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HP Fanfic cliche rant thread v5.1

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dark Lord Rostam, Apr 5, 2006.

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  1. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    I don't care whether Harry uses Light or Dark Magic.

    I want fucking brutality.

    That's what I want in Temptations (muwahahahah)

    I want Harry to torture, murder, kill, assasinate. I don't care how he does it.

    THAT is dark. Not:

    Harry: The brain shredding curse. Dark Magic!

    Everyone: oooooo EVIL!
     
  2. Yarrgh!

    Yarrgh! Pirate King

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    Yeah...and why the HELL do people always use that SAME fucking example?

    Harry: Okay, if you levitate someone 100 feet in the air/off a cliff, what happens?

    Hogwarts students: They die.

    Harry: Now is it a light spell?

    Hogwarts students: No. Wow. We have been so mistaken. Just be cause we can kill someone with the first spell we learnt means that we should be allowed to use Dark Magic freely. Come on, Harry, you are our leader, since you becamse wise over the summer. Lets go see if Borgin and Burkes has enough copies of 101 ways to kill a Muggle or Mudblood

    Harry: Erm...okay?

    DAMMIT!

    Even :stained had a better one than that, and he was all about cliches. He used Evanesco and Enervate to say that you can do anything with simple spells.

    Goddamn...i automatically stop reading a fic when i see this example, even when i weathered the last five chapters of shit and cliches. It just shows how bad someone can be at making original thoughts.
     
  3. True Story

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    Charms>Transfiguration, Dumbledore used mostly charms, to my memory, in the duel at the ministry.
     
  4. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    How about in a lot of fics that feature little Voldie or Harry in an orphanage, and the owner/master's name is Crinkle? I have found no canon evidence of this, even seeing that the owner/master of the orphanage Tom was at was a woman. Unless there is some other literary reference that features this character, I am puzzled to how there seems to be so many stories with a Mr. Crinkle in them.
     
  5. Zero

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    Crinkle the big bad caretaker is overused and lame now, Emma and Dan Granger is fucking ridiculous. How hard is to change the name to something else? I actually thought it was canon and that I missed it somewhere the way it's used so much.
     
  6. Evil Shnitzel

    Evil Shnitzel High Inquisitor

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    I think its some character from one of the Dickens books but I'm probably wrong.
     
  7. Yarrgh!

    Yarrgh! Pirate King

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    No, he had a different name. Mister something.
     
  8. TheIllusiveOne

    TheIllusiveOne Raptured to Hell

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    I hate it when authors portray Dumbledore as the WORLD'S most powerful wizard and the most powerful wizard since Merlin. Last time I checked he was only as powerful as Voldemort is, and that is JUST in Britain.. People always talk like he's amazingly powerful, which I find horrible ironic considering all the crap that's happened at Hogwarts thanks to his own ineptitude. And I find it annoying when people act like Britain is the only place in the world where wizards exist. Dumbledore should be probably really poweful compared to regular wizards, but c'mon, most powerful in the world? That's just completely narrowing the entire wizarding world strictly to the British, and it just seems to make magic much smaller and less interesting, IMO.
     
  9. Sepanto

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    i never understood why A BANK DEALS WITH WILLS?! comeon, would someone please tell me why the fu** does gringotts deal with sirius'/lily's/james'/albus' will?
     
  10. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    Don't just bash, offer up an alternative.
     
  11. Sepanto

    Sepanto Groundskeeper

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    Going to a lawyer and placing the will with him. Placing it with their house elf. All wizarding wills a read in thewizengemot (sp?)......
     
  12. Xiph0

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    Like the house elf idea, if it was an elf such as Dobby. Kreacher though.. Tsk tsk, nope.
     
  13. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    LOL, I'm not going to even touch this after the huge bust up in the IRC room on the same topic...
     
  14. Dark Syaoran

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    I like to think that Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard alive(before HBP), bar Voldemort. Yes, they both live in England but that doesnt mean there are others that arent close to their levels. Problem is, we havnt seen any(not including the two schools that went to Hogwarts), and only heard a little, of the magical world outside of Britain.

    He is not the most powerful since Merlin, the four Founders were probably alot more powerful and skilled, but whatever... There were probably several other wizards/witches that were more powerful the Dumbledore after the Founders as well, from different countries.
     
  15. Yarrgh!

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    I have the Wizengamot thing going for the will reading. It made more sense to me...why would you leave the record of what you own, where it is and who it is supposed to go to with a bunch of profiteering Goblins?

    They'd rob you blind.

    Dumbledore...i think of him as less powerful than Voldemort. He originally had shitloads of experience more than Voldy, but now it's narrowing down. Voldemort has got a larger amount of power, and Harry IS HIS EQUAL...

    What irritates me is people that bash Harry's power. They make Dumbledore the next Merlin...wtf is the point? He still can't kill Voldemort, because he doesn't HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT. Harry and Voldemort are equals, and they are more powerful than Dumbles...not by too much, but by a significant amount.

    Plus, Dumbles is getting old, and he is losing his touch with age. Voldemort...the man is a giant-sized serving of kick-ass. It's only logical that Harry should, at the VERY least, have the potential to become as powerful as Voldemort.
     
  16. TheIllusiveOne

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    That's what annoys me though. Harry is suppose to be Voldemort's equal, therefore if Dumbledore is the most powerful, (tied, or a bit higher or lower than Voldemort) Than the three most powerful wizards in the world would be in England, all having gone to the same school, etc, which is just annoying, and makes the entire world of magic and worthwhile wizards confined to just Hogwarts.
     
  17. Yarrgh!

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    I see Magical Britain as the hotspot in the Wizarding World. Over the centuries, people would have recognized Magical Britain for being the best place to live, and would have moved their families there.

    So...that way, the Wizards of Britain aren't purely...well, Brits.

    And, Hogwarts is supposed to be the best school in the world. With the quality of Durmstrang, this doesn't mean much, but meh.
     
  18. TheIllusiveOne

    TheIllusiveOne Raptured to Hell

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    I really don't see how Hogwarts could be the best magical school in the world considering the terrible teachers... I mean, as far as DADA teachers go we had

    1) Death Eater
    2) Pathetic Fraud
    3) Werewolf
    4) Death Eater
    5) Ministry puppet
    6) Death Eater

    And the potions teacher for the first five years was not only a Death Eater, but a bias and overall bad teacher (According to Harry's POV)
     
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  19. Skeletaure

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    To be fair, #3, #4 and #6 are were good teachers despite their various shortcomings. Also, in previous years the DADA teachers would have been better, they are only so bad in Harry's years due to the curse put on the position by Voldemort.

    Since we're discussing it anyway I'll present my arguement for Dumbledore being the most powerful wizard in the world.

    1. Dumbledore is the most powerful person in Britain.

    2. Britain is the best country, magically speaking, out of Europe as it has the best education system (Hogwarts).

    3. As Dumbledore is the best wizard in the best country in Europe, Dumbeldore is the most powerful wizard in Europe.

    This part is all fact that can be extrapolated from canon. This next part is what can be argued.

    4. Harry Potter has been proven to have groundings in common western mythology (Merlin etc.).

    5. In mythology Britain, and Europe as a whole, has been more magical than the rest of the world (Witchcraft and Druidism have their roots in Celtic pagan religions. The Celts are from Britain).

    6. If in mythology Britain and Europe are the most magical places in the world, then it is likely this will be true in Harry Potter also, due to point #4.

    7. Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard in Britain and Europe, therefore he is the most powerful wizard in the most magical region of the world, therefore the most powerful wizard in the world.

    Of course, this arguement is pointless as he's dead now.
     
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  20. Yarrgh!

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    Voldemort is more powerful, though. Dumbles is NOT more powerful than Voldemort...it isn't logical.

    Whatever Dumbles can do, Voldemort can do, but Voldemort also has the Dark Arts. He also has greater magical power. Dumbledore is No. 2, and Harry and Voldemort are tied for No. 1 in terms of Magical Power.

    In knowledge, Dumbledore comes first, possibly equaled by Voldemort.

    Harry doesn't figure on the list at all.
     
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