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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Methene, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. Boo

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    He could be trying to improve his potions skills to help him in his travels. Give people love potion to get people to do what he wants. Veritaserum would be way out of his league, plus i dont think he could get the ingredients.

    Fleur catchs him and helps him. They would have to test the potions to make sure they work.
     
  2. Augurey

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    Why are people missing that it's a detector of love potions? It's not a love potion, nor is it a counter.
     
  3. Perspicacity

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    Why make it a potion at all?

    I think a plausible scenario is as follows: Harry could stumble across (or be reading up on, for any of a number of reasons) love potions and notice a similarity between some of the signs/symptoms and what he's been experiencing--think strawberry kisses in Bungle in the Jungle.

    He doesn't trust Ginny (or any of the Weasleys) or Hermione, since he doesn't know who is dosing him. He discretely speaks with Fleur and asks if she knows a way to detect if someone is under the influence of a love potion. She of course does, since she's one of the best charms students of her generation and dosing one another with love potions is standard practice at Beauxbatons--"Ze charm, eet ees first year material, 'Arry. 'ere, let me show you..."

    She does the charm and, lo and behold, Harry is found to be under the influence of amortotia or somesuch. She has Harry do the charm on her to ensure that he's learned it correctly. In so doing, they discover that she also is being dosed by a love potion. Drama ensues.
     
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  4. Boo

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    What would be the point of a love potion detector? I could see the use for some one in Law enforcement or something, but Harry wouldnt really have a reason.


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  5. Perspicacity

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    Perhaps he doesn't know or trust anyone else? Especially if he's stuck at the Weasleys polishing turds (or whatever they do to smarten the place up for a wedding). He could just ask in the abstract if she knows a charm that can detect presence of love potions and she does, demonstrating by casting it on him.

    All I'm saying is that the charm thing seems less contrived than figuring out how Harry's going to go about brewing some weird potion. The scenario I described could play out in 5 minutes.
     
  6. Vesvius

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    Well, I've been planning on it. Got a basic outline and a few pages done. Then, well, the events I've decided to call the 'Reasons I's Like To Maim Customer Support' happened. Basically, my PC got fried twice in a month, and I lost everything. Twice. I'm on a far inferior computer right now while mine gets looked at.

    I just haven't had the motivation to redo what I'd done before. But it will happen eventually.
     
  7. Alcibiades

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    About the detector: When I think of detector, I don't really think about a potion that would need to be ingested. The term itself hint at something more concrete, more physical. Or at least I think so, like a foeglass.

    If the author really want to use the detector plot device, maybe it should be something like: the potion is only the first part of the device, the second part would be coating/soaking an object (whatever object...doesn't need to be special does it?) with the potion. I'd imagine the object vibrating or having a substantial reaction to the close proximity of drugged individuals.
    Or, on a more specific note, the polar effect with the close proximity of two ingredients; a ion destabilization. Maybe.
    Who's to say that physics cannot have anything to do with magic.

    An external source for the detector would be easier to write about than trying to find a reason why Fleur and Harry would both try a potion, especially if it goes with the idea that Harry was brewing it with the purpose of aiding Ron.

    The detector/counter doesn't need to be this uber super potion that resolve everything in one shot.
    And about the physical aspect of the potion, nothing indicate in cannon that potion cannot have an effect like that on the physical world, outside the cauldron; Think polyjuice, or better yet, Sneakoscope!
    Throw in a charm factor and you have a perfectly normal little invention, nothing too shiny. It could even be something the Weasley twins could be making themselves to sell along along their love-potion (is that cannon or fannon?). Aren't they selling all the antidote and all for their product?


    As for the trust factor between the two (h/f), it shouldn't be that easy.
    We should remember that they were both drugged by people they thought were family or as close to it, for Harry, and by someone she'd long thought she loved, for Fleur.
    I could see them getting away for a few days, then coming back together before/or after Harry goes on his guest.
    Really, Fleur and Harry have so few things in common that it's hard to find a reason why they should suddenly want to stay together to brave the evil house of Weasley!

    Sarcasm aside, another event further along the plot line, bringing them close by again, would greatly aid to form a more realistic bond for the two future lovebirds.

    Maybe a fuck-friend relationship while the war goes on would be of better taste? A relationship that help develop some king of friendship, changing to more?
    That should alleviate the weight of the romance if it is ever needed to be pushed to the side.

    Edit.
    Although, now it would be a challenge to found out why Fleur suddenly decided to fuck punyHarry. Even more so if the story isn't NC-17. Can't be a miraculous transformation to sexgod-Potter.
     
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  8. Vincent V

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    Been a long time since I've posted here, but what the hell.

    All of the Harry/Fleur fics have inspired me to attempt one of my own, and since this was the first good plot bunny that I ran across in this thread - and one that interested me - I've decided to attempt to write it.

    I began to write it tonight, and got about a thousand words written, but I doubt that I'll have that much time to write in upcoming weeks. I'll try though.

    But first I'd like to discuss somethings about the plot of the story.

    Firstly, the start of the story. The scene that I have written consists of Dumbledore's interaction with Fudge about the pen-pal program as well as interaction with Maxime and to an extent Karkaroff. I plan to add the end of the train scene up to Dumbledore's speech (which will of course include the announcement of the program) and then the students reactions to the news of the program, and finally the students seeing the list of pen-pals.

    My question to you for chapter one is, 'is there anything that you feel I should add/remove from this chapter?'

    For the next chapter or few should I have these consist solely of letters between Harry and Fleur or should I include interaction between Harry and his friends as they discuss their letters. I can see benefits in either direction. On one hand if they were to consist solely of letters it would enable me to get on with the fourth year as soon as possible, but the other way gives it a more real life feel but also lengthens the time before fourth year.

    My final question is about a villain. Should I include a villain other than Voldemort or should I allow the tournament and Voldemort's eventual rise to be the main protagonist?

    Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, and I will try to work as fast - and as well - as possible on getting the story out and completed.
     
  9. Aerin

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    First of all, some conflict would be good.

    Should Fleur happen to include a picture of herself and Ron/ Hermione/ Dean/ Seamus/ etc sees it, could incite jealousy.

    But why would Dumbledore start up a pen-pal program? What are his hidden machinations?

    Is it to build better ties with allies for when Voldemort arises, give Harry a stabilising ground, to rip him away from his "friends" so he feels more alone and angry?
     
  10. Tidus86p

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    From my point of view if Snape had just killed Dumbles I'd test myself for any potion on my system, instead of a specific type of concoction.Also because Snape was part of the order Fleur decides to take it too. Thus finding the traces of a love potion and answering your question about his motivations without resorting to using a mere coincidence to explain It, something many authors tend to dislike.What do you people think?
     
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  11. vlad

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    “ ‘Allo, ‘Arry, are you here?”

    “I’m in here,” a disembodied voice responded from the next room. “I’ll be right out Fleur.”

    With a sigh, Harry pulled off his dragon hide gloves and with a final glance at the bubbling potion, hurried out of the room.

    “Ah, there you are.” Fleur responded, sounding slightly breathless as she fell gracefully onto the warn settee. “Zis wedding, honestly, it is a bit much!”

    Harry frowned, sitting down awkwardly next to the fatigued witch and hesitantly put an arm around her shoulders, a shiver running through his body when she let out a small sigh and cuddled into his embrace.

    “May I be frank with you ‘Arry? Vraiment, I love William, but recently…”

    “I’m sure it’s just nerves Fleur, err… wedding day jitters?”

    She giggled, an adorable sound coming from her lips, and Harry tried hard to look away. He can resist her aura, but it’s not just magic that fuels her beauty. And he is a teenage male.

    Peutetre, peutetre pas. But enough about me. Why do you spend every hour in this dreadful house, and these murky cellars? Surely you would be happier at the Burrow? And then we could talk without sitting in the dirt, non?”

    Harry’s expression instantly sobered. “It’s…complicated. Hermione and I had a rough year, and with Ginny and Ron…I’m not really sure how welcome I’d be.” Seeing her pout, he’s tempted to maintain the angst, but thinks better of it. With a rueful grin, he continues. “Anyway, I’m catching up with my potions – Slughorn really straightened me out last year.

    That of course, was nothing short of a steaming pile of bollocks. Still, The Prince – Snape – had done wonders for his education, and he wasn’t about to admit to anyone, least of all Fleur, the roundabout methods to his education, especially when the greasy git was involved.

    Fleur nodded, looking him over again before a frown fell across her features. “That smell, I would recognize it anywhere, you are not brewing Amorentia?”

    What?” Harry demanded, a horrified expression crossing his face. “Of course not! No I’m…” Harry paused, obviously embarrassed, turning a shade of red reminiscent of his muggle uncle. “I thought it might be a good idea to make a coercion detection potion. Its base is Amorentia, but really, that’s it.”

    Silence followed. Finally, Fleur snickered, an action that quickly became full blown laughter. Harry gave a weak smile, obviously not sharing the sudden joke.

    “It is so typical. Honestly, L’Anglaise. Why you feel you must have a charm or potion many times more complicated than the rest of us is beyond me. Really ‘Arry, there is a charm to do just that. It is simple enough for a first year at Beauxbatons. Alors, regardes-moi.”

    With an elegant flourish, Fleur withdrew her wand, its tip hovering an inch from her heart. In one fluid motion, she twirled it outwards in a lazy corkscrew, before slashing upwards. The…prominence of her breasts in this little dance was far to distracting, and Harry would have been unable to recall what incantation her mouth had uttered if his life depended on it.

    When he did return his attention to her face, she appeared far more dangerous. Her lips formed a tight frown, confusion and anger bubbling beneath the surface of a now stony expression. “Je comprend pas. My wand, it shines red, non? But that simply cannot be. ‘Arry…”

    All attempts to communicate the betrayal she felt towards her beloved were cut off by a blinding light, and as her mind clouded, she faintly heard a panicked voice shout Obliviate.

    “Fleur, wake up…it’s time to head back.” Groggily, the French veela opens her eyes, blinking away the fog as she awakens. “You need to head back Fleur, they’ll be expecting you... And just so you know, if you do decide to push the wedding back a few more weeks, I’ll stand by you. You need to know what you truly want.”

    Ah?...uh, oui…yes, yes.” Fleur replied stupidly. Shaking her head, she sat up, realizing she has been lying in Harry’s lap. ‘No wonder he blushes so much...’

    Not a moment after she had left Grimmauld Place, Harry let out a weary sigh. “Dobby!” he shouted, and instantly the elf appeared. “If you ever forget the aroma charms again, I’ll castrate you personally – is that understood?” As the trembling elf whimpers, Harry nods, temporarily satisfied. “Good, now make me a sandwich.”
     
  12. Boo

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    Looks like a great start, or was that it?

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    Who Obliviated who?

    Did Harry obliviate Fleur? Or someone else obliviate them both?

    Or am i just asking dumb questions.
     
  13. Drake

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    Good prologue, and I loved the sandwich comment. Your take of the story seems to be going well, and I wouldn't mind seeing further additions to it.
     
  14. vlad

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    That was it. Boo, Harry obliviated Fleur, Harry has been dousing Fleur with Amorentia, and potions that detect love potions was nothing more than spur of the moment bullshit.

    The line about the sandwich was swiped from the Foxpaw fic, which is in the writer's section and made of win.
     
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  15. Drake

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    So if he is dousing Fleur with Amorentia, why is she marrying Bill and not making Harry a sandwich?
     
  16. Boo

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    Looks like he is doing it a little at a time.

    Making it look more natural, rather than

    "I love you Bill" Two hours later "I'm sorry Bill i love Harry"
     
  17. Rin

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    I would definitely throw in intereactions with Harry's friends. I also wanted Harry to have an impartial voice of reason during his third year that helps him get through it and make wiser decisions. Things like "if what you're saying is true, then they just don't add up . . ." Also, someone to confide in. People have a lot easier confiding in a semi-anonymous person on the other end of a sheet of paper than they sometimes have confiding in a best friend - espeically when the issue is ABOUT that friend.

    I personally, would not recommend trading any pictures. The whole point of the idea was to get Fleur to get to know Harry as a person, and not a "leetle boy", and for Harry to get to know Fleur and not some sexy babe.

    As for conflict, you would have the backdrop of 3rd year's stuff, and fourth year's stuff as well. Harry could send and recieve letters with Fleur during the summer as well.

    Well, I might have come up with the idea, but all in all it's your story, so write it how you please.
     
  18. Vincent V

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    Not much conflict I would be able to throw in as a result of a few letters. I agree with you on not including the picture, as that seems sort of a cheap way to get Ron angry at Harry, but Fleur is already going to know who he is anyway. His fame by itself will make it difficult for her to get to know him at first.

    However, with the increased work ethic provided by floor, Harry and Ron would sort of fall apart during third year, and that would set up the conflict in fourth year.

    Aerin: Pen-pal program would be set up to help with international bonding before the tournament.

    Thanks for the ideas.
     
  19. vlad

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    A possible angle is that Fleur of course knows who Harry is, and uses her own influence from her side to guarantee that she is paired up with the boy-who-lived. Improving Harry's work ethic, etc. could in fact have the ulterior motive of Fleur trying to essentially create a powerful potential husband.
     
  20. Boo

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    It would be good if she didnt know his surname and she thought he was her age. Meanwhile he gives some advise based on his hard life.
    When she finally gets to Hogwarts she meets Harry face to face. She realizes that he isn't a leetle boy,he doesn't live the rich and famous life everyone believes, and that he would enter himself in the tournament.
     
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