Hey, you're right! Never even considered biological triggers...hmm...

You'd have to think up a backstory for Lily, a bit o' heritage and such.

The Veela matriarchs would be interesting to write, I'm sure. Imagine, beauty so great as to bring men to their knees, and auras so crushing you feel anything other than total worship would be to commit a heinous sin.

Another point, Incubi haven't been seen in centuries. Women have no resistance factor against them. Men have plenty, Veela all around, you know, but the female species immunity against their charm has been totally demolished by just too much inactivity.

You'd have to really show the women around Harry just simply completely losing control. Some of the men at the World Cup were practically killing themselves to gain attention, even though there did happen to be a lot of testoterone and male rivalry floating around.

Harry is the Boy-Who-Lived, one of the finest catches ever to walk Hogwart's halls. Incubi's auras are much more powerful than that of the Veela, who, like I said, are diminished from years of diluting the blood.

I'm talking assassinations, posionings. Harry's going to be the thing they want more than anything else in the world, like a drug they haven't had yet, but know will pleasure them beyond anything they ever had before. Women will stop at nothing to gain his favor.

Me? I'm not sure I could pull that off.

And you've got to favor in the other malign forces, like vampires, werewolves. They are powerful magical creatures partially integrated into human society as well. They'll be after Harry too, just to keep Veela at the bottom of the power totem pole.

Please. Please, someone take this up, because if you don't, this plot bunny will grab me by the testes and force me to do it, and I'll probably fuck it all up.

 

I have an idea for how something like this might work, with veela agent!Lily and experiment!Harry. I will probably take some ideas from Daakathrince of Darkness and an Incubi!Harry story whose name I can't remember on ficwad.

If I get started on this, I'll have to wait till Monday when my school library opens and I can use the computer for several hours.

Can anyone recommend a title for this story idea? I have 'Black Wings Do Battle in the Night', but that feels like it would be ripping off Gargoyles. My idea for this kind of fic would be that at the ceremony at the end of the Tournament, Harry's 'old blood' was awakened by the abundance of Dark Magic and Harry 'evolved', and became more than human.

But the problem is that Voldemort used Harry's blood, so Harry's dark gifts are now his as well. Voldemort also looks quite human, a dark reflection of the Boy-Who-Lived. But the playing field would be evened out for both of them as the transformation of Harry and the Dark Lord has left them both with shitty magical control. Voldemort has more experience and spell knowledge, but he has to build back up his spell strength and skill, which after 12+ years is quite off.

I'm kind of envisioning Harry changing mentally due to the change. I am thinking a young Kain or Raziel from LoK kind of bent to this. Harry would focus on spells and magical power, but he would dive deep into his new capabilities as an incubus. Voldemort would be magical primarily and decide not to use these odd abilities out of arrogance, as he is a wizard, not some inhuman beast.

Returning from the graveyard, Harry would say that the Cup was a portkey and a trap by dark wizards. He would NOT say Voldemort rose again. At the most, Harry would say that there were supporters of Voldemort present looking to perform some dark ritual using the BWL as a sacrifice. Dumbledore would suspect something more, but Legilimency into Harry's mind would be difficult. For some reason, gaining traction on the boy's thoughts is now a problem.

As far as the Dursleys, cliche...cliche...cliche. I would go the route of they were not rabid magic hating animals, but they did stick Harry in a cupboard under the stairs. Petunia should have grown the fuck up. Now she will suffer for it. The Dementors may eat one fat bastard named Dudley. In this case, the Dementors were sent because Harry publicly said there were Dark Arts practitioners when Fudge wants the public to be happy little mushrooms.

Harry will have to repay Fudge for that.

And that's all I'll spoil for now. If I use cliches, I'll use them well.

Thoughts?

 

Sounds like an interesting story idea, Dethklok.

Just a couple thoughts: I like Harry devoting his summer to developing his Incubus powers. It gives him something to do other than emo over Cedric. Also, flashes of even a bit of his eventual Incubus power--e.g., conjuration of flame, innate Incubus facility with the mental arts (power to enthrall females and intimidate males)--could be sufficient to dominate Vernon and Dudley. Petunia is easy: just enthrall her.

It sounds like you're taking a dramatic turn from canon with Harry's not sharing the Voldemort return. That would have to be justified somehow. One thought that might be worth exploring would be that the Incubus blood in Voldemort would make him an inferior demon and that during the Priori Incantatem dome, Harry recognized him as an inferior and merely exerted his will to shatter Voldemort's will and capture some of his power for himself. Harry realizes that, as a superior demon, he should be able to subjugate Voldemort entirely and turn Voldemort into a minion. Since it will be some months before Voldemort recovers, Harry has time to strengthen himself further. (It could even be an instinctive matter on the part of the Incubus to avoid culling the weaker demons when there is a chance to subjugate them instead).

There's no real reason to even have a Dementor attack, frankly, since you're already well beyond canon. This Harry wouldn't have aroused suspicion from Fudge.

 

You're thinking of Tales of an Incubus. Which is a Harry/Bellatrix story.

As for saying people who studied dark arts there. Why doesn't he just not say anything as soon as he gets back. Be able to think of a convoluted story while in the hospital wing.

You could have his powers activate during the maze portion of the event and him feel a connection to Fleur due to their similar powers. He saves her and the last thing she sees before getting knocked out is Harry helping her. Blah blah blah she wakes up later and goes to visit later in the Hospital Wing and feels that same connection. Over the summer they keep on thinking about each other and blah blah blah...

Voila not insta-love but a deep curiosity about each other. Eventual dating and blah blah blah. Story that isn't fail is created.

 

Tales of an Incubus, Fury of the Hellspawn.

Maybe go with the experiment Harry theme. The dark project or something like that. I'm sure you get the idea.

You could explain this away by saying the blood reacted badly and V had to lay low and use no magic for a while. Or you could make it that the blood is the 'Power he knows not' by doing some crazy shit.

This could be bad, it would look too much like superHarry. Make Harry disorientated and he doesn't remember anything to well. Maybe Harry thought that Voldemort was a copy cat killer. Could make for some interesting ideas. Going this way, the ministry could try and stop the killer and send too few people to take him out and due to that, the amount of aurors could be halved or quartered making the ministry weak and Voldemort could take it out easily.

This would be if you were going for a dark story though.

You could make some interesting ideas with the Dementors. The dementors could be very dangerous to Incubi and maybe they're the reason that there are no Incubi.

Sounds good but you should be a bit more creative. Make the ministry a bit smarter then they are in canon. It's boring hearing the same 'Ministry gets crushed scene over and over again.

 

Okay, so we've established that it'll be around the fourth year, somewhere around Tournament time.

Okay, idea. Voldemort is ressurected, but instead of doing that whole dramatic monologue thing, he starts writhing in pain, because his tainted, dark-ritual-fucked-up blood is under attack by the Incubus blood he took from Harry.

Harry manages to get away a bit easier, considering Voldemort basically has the pain equivalent of lava in his veins, and runs quick quick and retrieves the Goblet. Cedric's body stays, because there's no ghost to tell him to pick it up.

Then, he gets the whole thing, big crowd of people, 'Where's Cedric?' and 'Voldemort's back!? Great Merlin's ghost!' and he gets sent to the Infirmary.

Madam Pomfrey is unusually helpful. Not total lose-control level yet; The aura and power is building up, like a train, until it reaches full speed. He listens to the speech, goes home, and that's when it really hits full power.

He notices the Dursley's odd behavior (IE Vernon and Dudley scared shitless, Aunt Petunia obeying everying he says like a royal command) and that's where we start to do whatever the fuck we want.

Want him Dark? Manipulate relatives.

Aunt Petunia becomes practically paranoid over the summer, protecting him like a priceless treasure, doesn't want him to leave, etc, etc, and that's when Harry realizes shit has happened.

Or, Harry goes to town, and the women simply won't leave him alone (NOT in a good way. Catfights, stalkers, such). He writes Dumbledore OR Sirius, asks for a way to get them to leave him alone.

My nuts are in the proverbial plot bunny's hold, so I'm going to be starting it soon, just as soon as I get enough feedback and backbone to abandon my previous Harry Potter fics.

So, rejoice! A Harry/Fleur fic is due.

EDIT

Is there a scale or anything for how many posts it takes me to get out of Muggledom? Somewhere on the site? Can someone help me here please?

 

Just had some new thoughts to iron things out for my idea.

During Voldemort's resurrection, using Harry's blood, initially Voldemort looks human, and practically identical to Harry Potter, albeit with a darker bent. But what then happens is that Voldemort starts having adverse reactions to the ritual, and using Harry's blood maybe was not the best idea.

The assembled Death Eaters and Harry watch as the Dark Lord transmigrates from a human form into a larger and more powerful verson of Harry's incubi form. Where Harry's alternate form is strong, but primarily fast and light, playing to Harry's strengths, the Dark Lord's form is powerful, but slow and can stand up to heavy spellfire.

My idea is that Harry was born an incubi, while Voldemort knew nothing about Harry's less than human heritage. All the rituals and other spooky shit Voldemort did to himself, such as the horcruxes and other odds and ends disrupted the delicate balance needed for an incubi to be viable and be able to propagate a new line of incubi. A precise human/demonic entity ratio was needed. Harry has that, he was born for that, and Voldemort doesn't.

So what happens is that Voldemort is changed. His new form looks like a more demonic version of Goliath from Gargoyles, with a tail. Voldemort can use demonic powers and abilities, such as accessing Hellfire and other abilities, but he can't use human magic ever again. He transmigrated and became some kind of...artificial demon, in a sense. The chaotic demon aspect took precedence and altered the Dark Lord significantly. While he can use demon magics, human magics are subtle and under the radar. Voldemort can no longer apparate, make portkeys, or do anything related to human magic beyond the most destructive and power intensive curses and Dark Arts. Finding any information about demon magics or demonic artifacts would be the new goal of the DEs.

This idea would also be a problem for Harry as well. Being part demon, some of the subtle magics would not work well for him. He could never fight like Dumbledore in a duel, using Transfiguration like a master, but heavy combat spells and Dark Arts would work fine. He could still use the entire magical spectrum for daily life, but in combat, he would have to get down and dirty with his demonic abilities and the Dark Arts.

Thoughts?

 

Hmm...that seems too much like a insant zap Super!Harry fic. FYI, thirty seconds ago, I just deleted all three of my crappy HP fics. I'm still shaking with the exhiliration.

Since it seems like we both are determined to sink our teeth into this idea, we need to divvy it up into parts, so it's not two dudes doing the same fic.

So, dibs on the Incubi name, Dark Lily, and Veela matriarchs. Your move.

 

Deleting fics is pretty weak--see the last couple hundred posts of the Knowledge is Power thread.

 

I know, it's bad, but I did it for mostly a personal, psychological reason.

'switching to hippie mode'

Come on, m~an, they were all like, the shackles that chained me to my, like author mediocracy, and now I fly free, like a graceful phoenix. Now, where's my fuckin' weed?

'disengaging'

Sometimes, I just gotta do what I gotta do. And those fics SUCKED, trust me.

 

While you may true that your stories suck I still liked them

Ontopic: This plot bunny has the makings of epic win don't disappoint me

 

In that case, I'll make Harry some half human/half demon experiment. The demons from beyond the gate are looking to return to Earth, or at least establish a foothold on Earth.

Thus they create an artificial human carrying dormant demonic traits they are looking to establish in the Wizarding population. That artificial human was Lily Evans, who never thought she was anything more than an ordinary, if powerful witch.

The resurrection ritual establishes a connection to their plane of existence, and the demons, eager after all these years to see how their project turned out, activate Harry and his powers. They are interested in what has happened, as Voldemort has become a new variable to their project. The demons then activate Voldemort....but they change him. Give him the greater advantage of higher level demonic powers and strength. but virtually no human magic.

The demons are interested in playing both sides against the middle. Who is more worthy to begin their noble work? The less powerful, but resourceful and smart Harry Potter, or the far stronger Dark Lord, whose vast magical knowledge is virtually worthless in a body that cannot perform it?


Thoughts?

 

Thank you, Torak...I am grateful for your support in times so dire...'takes a deep breath'...my hands are shaking...that can't a good thing.

'slams hands onto table.'

'hands subsequently stop twitching.'

Okay. OkAAAYY....I can do this...epic win...he...hehhehehehe

EDIT

Right, in that case, this will be my story.

Dark Lily enthralls James in order to experiment with strong magical male, in order to produce Incubi. Project stops in motion when Lily becomes connected to Harry when he's born, and she sacrifices herself in actual maternal love to save him.

Fast forward, Tournament, roped to Old Tommy's dad's tombstone. That's where we start off. I mentioned the elements I'm adding earlier, so I'm going to start brainstorming now. Suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

I received a communication once from a fellow author on DLP (whom I won't call out, since it was a private communication) who addressed the matter eloquently:

I don't think I can add anything except to encourage you to restore the fics and put a note on your author page explaining why they have new story ID.

[Edit: Dibs don't exist. Write the best story irrespective of whether someone else is doing something similar.]

 

Right, well, heh, funny thing is, wrote'em online, so they're completely gone. Kaput.

And you're completely right. Dibs do not exist. Thank you.

As you suggest, I shall start caring less about opinions. I've had mostly that opinion, and I actually, really believe those stories were weighing me down. Psychologically, I mean.

If you think that's bullshit, then, well, guess what? I don't care about that opinion. See, I'm learning.

So, any suggestions for a good fic name? Anyone?

 

Pers and the others are wise, but there's nothing quite as deeply satisfying as deleting stuff that sucks. Even better when there's no one around to protest.

I best like the idea of Harry's contact with dark magic sparking some old blood. Somewhere along the Potter family tree, someone went dark, and magical blood is slow to thin.

In "Only Enemies", rituals were hereditary, and I've scribbled a few chapters into a story not posted yet with the idea that Harry can close a significant portion of the gap separating him from Voldemort with the use of dark-natured rituals - but would not only taint him, but his children for generations.

I'd like to incorporate the incubus aspect, but not James and Lily being cultists, if you don't mind. Harry performs a mildly dark ritual - the proverbial toe dipped into the lake - and is blindsided by wings tearing their way out and shit.

 

Dude...that sounds completely and totally awesome. D'ya think I should find another name, or do we both use the term incubus?

And THANK YOU! Finally, someone who can appreciate the deep satisfaction of popping a boil that's been festering too long on the side of the left arse cheek of my inspiration.

You'd have to work out the mechanics of Dark Magic in your universe. Can it warp your very nature, or does it affect your 'aura' so to speak, like some write?

So, the toe is like the proverbial pebble that holds back the avalanche. Very cool. Do it. Spread the word of Harry/Fleur far and wide.

 

No it's fine. I'll just use some generic demon thing. I don't feel up to writing romance or Fleur, so there's no point in me using an incubus.

 

I've decided that I'm going to quit DLP. Vash, you win, I guess.

 

I'm rather fond of the idea of the curse scar anchoring a demon to harry's soul via voldemort myself.... could even go with dark!dumbles there, and say he invoked it during harry's missing 24 hour period or something.
Said demon torments H with V's evil, and V with H's love (power he knows not etc). Could be an interesting pseudo-plot bunny.