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HP Fanfic cliche rant thread v5.1

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dark Lord Rostam, Apr 5, 2006.

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  1. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    A Dumbledore and Voldemort that don't get their hands dirty.

    This annoys me to no end.
     
  2. Xiph0

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    If you were to get actors to do a fight in a sequence where someone swung a sword, his opponent backflipped-and apparated and then Ak'd the guy, set to some really hard rock, it'd be pretty sick to watch.
     
  3. Jon

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    Yes, for it would be a Magical Tiger. And magical Tiger's will one day rule the world. :cool: Lmao. But yes. The only two times in Cannon Harry was shown talking to a normal snake neither of them actually listened to what he said in earnest. The Zoo? The Snake thanked him and then went away. The Dueling Club? It listened to him for a moment and then ignored him.

    Ahem,

    "Whoopie, OMG LOOK AT ME I CAN CONTROL SNAKEZZ!"
     
  4. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    That brings up an interesting idea. I want to see a story where Harry is insane because of the magical word 'Crucio'. How would he kill Voldemort you ask? By turning him into a Bath toy. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Athenia

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    Do we know long the Longbottom's were supposedly under the curse for?
     
  6. Yarrgh!

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    VoD: I ahve to defend magical maturity. Harry is just so pathetic in canon, that it is one of the only ways apart from rituals that he can increase his power. I don't care for the Merlin-overnighter route, so this leaves rituals and maturty for me.

    That said, i am NOT using maturity as a pwoerup in my fic. Maturity makes your magic more efficient, according to what i wrote, so you can change how muchpower you want in your spells, etc. It will, however, act as a powerup, since there are magical blocks to get rid of. So Harry will be more powerful post-maturity, but no-one else would be, since they don't have blocks on their magic.
     
  7. Jon

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    Yeah.. He basically got raped by Draco in the begining of the Sixth book.
     
  8. Athenia

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    Not to mention he goes from being (supposedly) the best DADA student to not learning a single useful thing in Snape's class. Apart from his oh-so clever deduction that Draco was up to something (and mind you he didn't pick up right away that seeing Crabbe and Goyle on his map outside of the RoR might be a give away) he was pretty useless all around in this book. Draco kicks his ass, Snape kicks his ass, he roles over for Dumbledore, and he acts like a average not highly intelligent, poor student of a teenage boy instead of a somewhat intelligent, good at defense guy who has been told a war rests on his shoulders.
     
  9. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    Oh...that would be pretty awesome.

    Lmao.

    I agree with Yarrgh. Harry is such a puss in canon, and since he is supposed to be Voldemort's equal, he has to get a helluva lot stronger and more powerful in the short time that JKR has alloted us to write, and the only viable option that I can see for that is rituals.
     
  10. Amerision

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    I don't think you understand...Harry will not be dueling Lord Voldemort to the death, and therefore will not need any extra power.

    Harry will defeat him using love. Maybe they will exchange a couple spells, Harry gets knocked to his ass. Then, he will either:

    1.) Think he is going to die, and think about Ginny and the love they had, and force it into the scar connection, killing Voldemort.

    2.) The A.K. backfires again, as Harry is feeing so much love for Ginny.

    3.) Ginny, Harry, Ron and Hermione stand together against Voldemort, and create a spell based on their love for each other. Harry will cast it.

    4.) Harry and Voldemort go into another Priori Incantatem, and Harry focuses on his love for Ginny, forcing the beam to Voldemort, who promptly screams, as he has never known love, (As if not knowing something who kill you) falls over dead.


    In short, it will be a Deus Ex Machina, a random, out of left field thing to kill Voldemort. The Power the Dark Lord Knows not is love. It never said only Harry has it, or that it is uberSpecial.

    Plus, Dumbledore said it. And Dumbledore is always right.

    This is the reason I will refrain from reading Book 7.

    The idea that Harry will actually kill Voldemort in a duel is purely fanon based. Harry is too much of a pussy and a weakling to ever do that in canon.
     
  11. Harpy Prince

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    Using swordplay in a duel is stupid that I agree with, unless the sword has a magical core in it and can shoot spells. But using a sword for training can be great for magical duels. If you think about it, it builds great reflexes because most sword arts require that you react to your opponents strikes quickly or else you'll die, much like spell casting. Brandishing a sword can build great arm stregnth and stamina, so when you switch to a wooden wand you'll have energy to spare. And finally while this doesn't just go for sword fighting it could teach you how to be calm in the battlefield so you don't make any mistakes that can be fatal. I think fencing would actually be great training for Harry, it seems very similiar to wizard duels just with longer wands and no spell shooting.
     
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    I'm not sure if this really belong's here, but anyway: I've read a few marauder based fanfic in my youner years and i hate it when they randomly leave petigrew out, just because they don't like him. Actually the same thing has happened in a few other fics, it's not overly common but i hate it when writers will leave out draco malfoy or snape or something like that. Just because you don't like someone, you can't leave them out of your fic! Well, at least not without a good excuse anyway...
     
  13. Amerision

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    I especially hate how everyone makes Peter into a pathetic loser.

    Where in Canon does it ever say Peter is stupid, weak, whiny, female-Phobic, and incapable of doing anything right?

    And why the hell is a ladies man?

    As for leaving characters out...it's just better that way. I know I could never write Hagrid right, and I have trouble with Snape, so I either just kill them off or make them out of the line of dialogue. It's better than ruining the story with shitty material.
     
  14. Harpy Prince

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    Mc Gonnagal says it in the third book when they have a meeting at the three broomsticks.
     
  15. Amerision

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    Yes, but it is way overdone.
     
  16. Harpy Prince

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    I really coudldn't care though. I hate Pettigrew, always will. If he's anything but,
    stupid, weak, whiny, female-Phobic, and incapable of doing anything right. I'll drop the fic like a bad habit. It's probably the only cliche' i can't live without.
     
  17. Yarrgh!

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    Agreed, Harpy Prince. The only time i liked Pettigrew being remotely strong/powerful was in jbern's fic, where he was learnign from 'TEH EVIL GUIDEBOOK!!11!!!!!11!11!'

    In book 3, when he is discovered, he comes across as a pathetic, weak individual, with the personality of a block of VERY boring wood. The sort of person that you instinctively dislike, without doing anything more than see them.

    Now...that said, I can understand where the author comes from when they leave him out, but it is a mistake. Leaving an important character out is not a good idea...not only will it get reviews pointing this out, but it also makes the fic feel incomplete.

    Personally, in this specific case, i like to see Pettigrew disinvolved, but ONLY to the point that he still pops in once a chapter, spreading his malcontent :p
     
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  18. Random Guy

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    If James, Sirius and Remus were really the popular wizards and bullies canon claims them to be, then why are they friends with Peter? I know in RL there are situations where the jock befriends the weakling. But in canon James is an asshole and I don't see him befriending Peter.
     
  19. Dark Lord Rostam

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    Not sure at the moment, but I think it states somewhere that they just felt sorry for him because he was being teased by others.
     
  20. Yarrgh!

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    Which is a rather noble act for a supposedly Bastard!James Potter.
     
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