I liked it. I don't know if I would like it if I read it again, but it had some cool ideas, it was long, and it was well-written. The whole 13th floor fidelius was pretty cool, and so was the idea that the souls from the destroyed dementors came back. Overall, I thought it was a good story and I liked the way he characterized Harry. It probably wasn't the first story ever to have an independent-thinking Harry, but it is the first one I can remember that had a believable training program with the time turner and didn't rush through a lot of things. True, it has a lot of clichés, but when I first read it they weren't clichés to me, so I liked it.

As for the H/G thing, it was pretty light, but then again I don't hate Ginny as much as most of you guys do. My problem isn't necessarily with Ginny, it's with the idea that she's Harry's soul mate. Frankly, if Harry wants to tap that ass a couple times, I have no problem with that. Just don't put her on a pedestal.

You can't make a ho a housewife.

-the Jack

 

Ross was in Iraq for a while and didn't have time to work on this fic, but he promised recently on his group that he was working on it again and that he'd finish it.

He's a bit of a fetishist for detail, he admits himself. Some descriptions are a bit boring, but on the whole it's a good thing. As far as I know, most of the clichés are indeed his ideas. Even if they weren't, he did the trunk and the Dementor-killing Patronus best so far.

Ceterum censeo: You guys need to cool down about the Ginny thing.

To the person who called her a whore cause she has had a few boyfriends: Wanna meet a martial-arts trained feminist?

 

You have to see it from JKR's point of view. In OOTP, Harry, Hermione and Ron are completely innocent, haven't even kissed yet. All other characters are romance-less, except Cho, who's pining after her old boyfriend for a year before movin on. Ginny on the other hand, is a year or more younger than them all, and she's switching boyfriends every few months. Not to mention that she was planning to esnare Harry since she was 5 years old...

So, by JKR standards of dating, Ginny is a cheap, dirty slut par excellance....

 

she is definetely a slut. i don't see the point in discussing this issue. it is 100% true.

 

Do you have Jo's word for it. I doubt that very much.

She's 15 in HBP and is dating her 2nd and third guy in that year. That's normal teenage behaviour. I dunno how things are where you live, but I get the feeling folks here have a moral or religious problem with teenage relationships as they are today in countries like Britain.

 

Yeah, that's normal in real life. But in RL, you have kids who have one-nighters from the age of 14.

Face it, there's no person in HP canon who's dating around more than Ginny. Thus, she's a slut compared to other kids' standards.

 

We're all going to keep believing what we want to about Ginny. And referring to her in a way to annoy Ginny-fans and stir up support among the masses of Ginny-haters. I don't think anyone created in JKR's world in JKR's opinion will be classifiable as a slut/whore/sloppy-seconds-spread-eagle-knob-gobbling-come-dumpster sort of character. Just like I don't think anyone created in JKR's world will be raping their own daughters (see how I swung that back on topic?).

As for this fic, it's not the first independent!Harry fic (frankly in my opinion this doesn't even count as independent!Harry), but this is the banner one. The one everyone knows and references. The one most all others are compared to. The one copied and borrowed from more than just about any other. Do I think it's overrated? Of course. This fic, and the author Ross, get an obscene amount of attention for just another seemingly abandoned WIP. He's put in a ton of detail, and writes a better than average story. But he's included enough of the key elements, the key ships, the dark moments and the fluffy moments to basically appeal to the largest audience possible. Do I enjoy the fic? Yup. Will I read more if he ever puts out more? Yup. Do I think he will ever finish this series? Nope. Maybe he'll finish this fic, but he's set this up as a trilogy on a massive scale, and whether it's burnout or just complications, I find it hard to imagine him finding the time, desire, impetus, to write the rest. We've had a number of promises for updates left unfulfilled now and it's been what... over 15 months now?

Meh... it'd be nice. Cut out any opinions of the author, inexplicable hatred for fluffy quidditch massages with two-bit whores, the most annoying and ungrateful fanbase I've ever seen, and all of the overexposure, and you're still left with a better than average fic. No matter how many times the ideas have been copied, there still never been this much detail on them. For god's sake it's what most consider independent!Harry, and we're over 370K words into the first fic of a trilogy? There's not a whole lot to compare to that.

Then again, it's probably length like this that make me prefer 50-70K word complete fics. Excessively detailed WIPs are a dime a dozen. Finished fics deserve respect and attention far more.

 

Yeah, Ross' update rate is frustrating. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time around, if he really was in Iraq. Maybe something happened to seriously put his mind off fanfiction.

I can accept it if authors have really slow update rates, if the story is worth it. Not everybody's got the same writing technique. And a couple of authors write fanfiction while at the same time working on some original stuff. It's not a paid job, so you have to accept that everyone's doing it at their own pace, imo. And slow but worthwhile updates are better than the mass-production of bullshit someone calling himself Dr_T does on fictionalley.

btw: I don't take the Ginny-bashing on this site too seriously. It's just too exaggerated. But I guess I might respond with suggesting someone's prudish or immature whenever I'm being called a ginslut-supporter. Until I get banned, I suppose. In that case, here's my ready-made farewell message: Thanx for the reading suggestions and all that. But you lot don't deserve me.

 

I doubt you'll be banned for having an opinion. It's just some people take their hatred of Ginny over the top and take it out on the nearest target, and considering you actually like Ginny most of the
time it'll be you. But I have the feeling you'll hold your own.

On topic: Read the story it's...meh. Seems a little dated now.

 

i admit, against my ideals, that i enjoyed this story. It is the 3rd hp story i read, and as such i loved it. everything seemed so originial then... (nostalgic sigh)

 

i will give him the benift of the doubt being gone for 15 months while in iraq is a valid excuse.but he should have some written out while he was gone.

 

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The first time I read this story, it was awesome. I was slowly beginning to see the light (Ginny is a whore, Ron and Hermione are complete losers, etc.), so this was new and refreshing. The second time, it was great. The ideas were now a little dated, but it was still a good story. Now, it is just an above-average Post-OotP pseudo-Indy!Harry story.

Bottom line, this story has been borrowed from, plagairized (sp?) and overused way too much to be original. Maybe when it was first written it was an excellent story, but now it's just like every other one out there. But still, kudos to Ross for bringing all of this stuff into the mainstream.

 

I think its a pretty good story despite all the clichés, but they do make it somewhat annoying. Meh, what can you do...?

btw, i know that they weren't cliches when rosswrock wrote it, but theyre still pretty annoying anyway

 

Could someone please explain to me what's the point of this: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2963114/1/

It's like Hagrid telling POT... is this the whole point or what?

 

What it is, is very highly annoying to read, I barely made it past the 1st sentence.

 

I remember reading this years ago and thinking the scene with Hedwig getting hit with the reducto curse was one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

Other then that, I thought this was an average sixth year fic with some better then average ideas.

 

That's what I'm asking. Some sort of gang slang or what?

 

Must be some sort of code that the Nazis in the world are still using!


Seriously, I have no idea, To me it just sounds like piss poor english.

 

Urg, why anyone would want to use Hagrid-Speech (as I like to call it) to write a story is completely above my head. Not only that, but like most people the author manages to do it badly.

On PoT, it truly didn't seem so clichéd when I first read it. At that time, however, the clichés of today where new and original concepts. PoT, if anything, is the reason that so many of today's independent!Harry clichés are considered just that.

Nowadays I find it hard to read. Had Ross been able to keep to some sort of schedule (and I'm not blaming him if he had reasons, I myself know what it's like when you lose interest in a project) I would probably be more interested in this story. As it stands at the moment, though, I will most likely read the new chapters if he ever releases them. I won't, however, be reading them with any anticipation.