Am I the only one who auto-dodges if someone locks in eve? I absolutely refuse to be in a game with anyone who plays her. 95 percent of the time they're useless or a feeder.

 

No, you aren't the only one. That's why people lock in Eve when they need someone else to dodge.

I don't, but that's because I don't give a shit. I'm here to play, not masturbate to my W/L ratio. I probably will complain, because it's certainly less fun to lose... But dodge? No, probably not.

 

The thing is, with Eve, I could see her being a fucking terrifying AD champ if she could survive to get Trinity Force and maybe Atmogs, because her Blood Spike procs Sheen and has a CD of less than a second. As soon as you get Sheen you might as well double her attack damage in your head, more when you get full TF. Furthermore, her ult is basically Yi's ult with even higher stats and lower requirements to proc the full CD, only needing you to assist in the kill to have it all the way off CD, which is nearly impossible not to do if you're anywhere near it.

Add that to the armor-mr debuff she has and her stealth, and she'd make an insanely good AD carry, if she could ever farm it.

But she can't. So she isn't.

 

Like you said, she has a weak early game. And while her STATS looks good later game, but later game means the enemy teams probably will have Oracles. In other words, she's a squishy champion with no gap closer. So useless beginning to end.

 

That's why jungle Eve was the better Eve. Easy farming with no one to really harass you out.

Also, I prefer the Rammus approach on her. Get so fast that the enemy has no time to react before you're on them. Since her ulti duration is long as all hell and she can avoid normal wards, it'll be easier for her to do that.

 

Despite her being weak early game and easily countered late game, Evelynn can still be a decent counter-jungler, ward sweeper and roamer against pub teams. Just by being in the game she's forcing the enemy team to either farm under their turrets or spend 375g every 3 minutes for pink wards in each lane. And if you're playing a weaker jungler without sustain, having an Eve follow you around and pounce on you whenever you drop below half health is ridiculously frustrating.

 

I had a rather harsh game just now where some shyvana who was losing was supposedly trash talking his entire team. He was 2/6 and asked everyone to report his entire team except for Fell, because Fell wasnt bad. Fell was 1/9/3 while their heimer was 6/2/3 and doing well in mid.

I said "why report heimer, he is doing 10x better than naut?" and the Shyvana, who duo queued with naut and took offense, started trash talking me. Now, trash talking is common in league of legends, but this guy was saying things like I want to kill you, rape your mother, and slit your throat. Just way over the top for really no reason. Makes me want to start a blacklist thread. Not for bad players, but for genuine assholes.

Shyv's name was Adolar and his friend was Fell03. My advice is to avoid them if you come across them.

 

Those are the funniest trolls, because you can just ignore or /ignore them and they are harmless. Often times they can be pretty funny, and they only hurt their own play. As long as you don't respond then you're fine.

 

Report for verbal abuse? I wish I cbf to find my screenshot directory and actually out those people into the tribunal. Feeders and people who talk about things to my mother make me flip a shit. Not feeders as in "lacks common sense so dies stupidly" but feeders like "hey, Cmere and kill me other team".

 

I bought Lux on a whim earlier today, and I just started playing her. Against bots, natch, because I find it retarded to try picking up a champion against actual people. Regardless, she's so much fun. And her kill potential is through the roof, now that Finalis Funkelm procs illumination before adding another charge of it to the champion(s) hit by it.

I think I have a new favorite champion, to be honest.

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That's... partially true. Sadly, the Yi-Ult comparison part is quite false:
Ults of Evelynn vs. Yi
Cost: None 100
CD: 90* 75**
Dur.: 10 8/10/12
Aspd: 25/50/75 40/60/80
Mov.: 20/25/30 40
Ex.: 300hp Can't be Slowed

*Fully refreshes on Kill/Assist.
**Fully refreshes all abilities on Kill. By half on Assists.

With that comparison in mind, the only part where Yi's Ult really loses out on is the mana cost, and the duration at level one. Arguably refreshing the Ult only fully on Kill/Assist, versus refreshing all abilities on Kill and half-refreshing all on Assist, is still in Yi's favor.

That being said... I still enjoy playing Eve from time to time. As long as the lanes have access to a reliable CC at least. I used to play her as AP, with those lovely perma-proc'ing Lich Bane hits, but then after trying AD again(the first time didn't really take), I realized that it was more reliable at end game. The early-mid game is comparable, if slightly weaker, but the late game is significantly better. That and late game AD Eve can somewhat ignore Oracle's Elixirs, simply because she can actually kill Tanks and Tanky AD champions, which would otherwise be a trial for AP Eve.

Sadly, it's that idea of getting there, which can be tricky at times. I usually lane until Sheen(and maybe Boots of Mobility) and level 6, then I get my roam on. It's all relative, although it's still rare for me to go negative K even in a game that turns out as a loss.

 

What's with pros and picking Kog as their AD carry? To be honest, I generally feel like Kog=Yi. If you know how to counter him, he folds. I know a few pro are crazy good with him, but I don't see enough pro play him well enough that he is in almost every game I watch. Is this just mindless play at the top levels, or is there some objective reason that Kog gets put on every pro team?

 

Highest DPS, longest range, highest scaling, insane range pokes and snipes, and safe as hell with a good team.

The key part is "good team", which pros can usually get. The support and tanks will be peeling off enemies from Kog at insane rates compared to low Elo.

Kog's entire play is based on how well his support and tank cover him, since all Kog has to do to out-DPS any other carry is survive.

 

This is the part i'm not seeing. I'm watching the curse games right now, the older ones. I have no idea if i'll ever be able to watch them live.

 

Even if you don't have a great team with Kog'maw and you die in every team fight, you can still wreck the enemy's shit before they pounce on you and make them scatter because of the passive.

 

Fun Fact: In terms of raw DPS, if you land all abilities, Sivir actually does the most damage of any AD carry. She just has terrible range.

 

Fun Fact 1: No one cares about AOE DPS on a Ranged carry compared to their 1v1 damage and ability to wipe out a tank.

Fun Fact 2: That's also why you build Sivir like GP after you finish IE.

 

A graph of AD carry ranges seems relevant at this point (click for slightly bigger).

Sivir's range isn't listed on that graph (which should probably tell you something about how viable people consider her) but the wiki says it's 500, which is tied with Teemo, Twitch and Kog'Maw without Bio-Arcane Barrage up.

Sivir can still be scary though. Pair her up with someone like Taric who can hold a target still for a second and her Boomerang Blade > auto > Ricochet combo is a lot of burst to deal with in lane. For team fights she has heavy AoE damage, Spell Shield to help keep her safe and the attack speed aura from On The Hunt which is amazing with the right team comp.

 

That's strange. I could've sworn Sivir's range was 525, same as Kayle with her E up.

 

Nope. It was piss poor at 425 then increased to base 500.