buff, if they do their basic damage, than there is no way the new ult can be calculable as stronger than +40% of the original spell's damage.
    Mimicked W is going to be simply 35 base damage higher, rather than +10/25/40% total damage, which is outright weaker as well. The exception being a level 1 Ult compared to level 1 W, with level 2 as strong as level 1 of the new Ult without +% damage of the current Ult even being considered.

    Honestly, I find it difficult to consider this a buff on anything except for using E, again depending on interactions with the trigger effects on Q and E.
     
  4. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    I hate everything about high mobility, CCing assassins. On my shit list: Lee Sin, Khazix, LB, and to a lesser degree Kassadin, Veigar, and Akali. I haven't seen enough skilled play for Zed to make the list, but I'm sure he could if well played enough.

    From a gameplay perspective, if an assassin can all in one member of your team and escape I don't see how at any level that is fair. In the past assassins were mostly a trade (their ADC/APC for your assassin) but recently with the trend of low CD or reset assassin it feels like there is very little counterplay besides itemizing against them as a team. This is why reset based champions with an escape are always strong in solo queue, and it is very frustrating as any of the other roles to play against. The basic rule of the game seems to be (with the possible exception of support) if you do not have a gap closer/opener you aren't viable unless you bring an extraordinary aspect your team (excessive CC, very tanky, etc) beside damage.
     
  6. Bill Door

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    Wut. How is Veigar in any way high mobility or an assassin? And how is Katarina not on that list, in my book she's worse than all of those for killing someone and getting out after.
     
  7. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Veigar has a stun and his combo can one shit people from range. The counterplay to that character is to dodge his stun cage that can occur from half a screen away. He doesn't have personal mobility, but his character can kill things in either side of the screen in one combo, as opposed to Khazix/Lee Sin/Rengar who are in melee range.

    Admittedly an oversight though.

    Katarina has low base damage, so unless yiu have been taking free harass all lane at 6 she won't be able to all in you at 6 and outright kill you. By definition Katarina is a clean up character, not the front bursted damage like Khazix or LB. Her CC is pretty weak by comparison, just a minor slow on her ultimate that ain't even keep you in place for the duration of her ult (if she shunpos onto you and you start walking away as she yore you'll leave her damage range before the ult finishes).

    Unless fed, this how the characters play:

    Khazix, Zed, LB: pick someone and make them your bitch in a teamfight, then try to survive to do it again.

    Katarina: wait until your bitch is low then all in them. If it worked, pick a new target, repeat.
     
  8. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    So... Q is weaker until lvl 16+, W is weaker except for lvl6/7(when W is probably still level 1), and E is essentially always stronger(presuming you don't max E by level 9).

    I guess with the presumption(confirmed?) that it functions fully off of both the impact and trigger on her Q(and E), then it is a late game buff. For being only a moderate nerf for early game, I suppose it's a fair enough trade. I would miss the occasional time where it was worth Mimicking her W for aoe damage, though.
     
  9. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    It's not even going live anyway.
     
  10. Deviace

    Deviace Second Year

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    BsuperB could you post some of the changes to J4/Singed?

    Those are the two I've been playing a lot recently and I'm super sad to hear that they're getting nerfed =(
     
  12. BsuperB

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    Jarvan IV
    Golden Aegis ( W ) bonus shield amount per nearby enemy champion to 20/30/40/50/60 from 20/25/30/35/40
    Demacian Standard ( E ) no longer grants bonus armor to allies.

    Singed
    Fling ( E ) AP ratio reduced to .75 from 1.
    Fling ( E ) damage reduced to 80/125/170/210/260 from 100/150/200/250/300.
    Insanity Potion ( R ) no longer grants reduced disable effects.

    Pretty huge nerfs to Singed with his ult though J4's flag's crippled too. I think they changed the AS on it but that might've been an older build. Those are from the 6th March build & PBE is PBE, though I expect the J4 nerfs to go live, not so sure on Singed, might do some minor tweaking.
     
  13. ElDee

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    Jarvan IV had some mana cost and base armor changes at one point too, but... yeah, PBE is PBE. Still, I'm worried. I'll still be able to take him top lane and dunk on people with 21/9/0, but his early jungle is going to be a lot weaker.
     
  14. Fenraellis

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    Jarvan is also getting an increase of +0.6 armor per level.
     
  15. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Have they worked out their server issues yet? I played roller coaster tycoon for the past week instead if risk server stability issues. Remember when Riot used to give us free stuff as an "im sorry we sucked."?
     
  16. ElDee

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    If you remember that, then you should also remember the sheer scale of the problems Riot had back then. A little server instability is nothing compared to that.
     
  17. The Berkeley Hunt

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    I have had about three games with sub 200 ping in the last month. Its seriously irritating since I know the problem lies with Riots server and not my connection. I am extremely eager for the aussie server.
     
  18. Super Bunny

    Super Bunny Fourth Year

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    Hello everyone! I would like more opinions on this:

    Does alcohol make you play League better? Cuz I'm looking for anything that will help me climb elo that doesn't involve paying or duo'ing for it :(
     
  19. ElDee

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    No, it slows your reaction time and impairs your decision making. The only thing that's going to get you better is practice. You need to stop caring about raising your Elo/LP/MMR and just focus on improving yourself as a player. Do that and the rating will come.
     
  20. Jon

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    Is that you Bunny? lol.
     
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