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Abandoned Harry Potter: Knowledge is Power by SerpentSannin - M

Discussion in 'General Fics' started by dragaan, Jan 21, 2008.

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  1. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Mediocrity, thy name is Harry Potter: Knowledge is Power.
     
  2. Jamven

    Jamven Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    There is something about "Lily" & "jam sessions" mention in the same fic that makes me wince.
     
  3. Joschneide

    Joschneide Groundskeeper

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    Averis = Win

    It's not a total pile of shit. But it also doesn't do the premise very much justice. While I don't mind OC's (most usually in crossover fics) I do mind developing OC's instead of developing the plenty of canon characters that are readily available and can be interesting to read since so few were fleshed out by J.K.R. In fact, I'd go so far as to say Harry's two best friends could easily be written in placing the characterizations of his OC's with a known character, if to only give a different slant on one of the many background characters in HP fandom.

    2/5 because I think it'll ruin Harry/Fleur ships.
     
  4. Testament

    Testament Seventh Year

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    Yep, the only "jam sessions" with Lily should be the kind that make Vash proud, and the rest of us reading in morbid fascination.
     
  5. Aerin

    Aerin Seventh Year

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    Wouldn't a Jam session be more Legato than Vash?

    *Ponders*
     
  6. Jamven

    Jamven Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I was thinking of dirty, smelly, drug crazed hippies. The thought that Lily could ever be on of those, it is blasphemy I tell you, blasphemy.

    There is nothing "morbid" about my fascination with Vash's writings. :D
     
  7. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Yes there is.

    There's just nothing wrong with it, either :cool:
     
  8. Hobbes

    Hobbes First Year

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    I was very disappointed with this story when I read it on the OTHER THREAD.

    2/5 It just didnt have anything that grabbed me. The smmary gestured for me to take a read, the actual story lulled me to sleep.
     
  9. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    You know, instead of wailing about how different the story is, you should consider how different the author took this fic. I like it. 5/5 because for various reasons.

    The jam thing with his mother, thats understandable. For everything that he did, there is a reason, no matter how minor. The characters develop along the way and friendship strengthen along the way. Don't piss on his fic if you havn't fully read the fic.

    And of all the reviews here, Averis is the most dissapointing. Seriously, i hope for your sake, don't review again until you fully read the fic. It's people like you who piss me off the most.
     
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  10. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I don't see how anyone can give this 5/5. 5 stars is reserved for the very best of fan fiction - the cream of the crop, perfect in every way: stylistically, grammatically, with a well thought-out and interesting plot, good characterisation, originality, a detailed expanded world, a suitable level of realism and pacing. There are very few fan fictions worthy of this rating.

    For anyone to claim that this story is 5 star material beggars belief.
     
  11. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Maybe they give it a 5/5 because of the bias votes of 1/5 by people who only read peoples comments before bashing the story.

    Last time the story was up here, I read the first chapter before bashing the story because of Harry's Hippie behavior, but I believe the author quickly realized the error of his ways and quickly changed that directions. Every chapter, it continues to go into the direction that I was hoping for from the start.

    If I was to vote this story, I would probably vote 3.5/5 barely enough to get into the library, but I may vote 5/5 just to veto those who vote low rating based on other reviews.

    though the 5/5 votes have already made the average about 3.4, so I'll post likely vote 3 or 4.

    This is hardly a masterpiece, but good enough to pass the time and I believe the end material will be much better than the start.

    I realize that this strongly contradicts my first post, but I have read past the first chapter now.
     
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  12. Krogan

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    This fic isnt as bad as some folks make it out to be but its nothing even resembling a 5. Even if you are doing it just to go against others it still doesnt deserve a 5. I could give this a 3 at best but no higher. Anything with guitarist Harry automatically gets points shaved off.
     
  13. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Lets see...Stylistically, grammatically...check. 1/5

    Interesting plot...2/5 check.

    Good characterisation...3/5 check - they are kids. acting like idiots is part of there nature. Not just that but the OCs develop along the way, creating and growing as each chapter is updated.

    Originality - 4/5 check. Don't you dare tell me this isn't original. You all know how hard it is to come up with something original and this is interesting to say the least. For some of you who says this fic is an epic fail, it has over 900 reviews, so that says it all.

    A detailed expanded world, a suitable level of realism and pacing. ...5/5

    For a detailed fic, it's interesting how this author brings about environment around Harry. In my opinion, this is the most paced and a level of realism i have ever had the pleasure of encountered unlike other fics.

    I have to admit, when i first read this fic when it first started, i was disgusted and immediatly left. But until a couple of days ago, i got so bored that i decided to read this fic. And my, my, was i suprised from what i read. After ignoring the annoying bits on the first chapter, it got quite interesting. As the chapter picks up, the fic really caught my attention.

    How about we make a bet Taura, if you read this fic to all it's chapter i'll read any fic you want. Including the most detailed graphic slash i've never had the unpleasure of reading.
     
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  14. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Obviously you have much lower standards than me. I would say that there are probably 20-30 stories in the whole of the HP fandom worthy of 5 stars. 5 stars to me means "of publishable quality".

    For instance: the style is adequate, but nothing amazing.

    The plot is interesting, but doesn't keep you gripped.

    Characterisation is just way off the mark. He's characterised 11-year-old children acting like 5-year-olds.

    Originality...there's not that much. The magic system seems to be the same system that's been used over and over again. The plot is a slight twist on a very old and commonly used idea. The wizarding world is pretty average too.

    I'll give that it has good pacing.

    Realism is low. Not only do the characters not act their ages - or in fact like real human beings - but motivations are unrealistic. Everything seems too contrived. As you said in your earlier post, everything has been given a reason for occurring.

    For example: "Harry likes to play the guitar because he wants to feel close to his mother". This is not how things happen in real life. People don't think of a justification to do something, and then do it. They simply do it, and often only after the act is the justification or motivation able to be seen.

    No bet is needed. I've read the first 5 chapters of the story. If the first 5 chapters of a story aren't good enough, then the story as a whole does not deserve my time. Simple as. I really hate it when people say, "this story is really good once you get past the really bad opening chapters". It's just another way of saying "this story is really bad". An opening makes or breaks a fic.

    As I said earlier, it's not terrible. I gave it 3/5. But it's not good either.
     
  15. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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    It seems some people have disagree with my giving this fic 5/5. Well all I can say is that I like this fic, And you cannot expect every story to be up the standard of work that comes from the authors on this forum. I think that this is one of those story's that people will either love or hate.
     
  16. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Wheather i do or not, it doesn't really matter. For one, trying to find a "of publishable quality" in fanfic is like trying to drink an expensive wine with your hands.

    Wait, exactly how does 11 year old suppose to act like? From what i've seen, they have been acting exactly what they are. Children. I don't know about you but it's perfectly fine in my opinion.

    Also, if you really don't like it that much, in the authors defense Archi is wierd. Harry is a genius, so obviously he is not going to act his age. And Zabini, she is acting out the way she is because of Archi's personality. Living with him, can obviously change a person.


    And yet, the author managed to actually make it more interesting. Because he captures the audiance enough to make it interesting.

    And your right. In real life they don't. Hell i'm the most unmotivated person you'll ever meet. Harry seems to be very disciplined in order to do something like this in my opinion.


    Your right again but really, there are such rare fics out there that are worth reading it's practically impossible to find. This fic however in my opinion is worth it to me. It's a fun read that captures the audiances attention and it's pretty fun to read the dialoge.

    And as headbanger22 said, it's either people love it or hate it.
     
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  17. Humbolt

    Humbolt Seventh Year

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    This fic is more of a way to pass the time for me. The author's Naruto story is much better, and he should work on that more. I'll give this fic a 3/5 because it's pretty interesting.
     
  18. Andro

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    I skipped to the last couple of chapters - I didn't skim, just ignored continuity and dived in, and it's not actually that bad.

    Only, the start is that bad. My guess is that the readers continued past the first chapter because of his Naruto story.

    The later chapters have improved, but the story still actually isn't original, the author makes more use of OCs than already existing characters.

    The original characters are annoying, but the author's making inroads in repetance. Archibald killed the freaking Basilisk but at least the author's equivalent to Hermione is revealed to be a bridge between Harry and Fleur.

    She transferred to Beauxbatons in an act of cowardice, and just so happens to be Fleur's roommate... So she had a purpose.

    Overall I say 2.5/5. Even if the later chapters are good, the terrible start still haunts and, as far as I as a reader am concerned, permanently impairs the rest of the story.

    Why can't Harry be a pianist for once? :(
     
  19. Anlun

    Anlun Denarii Host

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    I've read a fic where Harry is a pianist, and he's really gay. Imagine if Josh Grobin was Harry Potter and there you go.


    Anyway this fic is a guilty pleasure of mine. I wouldn't say its good, but I enjoy it, and follow it with mild interest. I like the characterization of the OCs (though I do agree he could of just fleshed out mentioned characters), I like the way he alters the plot of each book, and I like Harry's personality.

    Perhaps I'm only repressing all the bad aspects because I'm a big Hp/Fleur fan and I like RavenclawHarry, but I really didn't find this that bad.

    Yes the earring part was horrible ( I had my finger over the X at that point), The emo guitar playing was pointless, and Moony Nights sounds like the name of a Turkish Bath, but all these points (with the exception of the bath.. I mean inn) are barely mentioned later on.

    I would give it a 3.5/5. The .5 out of bias though.
     
  20. Jenkins

    Jenkins Forum Bike DLP Supporter

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    I must admit this fic has got me interested enough to earn a place in my favourites, but right now the only thing keeping me reading it is the comfort that the years are short. Though I do hope they last more than 5 chapters once 4th year comes.
     
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