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Harry/Tonks: Are we losing it?

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Shezza, Jul 12, 2006.

  1. Xanatos

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    You are a fucking tard.

    Please Die.
     
  2. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    This just may be something all of DLP can agree with.
     
  3. The Fine Balance

    The Fine Balance Headmaster

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    Who says you have to follow what she did? She messed many things up. Luna for one. Tonks another. Etc etc.

    Use the situations, inculcate the change. She has reasons to be "emotionally reeling", but she can also be mature enough to dive out of the funk. A fun, loving etc etc Tonks instead of the depressed person we see in HBP, is unlikely to change the plot one bit.

    Isn't that the one that starts like 95% of the Honks fics, then has him go to Potter Manor and all that rot?

    The best Honks, imo, so far have come in small packages.
     
  4. slasheh

    slasheh Seventh Year

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    actually it takes him to gryffindor Keep.
    Not that much better i guess, but it does have 2 good concepts i haven't seen before, one is an active Ghost of Godric who tries to mentor Harry, the other is a decently done manipulative Dumbledore, who isn't over the top evil.
     
  5. Karma

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    I think it takes a pretty special writer to get a good HONKS fic done. I've read a lot of the ones on ff.net. Most of them are pretty average, but I enjoy them because I'm usually easily pleased.

    My biggest problem with HONKS (and I love it as a ship enough to join a yahoo group for it) is that its like this: cut, print, sex. They move from a purely platonic relationship to freaky kitchen counter sex *is that Mrs. Robinson I hear in the background?* in the space of three chapters or so. Now, sometimes if fits the flow of the story, but most of the time I go, where did six plus months of relationship go?

    I've tried writing HONKS fics, I've got two, both unfinished and both crossovers. I'll be the first to admit that despite the stellar work from my pre readers, they're probably just scratching by average and that is no one's fault but mine.

    One other possible problem is partialy our own fault: we have so little canon material to base a HONKS off, that we usually have to make stuff up, create backstory that doesn't exist as deus ex machina (again, I'm guilty) and then we get lambasted by canon fascists.

    It isn't a perfect ship, its full of holes and its rickety, but I'd proudly sail it or fly its colours.
     
  6. Silent

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    There never has been much excellent Honks fic - the premise is fantastic, but she's basically a shapeshifting OC with a canon name. We know nearly nothing about her.

    Many fanfic authors have trouble if they don't have an established character to base a story off.

    Another reason there isn't much good Honks, perhaps, is the audience it appeals to. Though this isn't all of the fans, a lot of the pairing's fans are younger males who relate closely to Harry, and who would like to be in a relationship with an older woman.

    Because this is a fantasy, they don't know much about how it would occur realistically, and thus, aren't quite sure how to write it realistically.

    This isn't to say that I don't like Honks, though. If characters and plot are interesting, I love it. My favorite, though old and now discontinued, was either LizardLaugh's "Birthday Boy" or anything by eQuasarus. Ruskbyte's Flying Without a Broom is also worth mention, though it isn't Honksy yet.
     
  7. Karma

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    Thats a fair call. You're right, we've basically got nothing to go on in terms of who Tonks really is. We have plenty on who she presents herslef as, but not who she really is.

    Maybe that's why so many people like her character; she's got all the surface qualities most young men look for in a girlfriend but is essentially a blank slate.
     
  8. Marquis Le'quack

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    There are actually quite a few honks stories that do not fall under the Harry(1) Tonks(2) sub-headings at fanfic.net. Checking for Harry/Bellatrix, or Harry/Narcissa nets one some decent - albeit incomplete stories with honks as the main focus.

    Best example would be Overkill (although it currently is honks, it's going to end up as a black harem of a sorts with Harry masquerading as a reborn S. Slytherin.)

    All the current stories showing up on ff.net, aff.net or other sites are mostly crap. If you go to extremely specialised sites - such as individual yahoo!groups or author wells, there you might find reasonably well-adjusted honks stories. Problem there is the frequency of updates are rather low.

    Still it is frustrating - this continual entropy of quality.

    M Le'Quack
     
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  9. skooly

    skooly First Year

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    sorry I got worked up and didn't look before I posted.
     
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  10. BloodRedSword

    BloodRedSword High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Any fandom pairing which crossed a number of fan WILL become from COOL! to WTF!?

    In that aspect, you can expect that there is a lot of fangirls!(shudders!) who write what they picture themselves as and superimpose on the character, which make ridiculously stupid and unreadable.

    Not that we guys don't but somehow we have a firmer grip on reality then fantasy which most fangirls do. This is proving to be most aggravating.

    So yes, I agree that Honks! is losing it.
     
  11. Seratin

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    harry/tonks has been one of my favorite pairings but hbp really did suck the life out of her. where did JK come up with t/r? its almost as bad as h/g, why pair one of the most interesting characters in the series with a dry old fart?, i dont mind remus but him and tonks do not fit.
    on another note could anyone point me to some good h/t fics because i cant find that many............please?
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  12. Andro

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    I've read precious few good Harry/Tonks. One I tentatively list is BadVoodoo's Breaking the Bonds. The only ones I can say I liked with confidence are Apocalypso's and Mehetabelo's fic.

    That's quite enough, for me. If you think about it, how many good stories are in each pairing, particularly the more exotic ones? An exaggeration perhaps, but a exotic pairing is lucky to have a single good story written with it.
     
  13. Philly Homer

    Philly Homer What you call elephant cum I call mouthwash

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    Look at the name, it should be obvious.
    Apocalypso Harry/Tonks was one of the better ones out there. Then there was The Summer Of Change it turned out to be pretty good.

    Apocalypso is coming up with with another HONKS. It's called Death In Glory. Its a HP/300 Crossover. A Spartan raised Harry with Tonks makes me almost feel giddy with excitement.


    Homer
     
  14. Seratin

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    summer of change was pretty good, it really needs a sequel though. honestly though there are so many harry/whore and harry/hr fics out there that a really good honks or h/lilly fic would be nice. something over 75,000 words.......
     
  15. Niffler Lord

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    If you find one let us know. I've been slowly turned off Honks mainly because of bad authors but it seems like most Honks have fall into a runt now and it's getting harder to find stuff thats not using the same thing over and over.
     
  16. Seratin

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    will do. Does anybody know where i can find shezza's version of future remapped?
     
  17. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    His yahoo group. A quick google search will give you there.
     
  18. TripticWriter

    TripticWriter Groundskeeper

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    I recently found a nice and believable Harry/Tonks story. It's certainly fluffy but I like the fact that the romance take some time to form. And since the stroy doesn't revolve around the pairing and we have an original idea for year 5; I found this story highly likeable.

    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

    Hope you like it, I found it really funny and refreshing.

    edit: erf just found the story in the review section...:p
     
  19. Niffler Lord

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    Yes it is a semi-enjoyable Honks. Though sometimes Harry seems to be a beaten puppy.... And lets not forget the "Hero", "pup" nicknames....
     
  20. Seratin

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    i liked it......it would be nice if he/she finished it but it hasn't been updated since january. i like the way it builds up and not just "i fancy tonks" in the first chapter
     
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