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HP Fanfic cliche rant thread v5.1

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dark Lord Rostam, Apr 5, 2006.

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  1. The Dark Monarch

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  2. Master Slytherin

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    Har is just pure, unadultered laziness on the author's part - or at least that's how I see it. And 'Mione is just the author trying to make an old-fashioned name like Hermione hip and coooool!!!11!
     
  3. Yarrgh!

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    ROFL!

    Hermione 121 is the name of an asteriod...maybe she was trying to emphasize her impact on Harry's life? :p
     
  4. redqueen

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    Clichés I hate? Where to begin!

    Weasleys. They are not the only family in the wizarding world. Fred and George are not the only inventors, or businessmen. Bill is not the only curse-breaker. And for the love of all that's holy, Arthur is *not* the only Ministry employee, and is probably the *last* person who would ever be nominated for Minister.

    Purebloods. We have seen no canon evidence of a vast, complex pureblood culture, with rules and ettiquete that look like something out of upper-class Victorian England. Rituals, duels, titles, arranged marriages - yes, Sacrifices Arc, I'm looking at *you*.

    Hogwarts. It's understandable that canon is Hogwarts-centric, as that is where the stories take place. However, Hogwarts is a *school*. It is not the base of operations for the entire Light side of wizarding Britain. You are not going to find the most powerful and obscure spells in the world in its library. The teachers are *teachers* (pretty piss-poor ones, most of them), not world-class researchers. And Dumbledore is a Headmaster. He does not make every decision in the wizarding world. If he did, the Order wouldn't be an illegal fringe group.

    You know, I've been wanting to say that for ages.. very theraputic.
     
  5. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, I find it amusing when Arthur Weasley, head of the two man department of abuse of magical artifacts office, the lowest department int he entire ministry, becomes Minister.
     
  6. Niffler Lord

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    Lol Thank you for bringing those us. I really cringe at Arthur Weasley as Minister.

    The thing about the Pure-bloods is that there is nothing to suggest otherwise in Canon. I mean we know they are old so it stands to reason that they have a certain culture associated with them. Is it better than the rest not necessarily.

    Ahh Hogwarts. I find it annoying that a number of fics show Hogwarts as the final battle ground of good v. evil, darkness v. light. Its a school. And it has survived 1000 years so how the hell does one dark lord destroy it when its seen so may others?
     
  7. liath

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    *raises eyebrow* That's a cliche? It's perfectly original, actually. How many stories out there actually show a pureblood culture at all?
     
  8. Harpy Prince

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    I agree with Liath. Most fics bash purebloods and concentrate on the interfamily marriages than what their culture is actually like.
     
  9. Verse of Darkness

    Verse of Darkness Denarii Host

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    Magial Puberty/Maturation. Is it me, or does the author want an easy way out for power-ups?
     
  10. Evil Shnitzel

    Evil Shnitzel High Inquisitor

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    In slytherin!Harry AU's when he buys a wand, a shower of green and silver sparks emit from the wand.
     
  11. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    So, in Canon a shower of Red and Gold sparks come out of his wand.
     
  12. LINKed up

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    A cliche that I really don't like is in childhood Harry stories how the Potter's sometimes know the Weasley's. Even though it really hasn't been used much, I still dislike it as there is no hint in any of the books of the Weasley's ever even meeting the Potter's.
     
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    I disagree with this to some extent. Hogwarts is not just a school, well it is, but it is seen as great institution in the Magical world. It isnt like some ordinary school that we might go to. It is reasonable for plenty to go on there, in post OOTP fics, Dumbledore is very much a figurehead of the wizarding world. From my perception of canon, you are either home schooled, or go to Hogwarts, it is reasonable to assume that there library has significant rare spells in it, hence the need for the resricted section. It is also important that there is no canon evidence for Magical University and thus students will learn most their stuff at Hogwarts. As for the teachers, well, look at the headmaster for a start, Minerva M, an animagus, something which is explained as being very rare, Flitwick a dueling champion, Snape, an excellent potions master and a very talented wizard from all accounts in HBP. Creating his own spells is only something slightly mentioned with regards to Dumbledore taking his OWLS, and practiaclly rewriting the potions text book whilst at school.


    Anyway, I am sure this has been mentioned before, but swordplay of any kind annoys me. Unfortunatly it is unavoidable these days but I dont understand why Harry needs to start learning to dance around with swords and throw knives. That along with martial arts, which he seems to pick up perfectly in about 2 weeks...
     
  14. Cupspeaker

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    I disagree that Dumbledore would have more magical expeirence than Voldie. He has been headmaster for the last 100 years or so, while Voldemort is always on the lookout for ways to become more powerful. Dumbledore was complecant, while Voldemort was a power hound. Isnt it obvious who has more skills?
     
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    Uh, he hasn't been the headmaster for THAT long. He wasn't the headmaster when Tom was in school, and that was 60 years before Harry was in school.
     
  16. IndoGhost

    IndoGhost Dark Lord

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    Dumbledore would have aleast equal magical expeirence...he killed one dark lord, taught Voldemort, and helped work on the use of dragon blood. And at a very, very old age still able to fight on par with Voldemort. He was only headmaster from 1955, according to lexicon, and even then he spent some time fighting Voldemort.
     
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    Voldemort went on his knowledge hunting crusade from around 1945, approximatly the time he graduated, until around the early seventies late 60s where he emerged as a Dark Lord.

    That's 15-25, maybe even 30 years. Tops.

    Dumbledore was born in 1840, and he graduated in 1857.

    Since he defeated Grindelwald in 1945/46, that meant he was actively gathering knowledge until that time. I mean, he didn't just decide one day, that as a Transfiguration Professor, he would kill a Dark Lord. He obviously planned to do it.

    That is about 88 years of knowledge gathering. Let's be generous and say he was teaching in the 1900s after, and he learnt only a third as much in those days. That is 58 years.

    Dumbledore would, as the people in Counterstrike say, Pwn Voldemort had Dumbledore been younger, willing to kill, and not bound by the prophecy.

    I mean, he, at 156, beat Voldemort in the DoM. Voldemort was forced to be cheap and take possession of Harry.

    If that isn't a clear indication that Dumbledore is the, (Sorry, I have to do this), the Pwnzasaurus Rex of Wizarding Britain, that I don't know what is.
     
  18. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    I hate swordplay! I see absolutely no reason for any witch or wizard to get any sort of weapon outside of their wands. You can do anything that you want with a wand, so why in God's name would you want to fight people with wands intending to cause you extreme bodily with a stick of metal that can cut them. Who gives a shit? They could easily apparate out of range and AK you in half of a second. Even in close quarters, they could hit you in the foot with any sort of distracting or damaging spell, causing you to falter, and kill you in, again, half of a second.
     
  19. Xiph0

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    Good point.. Damn that'd made a sick Music Vid put to something like System of a Down or even early Linkin Park.. RatM maybe?

    Eh yeah, off topic, sorry.
     
  20. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    ?

    :?

    I don't get it...
     
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