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Complete Harry Potter and The Halcyon Phantasmagoria by PhantasmagoricBlade - M

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by e1, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. mbond98

    mbond98 Seventh Year

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    I also gave him a link. <_<
     
  2. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Use the enter key more. It's 4 AM here, and it looks like one huge blurb of letters to me. AFAIK = As far as I know.

    Now, then. Keep in mind that a) it is you writing the story, so you have to decide in the end, and b) no one of us can look into your head to see what you have planned.

    The mist thing. I didn't think anything, actually. I thought Aura surrounding them -- like a mist -- cool. Probably too tired to think deeper.

    I'd hold your train of thought right here. Never ever go deciding things like that in the way of 'okay, so what cool/awesome/epic gimmick can I give Harry'. Never do things just because.

    The question is, what do you need him to be, for your plot to work? Does he even have to have a form? Where would it be useful? How can you use it, plotwise? That should be the first questions.


    More like that -- not because of the missing avian form per se, but because you list a reason for him to have it.

    So, question right back:

    Are there more than one Male Veela at a time? If not, that argument obviously doesn't work. If there is always just one, I'd say he doesn't need anything at all, other than what he has now; espcially as the normal Veelas can't use magic, if I remember right.

    If they are more powerful than I realise here (point b) from above) and don't have his best interests at heart, you'll have to decide what he needs to have, to eventually equal them (and not wtfpwn like 500 Veelas in one minute fight-time flat, because he's so uber!powerful.) That should be your guide, in that case.


    Edit:
    Yeah, Belra was faster. I was essentially saying the same. However,
    this. I agree, but it really depends in which direction you want to take your story. In general: ten more women for Harry doesn't make the story ten times better. Instead, you have to work ten times as hard for it stay as good as it was before you added them. Just a caution.
     
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  3. PhantasmagoricBlade

    PhantasmagoricBlade Backtraced

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    Goodness, no! This will not be a harem. I'm not going to vent my sexual frustration by writing some shoddy piece of smut, like other teenagers such as myself. There's porn for a reason, after all.

    As for the second form, yes, I do plan on using it. Hmm...I have an idea. It's not too powerful, don't worry.How does extreme fire resistance and slight demonic senses sound? Like, you know increased hearing, smell, some pretty long (sharp, not feminine) nails...that sounds like something a magical creature would look like. Not even extra strength or reflexes.I'm going to flesh it out. Cover me.

    His skin began to coat black, until his whole body seemed covered in a light onyx sheen. The skin shone, like a polished gem. His hands clenched as the nails lengthened and thickened rapidly, until his fingers ended in short, thick black spikes unrecognizable from the fingers. And his filmed over crimson, unti it was only two malevolent blood red orbs remained in his narrowed sockets.

    Howwazzat? If it's good, then I'm going to go run and get a cookie. If it's bad, then don't sugercoat it. Tell me exactly where I fucked up.
     
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  4. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    You want mechanical pointers or for us to poke at the idea to see if it ain't dead? Stylistically, I'm partial to active voice with high impact use of modifiers laced with a bit of symbolism. (But then many would argue that my stuff is overwritten tripe--take my pointers with a grain of salt). For instance:

    His skin darkened to an oily sheen of liquid onyx as talons, thick and black, speared from his fingertips. His green irises, his Mum's gentle eyes, began to burn with a hellish cerise that expanded, consuming the whites. The demon blinked once, twice, his twin blood orbs glowing with malevolence.

    I've only skimmed some of what wrote, so I can't comment on how well the idea fits in the context of your story. (I'll leave that to others). Regrding DLP, be smart, don't take it personally if folks criticize, and you'll do fine here. Welcome aboard.
     
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    Glad to be aboard. Mind if I completely and utterly steal that line you just improved significantly from my slop?

    As for the don't take things too hard thing, well, acknowledged, Order Member man. Will keep in mind. Over and out.

    And mechanical pointers, for sure. Now, I'm off to an all nighter with the Harry/Fleur Community thread. I need to catch up here.
     
  6. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Take whatever works for you. I'm sure it can be improved--I just threw it down sort of quickly to illustrate what I was talking about.

    Glad to see another author taking up the Harry/Fleur mantle.

    [Edit: Heh. Didn't realize my title changed today. 400 posts must be a roll-over point.]
     
  7. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    Oh Pica-city, you get a coupon to shop at Hell's duty free store for that. But I forgive you for you do not know what you do.

    Stop posting, go write something for me to read. :whipped:
     
  8. LogrusMage

    LogrusMage Supreme Mugwump

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    Why is this in the bin? Four stars, an epic almost-rape scene for lulz, a badass but believable Harry, and a Male Veela Harry/Fleer story that promises to not turn into a harem fic?

    What more can we ask for? Even the writing is pretty damn good. Only the slightly comedic flavor of the girl teams is a problem, and even then, the darker overtownes of the whole "holy shit there here to kill me thing" is cool.

    4.5/5 for now.
     
  9. PhantasmagoricBlade

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    Wow...that's the first honestly full rating I've got since this was posted. I'm flattered you think my writing is pretty damn good, when I myself think it only barely satisfactory.

    Thank you, sir.

    It's in the bin, I think, because this is the first Harry Potter fic I've ever written, so it's obvious there's room for improvement. I acknowledge and accept that and strive to do better because of it.
     
  10. Sesc

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    ... nope. It's in the bin, because by the time it was moved from For Review, it had something like 3.46. The borderline is 3.5, everything rated higher gets into the library, everything lower into the bin, usually.

    One of the mods will move it, eventually. 's got nothing to do with being your first HP-fic (well not directly, you get what I mean).
     
  11. PhantasmagoricBlade

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    No, no, I get what you're saying. I know you're actively avoiding crushing it, or at least that's what it feels like to me. I appreciate that, but I know my fic is not epic quality.

    I'm just saying, if I'm doing borderline on my very first HP fic, that's pretty good, right?


    "Very first HP fic..." Lol. I've been rereading this thread, and I just had to call bullshit on that one. Nice try though, Sin of Existance.
     
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  12. Perspicacity

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    First fics are pretty hard to get just right since you're figuring out so much stuff on the way. I know I made tons of mistakes with mine, things I wouldn't do now. This is pretty common: if you look at the first stories of any of the giants in fanfiction, you'll see "rough around the edges" aspects that are absent from their more polished, later work.

    The most important thing, in my opinion, is to finish that first longer story. It'll establish you as one of the uncommon authors in fanfiction capable of running novels through to completion and it'll give you more confidence for larger creative leaps in the future. Keep in mind that one average, completed story is worth ten epic starts.

    And for the love of Moe, no matter how much you become disenchanted with your evolutionary work, please don't pull a SerpantSannin/Sin of Existance and delete your first stories. That's the fast-track to losing friends and alienating people.

    @nuhuh: Working on it. :) I worked on my WiP today and will get some more writing in tonight. Yesterday I submitted a longish (~17k words) one-shot, a bit of a dark H/G/Daphne romantic comedy, for a competition. (It was a pretty lame challenge; basically I turned it on its ear with the piece). I'm not sure if I'll post the latter though; while it has some decent scenes, the story as a whole doesn't work as well as I'd hoped.
     
  13. Nuhuh

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    I am game to check it out, or just read for my own pleasure. :)

    Plus I thought somewhere in there you promised me previews of your WIP...yes, yes, I am sure of it!
     
  14. PhantasmagoricBlade

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    I know what you're saying. I've really taken it into consideration. I've been thinking too much of an epic, ground-breaking work. I've bitten off more than I can chew, so to speak.

    I've revised some of my more ambitious goals for the fic. Thanks for the tip.

    'Salutes' Heil, Mein Fuhrer! Onwards to the fourth chapter!
     
  15. Sorrows

    Sorrows Queen of the Flamingos Moderator

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    Hush boy write moar, we wish to see what happens next.

    The writing is fairly solid, and the idea is workable. I think this will manage to drag itself out of the recycling bin if you carry it on with the same quality chapters, still there is room for improvement.
     
  16. PhantasmagoricBlade

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    I HAVE.

    Read and behold

    <http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4488479/4/Harry_Potter_and_the_Halcyon_Phantasmagoria>

    Now, who thinks I should post this in Work by Authors? I could use a good bash to my grammar, style, and all-together author-ly testicles, now that I consider it.
     
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    Mistake, perhaps?
     
  18. PhantasmagoricBlade

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    Um...'sweats nervously'...no?
    It IS the un-beta-d version, after all. I'll put in that he retrieved it in the beta-d version.
     
  19. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    The last two updates have brought this story closer to library worthiness, I think. Yet another faction is after Harry's blood - this time literally. The incubus physiology is intriguing, and PhantasmagoricBlade surprised me with what he did with the incubus fire. Wonderful and well-imagined effect.

    The world is fleshed out more too, given a sense of organization. I look forward to seeing expansion on that front. One of my qualms is that this Dumbledore only resembles his canon counterpart in dialogue only. His actual actions just seem off.

    Otherwise, the story has successfully weaned me off my desire to read more Secret of the Male Veela, and it didn't even need smut to do it.
     
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    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    It updated: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4488479/9/Harry_Potter_and_the_Halcyon_Phantasmagoria

    It's still pretty hot off the press, I was too interested in getting it to PhantasmagoricBlade to beta it too thoroughly, and PhantasmagoricBlade almost immediately posted chapter nine, so it might have rough spots.

    The plot moved back into the fifth year at Hogwarts, but it doesn't feel too much like canon. The author proved that he is capable of subtlety.

    When Umbridge asks Harry about what could threaten them, Harry of course doesn't see the bait when he says Voldemort, but neither does the Voice of the incubus, who only encourages him. So the incubus side of him has shortcomings.

    When Harry reaction to being called a liar involves veela fire, Umbridge uses that as ammunition in trying to get Harry expelled when she confronts Dumbledore, but unlike in canon, she is motivated not just by the goals of the Ministry, but fear. It shows the difference between the canonical Harry and this Harry.

    The continuing development of the incubus is also interesting, now that Harry has a competitor in the form of the Voice thing. I consider that probably the strongest aspect of the story. None of the male veela stories have an exploration of their nature and power, which is handled excellently here. Most of those - including Secret of the Male Veela, are depthless with only a shallow two-step procedure A: Attract women. B: Sex women up.

    One of the better stories that are currently ongoing. It is actually updated consistently, barring this last (but still sizeable at 9,000 words) chapter which was due to a computer problem according to PB.
     
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