He can kill with TWO words. If the visible and relatively slow-moving beam connects. It'd lose out to a Bolter. As to 'fine control', nothing a Theta-class wouldn't be able to do with training and a bit of Biomancy. And Apparition is merely the equivalent of short-range warp travel - there are examples of mindless animals that are capable of that in 40k.

As for Alpha-level anything...

It is completely unknown in the history of the Imperium for someone to exceed Beta-level and remain sane - except, of course, for the Emperor.

Harry would be naught but around a Theta-class with a slightly larger than usual bag of tricks. Oh, and zero experience with dealing with the denizens of the Warp.

 

Yeah, gotta wonder how HP magic would mix with the daemon-ridden plane of the Warp. Then again, would a Theta class psyker even warrant any attention from the entities there, especially back before the Fall of the Eldar.

 

I call bullshit.

Which humans are incapable of...

Now you are talking about Alpha-Plus psykers... Besides making things go boom doesn't require control, only power. Your average Alpha-class psyker will not be able to conjure a banquet of flowers and then transfigure them into a pig.

Except every Adept of Terra, many Primarchs, some Space Marine Librarians... and so on. Beta+ psykers merely tend to be unstable. Not all of them are.

A slightly bigger bag of tricks? That's more than a just an understatement. Also, why would Harry have to care about demons? It's not like doing HP magic opens him up for demonic possession...

 

My fandom can totally beat up your fandom.

Look, Harry Potter is about as soft-science as you can get. Transfiguration would take an utterly obscene amount of power - as in, Tsar Bomba times a fair bit - to pull off with conventional science. So please stop cherry-picking abilities that anyone with any knowledge of science would call bullshit to and using them to demonstrate how amazingly powerful Harry is.

Your great debating skills are shining through.

Except for bog-standard psykers in first edition, and Librarians and human-Genestealer hybrids in Space Hulk, and that's just scratching the surface.

Plus there's backpack-sized personal teleporters that are standard issue for every Terminator, and displacer fields, and not to mention Eldar, Orks, and Necrons capable of the same through technology or the Warp... sorry, but apparition isn't quite evidence that Harry's the Emperor's second coming.

And your average Harry Potter will not be able to snap a Battle-Titan in two or send an entire army insane. And it's very debatable how much 'control' is required to memorise a wand movement and an incantation for each specific task. If Harry slept through the flowers-and-pigs lesson, he wouldn't know where to start.

And I'm not talking about anything. I was quoting from the 4th edition rulebook. It said Alpha, not Alpha-Plus. Alphas dominate battlefields, Alpha-plus and greater dominate worlds - and are never entirely human.

>Space Marine
>human

:awesome

And 'Adept of Terra' means anyone that works for the Adeptus Terra, which is a blanket term for a whole bunch of things, from the Administratum to the Imperial Guard to the Space Marines. Try again.

By Beta+, do you mean Beta and higher? Because Beta-plus is a very different thing entirely.

We are talking about Harry in the 40k verse, aren't we? Someone flinging around psyker powers without using the warp at all would be instantly secreted away into the interrogation and research facilities (or equivalent) of whichever race noticed him first - unless Chaos did, in which case he'll start caring about daemons very quickly.

And read through the long, long chapter on Psyker Powers in the Dark Heresy rulebook, then the pages upon pages of individual psyker rules in the various codices, then talk to me about exaggeration.


You're aiming for rating Harry a Beta here. By extension, that makes the Wizarding World a collection of thousands of fueding individuals where a stubbornly average example of a student is on par with high-power Space Marine Librarians or low-power Daemonhosts. Thus making trained and talented wizards Alpha and Dumbledore and Voldemort Alpha-Plus.

If that was the case, Rowling's version of Earth would look more like Venus.

 

I said delta-class, which is two steps from beta. And I'm assuming we are speaking about Harry that is actually competent because otherwise he would be killed in an instant. (Well, he's still liable to be killed very, very soon).

By Adepts of Terra I mean the old shamans. You know, those guys who created the Emperor.

 

acturaly i think a chaos harry fic is a bit better. how bout "after wispers from the runeous powers a confused harry stumbles across a portal to the warp only useable by a psyker emerging from the portal a chaos sorceror senses the young wizard and prepares to train harry in service to the dark gods the sorcerors motivation for training harry is unkown at first but it shall be reaveled later on in the book" hows that

 

OR... we keep Harry exactly where he is, in the Potterverse, and we introduce the warp.

Let's be honest here, a Harry-in-40k would not survive - period. Therefore, if anything, it makes the most sense to, for lack of better words, bring the 40k-verse to him.

Here's my idea - have Harry, desperate for anything to defeat Voldemort, finds some traces of forgotten lore that suggests the existence of 'gods', something beyond his ken, but that could grant him powers far beyond the natural and supernatural. He attempts to contact them - only to contact the Chaos Gods, who were waiting for a new mortal they could effectively utilize. Then the only true psyker on the planet at the time - the Emperor - discovers the new shift in power and begins working to track Harry down.

...could work for a decent Insane-or-Evil!Harry, I think.

 

I don't think so. The Emperor is essentially the most powerful psyker ever. He could wipe out an evil/insane psyker from several systems away at his prime, Harry just wouldn't register as anything resembling a threat compared to him.

 

Okay, fine, forget the Emperor, then. He probably wouldn't even see Harry as a threat in any case. Still, you have the grounds for some interesting developments incorporating Chaos and Chaos magic into Harry's arsenal, and if his corruption is slow and drawn out, it could be one hell of an interesting descent into madness and evil for Harry.

 

yeah that reminds me of a short story i wrote in english back in my teens aparently it was pretty good so yeah thats good i might post the first chapter on the forum to see if anyone will like it

 

You said Delta, maybe Beta. And since a few posts later you were comparing him favourably with Alpha psykers...

The Shamans weren't psykers, they were prophets. Hell, they predated the Chaos Gods. The warp becoming what it is now destroyed their usual reincarnation gig, so thousands of them topped themselves at the same time in order to continue guiding mankind in one immortal body. And lo, the Emperor was born.

Well... wait, that's all? Damn it, I was having fun.

 

Yes, I compared him favourably with alpha-class psykers...but I wasn't speaking about raw power, as you undoubtedly know if you read my post. Wizards can casually do many things that even the most powerful psykers find exceedingly hard to imitate.

Um... Warp was there before the Chaos Gods... You might call them proto-psykers, but it's clear that they were psykers. What else could they be? Now, I don't know how big part of them surpassed gamma-class, but at least some did.

Have fun!

 

Random Shinobi got rick-rolled. Moving on.

Imo; the fact that there is even another Psyker on Earth at the same time as the Emperor at all would attract his attention; no matter how many times he outclasses Harry. Problem with this is that we get a generic mentor fic which lame as a bucket of bolts. or we just have the Emperor wish Harry into oblivion which wouldn't make for a story.

Mmm. I doubt this x-over would work no matter how you put it, not a serious one anyway.

 

The Emperor protects.

 

The verbal equivalent of a shrug.

 

Which was just whipped outta nowhere like 5 days after the last post in this thread... >_>

 

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

 

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

 

Hm. Tzeentch needs a warcry. Sadly, he doesn't have one yet so I'll have to go with this.


CH-CH-CH-CHANGING!