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Gotham - Draw (Demon Mayor Wins)

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Vesvius, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Eternity Lost

    Eternity Lost Squib

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    What else are you going to vote on, the non-existant information that will reveal itself on day one?

    All you have are suspicions on day one and I personally feel that Zeitgeist is scum.

    KaiDASH is suspicious aswell Fen he's posted 9 times and has yet to add anyhting of value to the thread.

    You shouldn't trust anyone in this game CB.

    So anyone got anything to say. All discussion is good.
     
  2. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Well, lynching randomly in HoT directly contributed to killing the Mother of Dragons, so it's not always a bad idea. Then again, that was Kai's plan and he was scum, so perhaps we should be looking at the bandwagon starter rather than the target.

    Still, it's a 48 hour day so there's plenty of time. I'm going to pimp my gathering information shtick again, so let's give some other people a chance to fuck up before bandwagoning.

    Also, I find it interesting that there is no Judge analogue in this game. The closest is Two-Face, who has to sacrifice himself to commit someone, but he's scum.
     
  3. Alindrome

    Alindrome A bigger, darker mark DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    That wasn't random lynching. I'd targeted him last night, and he survived. We targeted him because he had a huge chance to be scum.

    Why do people keep getting their knickers in twists about 'following Kai'? It was a sensible course of action - didn't everyone agree on that at the time?

    Non-existent information on day one? Come on now, every day is a goldmine of information. Like your posts, for one. So we gather as much as possible while we can, and lynch intelligently. Randomly lynching is as bad as not lynching; the more discussion we get the better it is for town.
     
  4. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Its not so much that it wasn't a sensible action as it was the fact that everyone seemed content to blindly follow whatever he told them to.

    This is what I've been trying to say exactly.
     
  5. Alindrome

    Alindrome A bigger, darker mark DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    We weren't blindly following. Or, it didn't seem like the town was blindly following him to me at the time (bearing in mind I knew he was scum for sure at the time thanks to priest check result). Personally I thought it was a sound plan for town, and since it was the obvious action, there wasn't much dissent about it.
     
  6. Sacrifice

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    Vote Player: Jon

    Subject to change when he becomes less power-hungry.
     
  7. Another Empty Frame

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    Welp Sacrifice, you just said you want to commit the mayor to the insane asylum

    Rescind Vote

    Vote Player: Sacrifice


    Reason: he sees Jon isn't one of the sewer dwelling scum like him, and wants to unsettle us by hard-charging against him

    Like Minion in SW1 except he was good and misguided and thoughtful.
     
  8. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Only because I was dead already. It was horrible idea at the latest when Krogan roleclaimed and no one contradicted him, and when Kai started to propose a plan that boiled down to "lynch more townpeople so that we can use the mislynch check/kill afterwards" you should have lynched him instead. I was raging in my QT.
     
  9. Sacrifice

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    For your info, we are ALL in the asylum.

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 AM ----------

    besides, you being so over-protective of Jon makes me suspicious of you, Commander Bond.
     
  10. Kensington

    Kensington Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    Kai and Zeit are always suspicious.

    That said, neither of them are the true threat. Much like Richard Wilkins the I/II/III, he speaks with a civil tongue, aspires to be mayor, and undoubtedly plans to commit/kill all of us in the name of power. I'm speaking of Jon.

    Vote Player: Jon

    He's just too damn dangerous to let live.
     
  11. Another Empty Frame

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    Great point, but until he takes a super hot slayer under his wing, I'm not too worried.

    Sacrifice,you knew what I meant.
     
  12. Aekiel

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    I was referring to Krogan having been found out as the sellsword taking away the obvious fakeclaim for the Mother, aside from Mountain of course.

    Agreed.
     
  13. KaiDASH

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    Well it was definitely a good plan for town imo (and it was varying degrees of good for my scum depending on what roles Krogan/Fiat had), and Krogan was almost definitely going to be lynched anyway seeing as 6 people (myself included) voted for him in the 11 posts after daystart, Zeit's queen reveal later on aside (although from the few QT's I've read it seems nobody actually thought he was the queen - Go figure).

    I went over this when it happened - Krogan had a 75% chance to be scum, and if he was scum the ONLY roleclaim he could possibly make is the Sellsword. If I was Sellsword I would NOT have counterclaimed him (and it's definitely -ev town to do so in any case) there because once claimed as the Sellsword you're never going to get nightkilled, so you're just sitting around waiting for the MoD to eat you. It's doubly bad too because the main power Sellsword has is to draw nightkills away from more important roles, so by counterclaiming here you're making your power mostly useless.

    I don't think this is terribly relevant to the game at hand for most people (although I'd argue that knowing how people think is always relevant), but I'd be happy to talk about this with you in PM or on IRC with you if you want to.

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 AM ----------

    double post:

    claimed as the Sellsword with an active +life
     
  14. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Vote Tally Thus Far

    Zeitgeist: 1
    Eternity Lost

    Sacrifice: 1
    Commander Bond (Ollie K)

    Jon: 2
    Kensington, Sacrifice

    Not Voted Yet: 26
    1and1is3, Aekiel, Ashaya, Dead, Fenraelis, guljons, Irene, Jon, Jwlk, KaiDASH, Kalas, Kang, klackerz, Krogan, mishie, Nae'blis, Necrule Paen, Palindrome, Republic21, Riley Poole, Scrib, Sesc, Silens Cursor, Vira, Yeagen, Zeitgeist

    There are 30 Players remaining, so 16 votes are required for a majority.

    27 hours remaining in Day 1.
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2011
  15. Sacrifice

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    Correction: I voted for Jon.

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 AM ----------

    and Commander voted against me.
     
  16. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Edited. Missed the newest votes.
     
  17. Alindrome

    Alindrome A bigger, darker mark DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I feel very tempted to vote for Eternity Lost, but I feel stopped by not knowing what to think about the newer batch of players.

    They're really rather tricky to gauge as players. Maybe it's because we don't have much of an idea of what they're like outside of the game thread, or maybe it's because they don't always fit into how I'd usually expect people to post on DLP, but they often seem more scummy than they perhaps ought to to me.

    So I guess they confuse me. I feel more inclined to lynch them, and more cautious about it too. Not sure how to proceed regarding them.
     
  18. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    Drome, I actually get a different read from you about Eternity Lost. I think that while he is misguided about voting so early (And really, we only have 26ish hours left) this shows a sign of inexperience rather than, say real scumminess.

    Now drawing the attention to Zeit...

    Having played quite a few games with you, this is one of the first times I'm seeing you being so extremely aggressive/defensive on the first day *without much provocation*. While Drome is right to say that you are almost always this bitter and this is no scum-tell, but there's something off about your sentence. You're flying off the handle way too fast even for a player freshly scorned in HoT. No offense.

    " My role in Gotham is pro-town and sucks balls: there's too much pressure on me to deliver." <--- What stood out to me. The sentence was just off. Like... part of it is false. If your role is pro-town and sucks balls, why would there for you to have pressure to deliver? A) The game has many mutiple pro-town characters, and there's not really ONE role where all the pressure is placed on. b) If it sucks balls, I'll take it to mean, it's useless/passive, because you seem to like active roles (Vigilante, scum, yadda)

    Hence, I'm forced to conclude that only the latter part is true, that there is too much pressure on you to deliver. Which leaves room for a few power roles like Batman or Scum.

    So I'm sorry Zeit, even though I convinced you to join this game, you are standing out way too scummy to me right now. I think I'll have to side with Eternity Lost.

    Vote Player: Zeitgeist
     
  19. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Interesting, Sacrifice, Kensington.

    A nonsensical reason and an exclamation of being too 'dangerous'. Too dangerous for who exactly? Your scummy non law-abiding ass?

    For the record Sacrifice, carrying over grudges from previous games is pretty retarded.
     
  20. Sacrifice

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    and for your info, power-hungry Jon, I do not carry grudges from previous games.

    So my reason may be nonsensical, and obviously doesn't prove anything, but oh look, I spot someone over-supportive of you, and you yourself might very well be SCUM.

    Suggesting I was acting based on Fate/Nightkill is a retarded thought by itself.


    out of topic post-script: Oh yes, I am still alive there, why won't you attack me
     
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