Well, I think that to people who aren't huge fans of James Bond, seeing the connections between the stories and stuff are a lot more difficult through the movies because they're not even linear by way of time.

This would be a rather linear telling of how they pick up different skills, and we'll probably work out an overarching plot, rather conspiracy like.

That being said, it takes quite a bit of skill to write it and a lot of planning time for it to not be cliche or just plain bad.

edit: 50k words is the general estimate - I'm sure some of the segments will be done in 20-30 thousand, while the beginnings might be closer to 60 or 75.

 

I dunno if Lungs agrees with me, but the original discussion kind of stemmed from how Fleur could easily be a "Black Widow" kind of character; killing men and stealing their wealth. I would like to write her as a sociopath; a female Patrick Bateman.

Have her slowly become a serial killer than can't control her tendencies and have the final thing that Harry is tasked with is to end her.

And for me, that'd be the end of the story. Harry giving up his emotions, namely his love for Fleur, and doing what had to be done. And then he's a vaguely similar version to the Craig!Bond: ruthless.

 

I kind of would like a happy ending, but knowing the people that are already gathered, the chances of that... not very good.

I'm sure we'll find Fleur her own Reichenbach Falls to tumble off of.

 

I think everyone's a little high on Tonks. She's used so often for so many different things I wouldn't like to see her as part of this group of 7, there's really no mystery.

Lisa Turpin, Katie Bell, Alicia Spinnet, Anthony Goldstein, Sally-Anne Perks, Hannah Abbott, Astoria Greengrass, Hestia Jones, Emily Vance etc. All make better candidates than the common Luna, Tonks, Ginny, Hermione combo.

 

The Patil sisters, they have the twin thing too, which could be a thing.

 

Personally, I think everyone's a little high on Harry. He's used so often for so many different things I wouldn't like to see him as part of this group of 7.

 

Why a James Bond crossover? I only ask because when I saw James Bond mentioned my mind went to Archer, and now, I really want to read an HP/Archer crossover. On a slightly more on topic point:

I got the impression that they were seen as inferior to Hogwarts. My impression was they wanted to show up Hogwarts and prove they were as good as them especially if it meant beating Dumbledore as well. It's a small point, but it was something I noticed.

 

Crossovers and works that are inspired by are not the same thing.

In other news, while the idea of turning Fleur into some of the fanon I've seen for Blaise's mother is appealing, I too would like a happy ending, but at the same time, having Harry slowly turn into Daniel Craig's Bond would be incredible as well. Slowly, he's justifying it to himself that this is what has to be done.

To use a fanon cliche, we could cite "The Greater Good" for why Dumbledore did the things he did, and why Harry is now as well.

While I hate to see this become even more of a discussion about crossovers, the opening scene of Casino Royale, the one that was filmed entirely in black and white, was a powerful scene. It hooked the viewer, because we're watching James Bond, who not a few years ago would never have gotten his hands so dirty (Pierce Brosnon). What I'm driving at, here, is perhaps you could follow a similar formula? Start with a scene that takes place further on down the road, display the brutality that Harry is capable of, then jump back to the beginning?

 

I see your point, all I'm saying is that you really have to work to pull off a great Tonks, and even then I feel as though she's been played out. If this was 2 or 3 years ago then she'd be perfect, but today, and maybe I'm alone in this, I'd like to see a different female character pop up. JBern had some interesting ideas w/ Hestia in that time travel fic he was going to write and she's stuck out as a character who could be used. There's so many female characters in HP and it seems as though a lot of authors find 2 or 3 and always focus on them.

 

One character that would amuse me as the 7th would be Umbridge. How you could make it happen I'm not sure. Maybe make her Dumbledore's mole in the ministry.

 

No, they aren't, but I kind of thought that this was more than just inspired by James Bond. I just didn't see a reason to mention James Bond at all if it was just inspiration. You could just as easily say that you intend to write a spy fic and leave it at that. I didn't think it would be a crossover in the usual sense of someone going to a different universe or it following a Bond film or book plot only with minor adjustments and magic involved, but I figured it would go beyond being a fic that was merely inspired by Bond.

 

The reason it was mentioned was because we were talking about Lung's fic, Fractal, and we somehow got to talking that Fleur was pretty much a Bond Girl. And that spawned the whole idea of the fic.

 

I'm not sure how many Bond movies you've seen, but "Bond girl" normally signifies a pretty woman who gets fucked once then left behind. It's got nothing to do with intelligence, skill, or spying ability. I really have no idea why you think that Fleur is anything like a Bond girl.

 

I think, and this is especially true after Casino Royale, that Vesper Lynd is what the majority of Bond fans call the true "Bond girl". She was intelligent, beautiful, and had James tricked up until the very end. That would be the route I'd go with a James Bond-esque HP story, especially involving Fleur, who already has a Bond girl name.

Characters I would use:

You need a Q. Aberforth (or Flitwick, Slughorn)
You need an M. McGonagall.
You need a Moneypenny. Ginny.
Fleur as the love interest.

Any other characters would be bad guys, good guys, or irrelevant.

 

The whole thing about Bond is that he rarely has people he works on the job with. You get the odd time where he meets another 00 Agent/rescues them (thinking earlier Connery stuff, and Goldeneye with Brosnan) but for the most part, he's in the field alone.

If you were going to make the Horcrux hunt a group thing, I believe that could work, but I think the latter half would have to split the group, with someone being the Q and M for the whole group, then the rest of them having separate storylines.

 

You'd think that, if a group of 7 or 8 talented wizards could match what Dumbledore did, then he wouldn't have been able to do it in the first place.

 

That's part of the fun of the story, Taure... what Dumbledore had taken 100+ years to accomplish as the greatest wizard of the age, now has to be done by a group of people who aren't prepared for it. Difficulty makes the story, IMO, and the beauty of it is that it is extremely hard to duplicate what Dumbledore does easily.

If it was me writing the story, I'd tone down the James Bond-iness for all but a few characters. Fleur shouldn't be piggy-back riding Harry through every scene, and there should be at least a few kick ass fights with Harry by himself requiring gizmos gifted by the Q character, and Harry receiving information and guidance from the M character.

Also keep in mind that Harry from canon is awful with females, where as James almost always gets the girl. Some transition between teenage angst and adult badassery should inevitably take place.

 

If it's going to be a true Bond inspired fic, there has to be the suitably epic one liners.

 

"Everybody needs a hobby," said Harry.

"What's yours?"

"Resurrection."