Just adding my two knuts. Wait, it was Sirius that chose Peter, wasn't it? Nvm, disregard my last post.

 

The only real James hating fanfics that Shabranigdo approves of are the ones where Harry oes back in time and has actual interaction with James, proving him to be an arrogant bastard. One such example is Dark Order Series: The eginning by Blade-Claven.

Ah, must go. Darkstar is calling a meeting. Be afraid, mortals, for your fate is being decided.

 

shit. all of you have good points for either hating james or snape. i just hate both of them. snape for holding in petty grudges and james is for being a bullying cocky bastard. and besides people always tell harry how he looks so much like his father that it probebly inflated his ego. i mean for fucks sake, the kid never even met his parents at all and since living with his aunt and uncle he should be a bad ass with a calculating mind. oh and lets not forget our dear uncle vernen. the fat tard calls harry FREAK on a regular bases. i'm still wondering why in the world harry in canon always gets so damn angry and explodes whenever snape insults him in anyway. for crying out loud harry should've got used to the insults before he was even 5. What really pisses me off even worse is that JKR really fucked it up in many things she wrote.

 

I can't say I hate James. Nor do I like him. Mainly because all I have is that one scene. And if James was truly an evil git then why the heck would Lily marry him. Point of the matter is we have no idea what his actual character is like. So I don’t mind fics that portray him as good or evil as long as the author puts some effort into showing his character as such. I hate fics that have Harry hate James based on that one scene.

That said I don’t see Harry suddenly admiring Snape either. Snape is an evil git! He sure as well acts like one in the book. And too may authors make half ass attempts to make Harry like him. They can’t stand each other. I hate him because he is portrayed as an evil git. And Harry suddenly feeling sorry for the greasy bastard because James used to bully him. HELLO!! What the hell has Snape been doing since year one? That’s bullying too you know.

I can understand why Harry gets angry in the book when his parents are insulted. Nobody has told him what they were like. All he has is this idealization of what they were. And each insult to them was an axe against the glorified ideas he had of them. Nobody like to have their illusions shattered. Its human nature.

 

Signed and cosigned

I hate Current!Snape, but Student!Snape is fine, I think James is what pushed him to be the asshole we all know him to be.

The only time I've seen this at all, since I don't read Severitus, are time travel fics where he actually meets him. I'm sure if I met a cocky showoff like James I'd hate him too...

 

Unfortunately, 95% of all TimeTravel fics to the Marauder Era make Harry Snape's pet shit-stabber. He gets sorted into Slytherin, and from there he guides Snape through the tumultuous times that being a Death Eater brings.

Of course, this 95% is written by 13 year old fan girls who can't decide between Alan Rickman and Daneil Radcliffe as to who they think is better looking. So, the dirty whores neglect us straight men, and instead write these gloriously shitty slash fics.

There's one of them...uh, the summary at FFNet is something like:
"I was Harry Potter, i was Lord Voldemort, I was Jonathan Frost"

It sucks. Don't read it. Harry not only gets disfigured by having the Dark Mark on half his body and face, but he gets blasted through time to play mother hen/ass pirate to one slimy Severus Snape. Of course, from the first chapter, one has the direst hope in their mind that the slash will be inconsequential, and that Harry will actually be powerful.

No dice...

Shit...i'd rather read stained future.

Now, as i said before...how can one scene entirely change your opinion on James? Until OotP, i'm sure you thought of James as a good, kind-hearted man, but one fucking scene, and you bust nuts everywhere?

(Err...i don't mean David9 specifically, just all Snape lovers)

I would think that the fact that Snape calls Lily a mudblood, belittles Hermione, bullys Harry, kills Dumbles, helps Narcissa and Bellatrix etc etc etc is reason enough to hate him.

People go on and on about how many times Snape has saved Harry's life. Please, do me a favor and count those times. He did it once, in first year dring the issue with the Nimbus 2000 fucking up. That's it.

James, on the other hand, bullied Snape once in canon. So i really don't understand why people hate him that much. Hell, he took on Voldemort alone so that his family could make an attempt at safety. He spent a shitload of time to become an Animagus, as his werewolf friend would be less worn out if he had company. He's a good guy...and he's cool for another reason:

He took his time dying, even with the killing curse. Apparently, he got hit with it first, but in 4th year, he comes out of the wand before Lily does.

Tough guy.

 

Well, if you read slash you get what you deserve uke:

As for James/Snape, well I thought it was pretty obvious from the flashbacks that it wasn't a one time occurence, that James did it alot to Snape just because they hated each other... But it also put James as pompous, ruffling his hair to look "cool" and showing off with the snitch, while Snape came off as being the poor kid who gets bullied by the jock.

 

Ugh, I know that story you're talking about Yaargh. I had thought it was going to be somewhat decent when I read it, what with Harry apparently going back in time to be Voldemort or something twisted like that.

You couldn't have put it better, that he becomes Snapes pet shit-stabber. He spends the whole time mooning over snapey and being a total wuss and deflecting Lily, whom if he half a brain would give up his crusade for Snape's chocolate and sample what Lily wants to give him. The whole things one big dissapointment.

On the subject of Jame's... I never really like him and don't care if Harry now hates him because of the penseive deal. He was a bully, showoff, popular clique, arrogant... basically all the thing's Harry doesn't want to be and tries to avoid. Interesting thought about James living after dead like that... he must have been so possesive over Lily that he wouldn't leave untill he knew she would follow.

 

Haha...yeah. I can see that happening:

"Lily! Noooooooo! Let me wait a bit. It's an insult to my libido if you outlive me, bitch."

I dunno, though...i don't particularly care about James. He's dead form the very beginning, so it's not like he's a major character. I don't respect him for exactly the same reasons, that he's a show off and a bit of a prick.

On the other hand, i don't hate him. As i said, he's practically inconsequential to the story. Snape, on the other hand, i cannot stand.

The whole 'i'm a greasy bat' thing gets on my nerves. I've seen Snapes in fanonf that can be liked, but still, to me he is a character who deserves a messy death in all Independant!Harry stories.

He's just as much of a bully as you could possibly think James is. What i mean to say is that i doubt James would pick on Snape for no reason at all. That's why i like stories where Sirius leaves a letter saying that James and them only picked on Snape because he was a dark wizard, that he'd raped a Hufflepuff earlier that day, or whatever.

As for the jock thing...i dunno. There's tons of Quidditch players in Hogwarts, a minimum of 28 of them (4 teams, 7 players), and i've yet to see any jock-like characters.

James is just a popular guy, and he has a problem with Snape. What i hate is how people forget that Snape was perfectly at home when he cast a cutting hex at James' back when he had turned around.

Snape lovers entirely ignore the fact that he terrifies and belittles people apparently to get a kick out of it.

 

all of you have good replys. james doesn't matter at all because he doesn't exist in the book. snape well...many of you guys have good points about him.

 

JAMES/SNAPE?! *vomits*

The very idea disgust Lord Shabranigdo. He is a firm enemy of slash, though He bears no ill will to those who read it.

Yes, He has seen many fics that say in respione to Severitus Challenge. He generally try to avoid those. Most of the time, Snape is OOC. While He likes those Snapes better, it gets cliche fast.

Also, anyoen who writes Harry/Snape has some serious issues to work out. Unless it's a sort of Sex Slave (THrough Magical or Physical means), Rape, or Molestation, it is EXTREMELY OOC.

Be Grateful Mortals. Darkstar still has a purpose for you. As such, I must spare your lives for now.

 

WTF is the deal with the third-person, man? How old are you?

And that whole business with Darkstar wanting us mortals. It's odd as hell to read in a post.

Are you seriously saying that the only Harry/Snape fics worth reading are the ones that involve rape/molestation?

Christ. They ALL suck. No exceptions, at all. None whatsoever.

 

I once saw a james/snape/malfoy...i'm still scared from that. STOP THE THIRD PEROSN THING.

 

Here we go again. As I've said in all other formus, I repent all previous posts as far as the tone and 3rd person goes. Sorry if I got anoying. I was tryong to be funny.

James/Snape/Mafoy?! *Wretches* uke:

Ughhh. I'm gonna be sick...

 

don't worry. your funny to me. for some reason i never get tired of it.

 

No, I'm not saying you should read Harry/Snape rape/molestation fics. I'm just saying that there's no way it would happen in canon unless in those scenarios, and even then it's a stretch. The closest thing I will read to that is Snape as a father figure, and only of EXTREMELY well written.

 

Yeah, welll I fonally realized I can be funny without 3rd person or God-like tone. Still, no harm done. I think. No one listened to my evil ranting, right? So if someone takes over the world, it's not my fault, right?

 

*snigger*

You know having you type normally is like finding that the loud menecing voice is actually a short guy in a pink suit....

Ehum...

Anyway I stay away from Slash in all it's glorious forms. For Harry to like Snape it would take a lot of effort... not some third rate drivel writen by horny pre-teens with too much time on their hands.

 

Well, actually, in te anime show Slayers. Shabranigdo is defeated by Lina Inverse. True, he only had one sixth oof his power, but still, beaten by a mortal. The shame! Lol.

Yeah, being a guy, I REALLY don't like slash.


P.S. I DO NOT WEAR PINK SUIT. It's actually a lovely shade of lavender. :lol: