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Help choosing a new computer

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by headbanger22, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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  2. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Pretty nice. I'd get rid of that wireless shit though. All that for $800+ isn't that bad either.

    Ah, pounds. Didn't really look at the price all that much after I saw the specs.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2009
  3. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    MEh, first of all that is in punds not dollars, so the price is actually pretty abd.

    Second, if you are not willing, or don't know someone who is willing to put a computer together from pieces I cant help you all that much.

    Go to www.bit-tech.net look under the hardware section, they have hardware guides that show you computer builds. From what I have seen the parts they recommend generally are the best you will find unless you want to do lots of research.
     
  4. se7en

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    If you are worrying about money then I suggest you build your next computer.
    www.newegg.com
     
  5. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Considering he's living in the UK, shipping in a pc from California might raise a few issues.
     
  6. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Newegg has a UK store I thought..
     
  7. Oz

    Oz For Zombie. Moderator DLP Supporter

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    No it doesn't.

    OP: Try Dabs, Komplett or Hardwareversand if you decide to build your own. Hardwareversand also do assembly of your computer for about €20, but probably cost a lot more in shipping seeing as they're German.

    EDIT: Looks like komplett no longer ship to England. Suck for you. D:
     
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  8. ForsakenOne

    ForsakenOne Groundskeeper

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    Pretty dam good system for gaming IMO. Youll be able to play all the newest games out so far at max settings. I have that same monitor, and it is awesome for a 1680 x 1050 full HD setting. If you've never built a computer before, i recommend that you do, it saves you money and overall produces a much better computer. Some things you might wanna ditch is Windows Vistaids, awful stuff, and replace the motherboard with an asus one.
     
  9. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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    Thanks to everyone who has posted. I have done the self build thing before and I found the entire process to be a total pain in the ass. I think I spent about £700 to £800 last time.
    So the price of the one above seemed OK to me.

    There was another computer I was looking at getting from cyberpower systems here is the speck sheet and price

    * CASE: Cyberpower Gangster Mid Tower 420W Black
    * Lights & Illumination: NONE
    * Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default Case Fan
    * Power Supply Upgrade: 700 Watts Power Supplies (CyberPowerPC Performance ATX 2.0 Power - Quad SLI Ready)
    * CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology ***Overclockable S& S only***
    * Overclocking Service: No Overclocking
    * Cooling Fan : AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
    * MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 790GX HYBRID CROSSFIRE Chipset with PCIE slot DDR3/1600(O.C.) SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, & 7.1Audio ***Overclockable XXX***
    * MEMORY: 8GB (4x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz Dual Channel Memory (OCZ Gold w/ HeatSpreader ***Overclockable XXX***)
    * VGA Power Supply: NONE
    * VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E x16 1GB Video Card
    * VIDEO CARD 2: ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E x16 1GB Video Card
    * LCD Monitor: NONE
    * 2nd Monitor: NONE
    * Hard Drive: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
    * Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive
    * Hard Drive Cooler: None
    * Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (Black Color)
    * Optical Drive 2: NONE
    * SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    * SPEAKERS: NONE
    * Network: ONBOARD 10/1000 NETWORK CARD
    * MODEM: NONE
    * Keyboard: NONE
    * Mouse: NONE
    * Extra Thermal Display : NONE (AS SHOWN)
    * Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE
    * Wireless 802.11B/G Access Point: NONE
    * Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
    * Cable Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU
    * Cables: None
    * Video Camera: NONE
    * Power Surge Protection: None
    * IEEE Card: NONE
    * USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    * USB Portable Drive: NONE
    * Floppy: NONE
    * OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
    * Media Center Remote & TV Tuner: NONE
    * RUSH SERVICE: NONE
    * WARRANTY SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    * HOME INSTALLATION SERVICE: NONE

    £821.00 ex. VAT
    £944.15 in. VAT

    The only problem with this I have is its just the tower and nothing else and I would really like some new speakers and a new monitor.
     
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  10. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer Moderator DLP Supporter

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    With two video cards, that PSU doesn't look to be enough. Not quite sure though, but I'd take something a bit larger.
     
  11. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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    I just checked cyberpowers PSU recommendation guide and they say 700w plus for two ATI Radeon HD 4850 cards. I can get either a 750w,780w,800w,850w,900w or a 1000w PSU to choose from.
    For some reson beyond me the 750w PSU is the most expensive of the lot.
     
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  12. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Are they from the same manufacturer? Quality does play some role, the PSU is often underappreciated. Depending on how you are going to use your rig, you may want to consider the noise level.

    I just noticed that you had a 700w included, I only skimmed the specs and noticed the 420w tower. 700 should suffice.
     
  13. Oz

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    Is it modular while the others aren't?
     
  14. ForsakenOne

    ForsakenOne Groundskeeper

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    I don't think you need that much wattage for 2x 4850s, considering a g260 only needs bout 550, but then again your builds a bit different, 700 would be on the safe side.

    Also, might i recommend windows 7? 100x better then Vista, maybe 2x better than xp, and its free until 2010, which saves you bout 150 bux.

    edit: nvm, your setup is prebuilt
     
  15. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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    I have been thinking about the whole pre-built vs build it your self thing. And I decided to have a look and see how much it would cost, here what I came up with.

    Remove Qty. Product Name Quickcode Price (exc. VAT) Line total

    [​IMG] OCZ 4GB PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz Gold Dual Channel (2x2GB) #34870 £ 39.95 £ 79.90
    [​IMG] 1000W Hiper M1000 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply #35194 £ 106.98 £ 106.98
    [​IMG] Asus M4A79 Deluxe, AMD 790FX, Socket AM3 Motherboard #35241 £ 119.95 £ 119.95
    [​IMG] 1Tb Samsung EcoGreen F2 SATA-2 Hard Drive #35347 £ 51.95 £ 51.95
    [​IMG] Samsung 22x LightScribe DVD-RW SATA oem with Nero #35360 £ 16.54 £ 16.54
    [​IMG] AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz, [AM3, Retail] #35816 £ 152.88 £ 152.88
    [​IMG] 500GB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 2 Hard Drive #36047 £ 34.95 £ 34.95
    [​IMG] Avenge Power Gangster Midi Tower Case #36093 £ 24.69 £ 24.69
    [​IMG] GAINWARD ATI Radeon HD4870 GDDR5 SDR 1024MB/256bit #36916 £ 99.18 £ 198.36


    Out of Stock Item!
    [​IMG] Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64 OEM with Windows 7 Voucher #36921 £ 77.62 £ 77.62 (click if you have changed any details)
    Financial options:
    Don't pay us now - pay us in 9 months!
    Start to pay £41.58 monthly after 9 months!
    Click apply now to start! [​IMG]
    Cart Total £ 863.82 [​IMG] Delivery Costs:
    The delivery cost for your order depends on the weight of the order, as well as the delivery destination. More carriage options will be available when you log in.
    Approx. Delivery £ 13.84 VAT £ 131.65 Total £1009.31
    what do you guys think of it.
     
  16. ForsakenOne

    ForsakenOne Groundskeeper

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    Well, if you build it yourself you save a crapload of money, and the parts are much better quality, plus you have lots of room to upgrade. The thing is, building it yourself maybe troublesome for a first timer. I recommend you read up on how to build a PC and see if you understand. Its generally pretty straightforward.

    Why do you have 2 HDs? Plus like i said, get rid of the vista and get windows 7, will give you money for a better GPU. 4890s are pretty cheap nowadays. The mobo and cpu is very good, leaves room for OC and upgrading (SLI).
     
  17. headbanger22

    headbanger22 Third Year

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    I have 2 HDs for the reason you can never have enough storage. The 500 if for the OS and games the 1tb is for TV programs, films excreta. The vista OS is there because it has a window 7 voucher with it. As for the GPU the price above is for two of them they are about £114 + Vat each, compared to £172 + Vat for a single 4890.

    I intend to read everything I can find on building computers before I order anything.
     
  18. ForsakenOne

    ForsakenOne Groundskeeper

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    Ah i see, very nice. I myself would rather get a newer single card, and then SLI that maybe later, but you can't really go wrong with 2 4870s. Anyhow, by all means go ahead and built it youself, you wont regret it ;).
     
  19. Richard

    Richard Supreme Mugwump

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    I agree. Building it versus pre-built is better. Pre-built sucks, for the most part.
     
  20. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    I herd ur mom was pre-built. :3

    Also, looks like a decent system thus far, and I do advise building it yourself like everyone else has. You won't really get a good pre-built system unless you shell out a couple grand, and even then its a maybe, maybe not type decision when its cheaper to build it yourself and you can still use the awesome parts.
     
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