MY ERA HAS BEGUN. HAHAHAHAHA.

 

Miss Fortune seems like she will dominate low elo like in times ancient. And Graves is crazy strong on live currently.

 

Anyone following the recent drama with H2K, TSM and Svenskeren?

It's amazing to see the depths to which Reginald will sink. I mean, I knew he was a shit, but every time I don't think he can be any lower he proves me wrong.

Regi is the only reason I refuse to be a TSM fan, tbh.

 

I don't follow that sort of thing precisely because I like liftlift and bjergson, and would like to not feel prohibited to be a fan of their team.

 

Wtf lol, I'm not sure how you can look at what's been going on and decide Regi is the one at fault?

 

I can't see why they're arguing over Svenskeren of all people. Dude had a shite season from what I remember & well, do we even need to mention his stunt at Worlds in S3?

Still, whatever's available I guess. Seems like he had both offers and chose TSM. Wouldn't be the off-season without some drama, though I'm kinda sad we haven't had any CLG poaching fines just yet. Still got some time, though rumour is Zion's staying after Hauntzer beat him out for TSM's top lane opening.

 

Because he's the one who took private conversations and negotiations public hoping it will net him support?

 

After H2K lied several times about the situation he released evidence of what he had been saying? Yeah, how terrible of him.

 

Well, who exactly lied? H2K replied with proof that what Regi said was untrue.

It's all there on Reddit. No doubt both did stupid stuff, and neither is completely right or wrong, but just believing what Regi says is equally retarded.

That's why it's 'drama'. Because it's an ongoing series of accusations and counter-accusations. It all started because Regi was a shit who went public with private negotiations.

 

Err, it started with the richard lewis article containing a statement from H2K saying that Svenskeren had signed a binding agreement to play for them and that TSM were poaching him. Neither of which were true.

 

I hated Regi as much as the next man, but I can't really see what he's done wrong here.

He and his business/team/whatever had been accused of poaching a player, and he responded promptly with proof that that wasn't true. It was pretty much the only way he could respond to the public accusation without the 'public' all assuming TSM were in the wrong. It was an accusation, proof that the accusation was false and then an effort to save face by H2K. Feels a bit like another #BIGSORRY event.

I even read all the stuff about it again, and I still can't see what he's done wrong, try as I might.

 

????

The lawyers can and will prove easily enough that no poaching took place. RIOT themselves assured it. There was zero reason to publicize private conversations between H2K and Sven beyond trying to drag H2K through the mud.

What Regi publicized wasn't proof that there wasn't any poaching, it was him trying to prove that H2K attempted to coerce Sven into joining, that H2K were harassing him. That was the dick move, not him proving that he didn't poach Sven.

 

So Regi has no right to defend himself and his organization? H2K gets to accuse him all they want and he has to wait for RIOT to take action?

You're letting your dislike for Regi cloud your judgements here, Rep. Regi has every right to defend himself in the eyes of the fans. This isn't a court of law it's the court of public opinion, and for an organization like TSM it's incredibly important he not let things like this grow or continue without a response. If it was some other team I heavily doubt you'd be taking the same stance.

Honestly, H2K deserve to get some mud on their face. This was a BS publicity move and their Reputation will take a rightfully earned hit for their sheisty intentions.

 

Your reading comprehension must be failing. As I already said, I don't mind Regi disputing the poaching attempts. What I do mind is him posting private bits of conversation in order to try and convince the public that H2K are harassing/threatening Sven in order to get him to sign with them.

You don't go public with private negotiations and conversations in order to try and slander the other. In any business. It's bad for everyone involved, because then the other party will have to do the same to defend themselves, and you end up with shitty drama-fests like this where everyone flings shit at the other in an escalating fashion. Regi reacting like this loses him face among his peers, team owners, managers and the like.

 

I'm personally really looking forward to TSM TaipeiChingChong.

 

But H2K went public first, not regi. If they're going to pull crappy moves like that there's NO reason not to pull out all the stops. It was H2K who pulled the sheisty crap first, Regi has no reason, moral or otherwise, to hold back information which could serve a purpose in clarifying what really happened. Regi gets lots of heat, much of which he deserves, but in this case the 'private conversations' were an integral part of his PR defense and I see nothing wrong with his actions.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on this, I suppose.

 

Just to clarify - because I'm learning about this through this debate and am a casual LoL fan at best - you're taking the stance that Regi should have upheld a confidentiality 'agreement' that was already broken to smear his name in the first place?

I'm definitely of the opinion in business that you don't air your dirty laundry, even when you're in the right. It makes you an unattractive partner in the future.

Because yes, regardless of what the public think or are saying, if there's some shady shit going down, it's for RIOT to settle and no one should say anything.

If H2K start shit slinging though? (especially when it seems BS from what you guys are saying) Regi is almost obligated to reply in kind.

 

I hate pretty much all the itemization changes. Talk about massive BS.

ADCs are going to shit on everyone. Forever. This is WAY worse than league of cleavers.

Riot just basically gave the middle finger to AP champs especially. Way to fuck it up, Riot.

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New minion mechanics are also dumb as shit.

 

But it wasn't, not really. From H2K's point of view at the time, it seemed like Regi was poaching. By all accounts, it probably was just an effort to use the public to make Regi back off, but proof of poaching is easy to come by, and would have been easily solved by Regi, his lawyers and/or RIOT.

I'm not saying Regi shouldn't have said anything. By all means, if immediately making sure the public doesn't think less of you until an official statement is made is this important, present your proof that you weren't poaching. Then H2K will release an apologetic statement, and that'll be that.

Regi didn't stop there. He went above and beyond and said: "Also, have a look at these very carefully selected and out of context bits of private conversations of which I wasn't part. They're not relevant to whether I poached or not, but they sure do make H2K look like assholes, so have at it!"

Taking swings at each other is expected, but this goes beyond professional contention and dives into low, unprofessional blows meant purely to discredit for the sake of discrediting.