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Idea/possible colab - Riddick universe

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dragonis, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. Dragonis

    Dragonis First Year

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    A Riddick crossover or with Harry being Riddick, I have honestly wanted to do this for ages, but I haven't been able to come up with a good story line for it. Here is the thing I keep getting stuck at certain points and have never really been able to think it through, what I have been thinking about so far.

    First off is the time period. Riddick time vs Hogwarts time.
    Pros of Riddick timeline: Can make it really interesting, no heavy structure to work with.
    Cons: No real structure to work with, would have to make up a ton of stuff and could be hard to follow for some readers (as I found out from War).
    General: Things like what Hogwarts is/would be, and magical/muggle relations that kind of stuff is hard to put together and make coherent.

    Pros Hogwarts: Established setting and environment, easier to relate to for readers, fundamentals of te environment are present.
    Cons: I want a frozen area/world scene and some dragon or some stuff like that, makes it a bit less fun and a bit more restricting.


    Plot
    Harry = Riddick for sure.
    Hermione = Hermione, although if you have an idea in mind for making her Kyra that could be cool.
    Here is one possible scenario if this were to be done in Riddick time: Post movie 1, Dumbledore sends mercs to track Harry down, he brings himself in and is about to take out dumbledore when Hermione comes in
    Could be them getting Harry out of prison somehow or what not.
    Basis of this is that Voldemort is back and everyone thinks that Harry died when Voldemort attacked him, some like Dumbledore or whoever believe that in fact both of them are alive. Could have had Harry secretly be set up with the Dursleys with no one else knowing and then he runs away or what not. Opposite of that Harry still set up with the Durselys, runs away but everyone knows, they don't know that Riddick is actually Harry Potter (could have gotten a 'skull job') to get rid of the scar or something.
    Either way Harry is brought in to go up against Voldemort...This is when I hit the wall...then what happens? Honestly, not a clue.

    Possible things after: Harry (grown up Riddick) goes to Hogwarts to start learning magic or what not just because Hermione is there. Things heat up or what not, but then again...what happens after?

    So thats what I've got, magic would have to be developed slowly by Harry also. A collab or if anyone wants to run with this idea by themselves, go for it. At the moment I'm focusing on War so solo writing this might have to be put off for a while, but its an idea thats been brewing for a while and wanted to see what you guys thought of it.
     
  2. Crazy1

    Crazy1 Groundskeeper DLP Supporter

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    I'd swear the Riddick 'verse is set in the future so that's one gaping plot hole you'd have to fix.

    I can't really see Riddick going to Hogwarts either. he'd just kidnap Hermione to get her away from the Fucker that sent Mercs after him.

    How would you deal with Riddick's Furyan energy? Another thing, how would Dumbledore contact Mercs?

    I can't really see this being possible, but I suppose you could do it the Nonjon way. Have Harry frozen in time, by Voldemort or the Ministry (when he's fulfilled his purpose) and hey presto: you've got an angry Harry who's likely willing to do just about anything to get back at the bastards who froze him.
     
  3. Hasty

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  4. Dragonis

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    No I was thinking more along the lines of Harry being Riddick.

    -YES perfect.
     
  5. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    ...Harry looks nothing like him. And never will. Ever.
     
  6. Hasty

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    It doesn't really matter though does it? Considering the things put into most AU stories simply changing Riddicks appearance is hardly a big deal.
     
  7. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Yea, if you guys remember the older stories back then, changing Harry to look like Riddick is nothing in comparison. :)
     
  8. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    I really don't see how this could be a good crossover verse. What is really your goal here? Do you want bad-ass Riddick to deal with Harry Potter's problems or you want Riddick to be able to use magic to solve his problems.

    In the former I don't see how sub planting Riddick in Harry is especially interesting. You basically have a very independent and resourceful character going to Hogwarts which can be achieved by just writing an AU characterization of Harry Potter.

    The latter could be interesting but again I’m not enthused by the idea of an already powerful character also having magic. The only thing you could be doing in this second scenario is how Riddick (Harry Potter) makes different choices than what Riddick (original verse) did.

    The little glimpse of the plot shows that you are counting on Harry/Riddick Hermione/Kyra love connection as a major plot device to pull the worlds together. That just sends warning bells in my head. If you are going through with this I would find another plot device that bolsters this one or completely replaces the romance angle.
     
  9. Dragonis

    Dragonis First Year

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    Thats exactly the problem I've been trying to get around, and have been able to come up with nothing really.
     
  10. Hasty

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    Personally I'd rather change Riddick to look more like Harry, you'd probably turn quite a few people away changing Harrys appearance.
     
  11. Lord Apophis

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    I would like to read something like this if done the nonjon way, with having harry frozen in time.

    Harry wakes up in the 26th century a year after the second Riddick movie. (I think the Riddick movies take place in that time)

    He remembers being frozen in time by the Ministry incase they needed a
    weapon against some future dark lord.

    He learns from the small group of wizards and witches that woke him that an
    ancient dark lord, known only as The Dark Lord has been brought back and has taken over the Necromongers.
     
  12. Dragonis

    Dragonis First Year

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    That might work, having Harry partner up with Riddick - not a great Riddick fluff/canon dude here but if someone who really knows that universe wants to partner up I'm sure we could figure it out.
     
  13. Lord Apophis

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    In "my universe" so did I figure that Riddick was dead, since the Necromongers belive that "You keep what you kill" should make it rather hard for Voldemort to become the Leader of the Necromongers without killing Riddick, the old leader...
     
  14. Crazy1

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    Unless, of course, Riddick becomes disenchanted with the Necromonger way and abandons them to their own devices...
     
  15. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Necromonger... I hate that fucking name.

    Yeah, and then you change peoples appearance, just because you want Harry to be them, I click the close button. I'd rather him just be himself, not another person. Like Shezza's Stargate crossover. He isn't Daniel Jackson, he's Harry Potter, mother fucker! :D
     
  16. Dragonis

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    The big problem with canon Harry Potter is that he is a little emo, and a lot of people like pushing this side of him which makes me sick. IMO Harry Potter has to be changed in every single story in order for it to not suck, other wise you get a bunch of crying and deus ex machina.
     
  17. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    ...I wonder if Harry would have been an emo goth if he were to live as a muggle?
     
  18. MrINBN

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    No, he'd be a serial killer. You don't suffer 10 years of near-constant abuse and neglect and come out capable of feeling anything other than hate, fear, anger and paranoia. Unless you have magic as a saving grace. I'm willing to bet that if Hagrid hadn't stepped in when he did, Harry would have been insane or murderous by 17 years old.
     
  19. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Aye, which is why dark stories make so much sense, and Rowling pussyifing Harry throughout the entire series just makes him look pathetic.
     
  20. Krull

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    Again, Harry was not abused.

    But I do concur with MrINBN and Mid about the whole Dark fic making more sense.A neglected kid that had no friends for 11 years and lived in a cupboard should not make life long best friends in three hours; When I read the first book, back when I was a kid, I had no problem with this but now that I grew up it's extremely annoying, not to mention that said annoyance only multiplies every time I read an alternate first year that features Golden Trio.


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    :reminisces of the first thread he started on DLP:

    :wonders how the fuck he didn't get banned:
     
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