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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by solidus, Sep 3, 2009.

  1. solidus

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    Hey I need some help with a fic I am trying to write so i'll just give you part of the plot.
    1.Its going to be AU where Harry accidentally kills his aunt,so his uncle informs the police but they cant believe him,so he beats the crap out of him such that harry is on the brink of dying.His uncle gets scared thinking he killed him so he dumps him in London.
    2.Ron will be different since he is always complaining how he is poor and i think that would be a motivation.so he will be in slytherin,Hermione will also be different.
    3.Harry will grow up in the streets of london where I plan on creating a nemesis for him.
    I will just leave it at that if anyone is willing to help me I will give them the rest.Thanks
     
  2. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    I ... seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not.

    In the slim chance that you're not: Do you A) really want to write a FF, and B) want to write that FF?
     
  3. Random Shinobi

    Random Shinobi Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    Eh... What kind of help do you need?

    That plot of yours is just a plot bunny...and a bit cliché at that. Do you have anything more planned than the starting point? If not, that's the first thing you should focus on.

    If you need help with the actual writing process, then write the first chapter and post it on WBA.
     
  4. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think you're missing a part--the bit where Harry gets adopted by Robert Schuller, protegé of Norman Vincent Peale, and learns to defeat Voldemort through the power of positive thinking.

    Hermione indeed is different: she's a Scientologist. Instead of a wand, she uses an enchanted E-meter with a magical core of an actual public hair from L. Ron Hubbard. She believes that Harry's horcrux is really a manifestation of a Body Thetan. She believes that there's no problem that cannot be solved by application of a personality test.

    Neville, it turns out, is a world champion break dancer. This doesn't enter into the plot, but it's too cool not to use. Oh, and he wears lots of bling and says the word "shizzle" a lot, despite it's having fallen out of fashion.

    Luna is a conservatively dressed devotee of Ayn Rand. Her late mother left her infomation that Atlantis is the land where all the magical Atlases can be found. She desperately seeks to join them and fulfill her secret fantasy of being raped by the greatest Atlas of them all, who may or may not be named Hank, short for Harry.

    I'm sorry--were you looking for good story ideas or just ideas?
     
  5. Randeemy

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    ^ This would be epic
     
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    lol, persy - is it wrong that I want to read that fic?
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    Writing lesson number one: Don't use all-caps.
     
  8. Torak

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    I would love you forever and have your kids if you write that:awesome
     
  9. ZeroTheDestroyer

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    Maximum LOL! Hank indeed.

    But seriously I think the newbie is looking for some attention, like the rest of us when we first came here. At least he isn't as annoying as that dude with the Bananas.

    :banana:
     
  10. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    That's pure beauty. Harry's worst enemy is a hobo. Why didn't I think of that before.
     
  11. scaryisntit

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    There's a way about you Pers that makes me want to read even your sarcastic ideas. Good show.

    OP: I've yet to read a fic where Harry "grows up on the streets of London" that isn't worth more than a 1/5 here. Rethink your plot... well, plot bunny. What you've got there is not a plot.
     
  12. vlad

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    Ah, but what if it were a story where Harry went out to raise himself in the streets of London... and then ran into Dung? A Munderitus fic!
     
  13. InfernoCannon

    InfernoCannon Seventh Year

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    Now I'm just imagining some screwed up Harry Potter/BioShock crossover with Luna in Rapture.

    @OP: Most of your plot has been done to death, and never very well. The only thing I can think of thats any different is Harry accidently killing Petunia.
     
  14. solidus

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    I read your replies and know it does seem pathetic,so before I throw in the towel I will just give the rest of the plot.
    When harry is unconscious he kind of discovers his magic by fighting it when it is in his form but slightly altered.Ron will be bad the whole poverty thing makes him hate everyone who seems content and his hate makes him want power so that he can kick their asses so he ends up in slytherin.Draco being a death eaters son will know allot more than the others so Harry wont be kicking his ass around.I think Voldemort got a pretty raw deal,so here i'll try to make him prove why people fear to mention his name and i'll also try to prove Dumbledore's strength..I also think that the Death Eaters are brought to be weak so I will remedy that.....(I respect your ideas so if you guys still think it lame its cool i'll drop it)
     
  15. Aekiel

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    The most important piece of advice I can give you right now is to get a beta for any fics you start writing. Seriously.
     
  16. Perspicacity

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    You seem serious about writing, so let me give you a more useful, less flippant answer:

    It's not that people don't like your idea, so much as you haven't really posed a proper story idea yet any more than I did with my earlier post. You probably have a lot more detail about your story in your head than you're conveying here, but what you've given us isn't enough to judge. So far, you've talked a bit about characterization and some of the departures from canon in your AU 'verse; you've also filled in a bit of the setting (Harry in London, e.g., after he murders his Aunt and his family ditches him).

    But what you haven't given us is an idea of what the story is going to be about. What's the essential conflict that will define the story? What's the scope--is it a full seven year multi-volume epic? A one-shot covering his initiation into the magical world and his sorting? A first-year novella? A post-Hogwarts AU novel detailing Harry's assault on Voldemort with this backstory interspersed throughout?

    What you've shown leads to natural questions: Does Harry fear or hate magic now? Does he fear or hate himself, given that he murdered his Aunt? Does he adopt the soul of a jackal and prey upon the weak and unmagical as he ekes a living on the hard streets of London? Does he have the capacity to befriend? To trust? To love? Is he innocent or jaded? Is he driven toward some goal or is mere survival enough? All will color how he interacts with the world, and that's just one character. You should go through similar questions with your other main characters as well to get a feel for what they're like. You don't have to answer them all to us, but you do have to know the answers if you want to pull this off.

    Honestly, if this is your first time at writing, the best advice I can give you is what I've suggested to others: shelve your big story idea for a little while (it's not mature enough to write yet anyway) and try your hand at a few one-shots. Go read the Plot Bunnies thread or use one of your own and find a nice, compact idea that can be written in under five thousand words. Once you have a few of these under your belt, you'll have confidence in your ability to finish a story (uncommon in fanfiction) as well as a good idea of what your strengths and weaknesses are as a writer. Only then should you revisit your ambitious idea and see if it's still the story you wish to write.

    When you have written a story (or first chapters of your longer story), you are welcome to post it in the Work By Authors section of DLP. You'll get some brutally honest criticism, true, but flaming is forbidden there. From the comments, you'll know what you did right and what you need to work on. Don't get too discouraged--few of us (certainly not I) wrote well in their first attempts.

    They say you should write about what you know. I'll be honest--I'd be first in line to pick up a good Harry Potter story where his formative years were spent in Kenya. You're probably one of the few around who could pull off such a story with any authority.

    Good luck to you with your writing.
     
  17. solidus

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    Thats a great idea and it has got me thinking,if I were to write it,would it be set in the colonial era?...what do you think.
     
  18. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think any era you feel fits the story best would be the one to use. It's possible to have the Kenyan Magical world still be in a colonial era at the time of the Harry Potter story, while the Muggle part of the country is independent. This could also help explain why he's there.

    Formatting protip: it's best to use space after punctuation marks like periods and commas. It makes one's writing easier to read.
     
  19. solidus

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    I will try and write to post on WBA,but I have another question,what if its a fic where a Kenyan goes to England.He meets potter maybe they become friends or enemies(he loathes the white man)
     
  20. Tehan

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    ...anything you want to tell us about your feelings on caucasians, solidus?
     
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