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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Amerision, May 18, 2006.

  1. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    This one has caught my mind for a while now, but I can't write it.

    It doesn't have to be HBP, but it does require Horcruxes.


    Basically, Harry was Horcrux #7. Lily's protective charm may have kept Harry's body alive, but not his soul - that passed on.

    Riddle knowlingly or unknowingly left a piece of his soul in Harry, his soul ready to split from the double murder of Harry's parents. The soul came along with parseltounge and general appearance from Riddle.

    Time goes on...

    The Scorceror's Stone - The hat knew...

    Chamber of Secrets - By blood, he is Gryffindor, by Soul, Slytherin. That is how he could summon the Gryffindor soul and still speak Parseltounge. Destroying the Diary may have destroyed the Horcrux, but Harry, being another soul fragment, aquired the peice of the soul. Harry is now 2/7 of the original Voldemort soul. This explains the power boost in the third book (Hundred Dementors). Also, how did Harry know to impale the book? These seemingly innocent bouts of luck could be attributed to the former memories of Voldemort.

    Prisoner of Azkaban - How is it Harry is so quick on the uptake on the Patronus? Power Boost...

    Goblet of Fire - Harry beat Voldemort in the Priori Incantatem because he has more of the original Voldemort soul - 2/7 vs. 1/7.

    Order of the Phoenix - How did Harry manage to keep his own against the Inner Circle? The Cruciatus? Whule not correctly cast, he still had the raw power and darkness to try...


    Your Fic - Harry goes Horcrux hunting at some point in time after the 5th book (or 6th). With each destruction, his scar burns and he sees memories, growing stronger with each Horcrx removed.

    What's happening?

    Harry is reabsorbing the pieces of Voldemort's soul, 2/7, 3/7, 4/7, 5, and six. Somewhere along the line, he realizes whats happening.

    Harry Potter never existed.

    There was only Tom Riddle.

    So, set out on reaquiring his wayward soul, (it has gone insane in it's ten year tenure of nothingness, explaining Voldemort's seemingly lack of sanity and grotesque features) he kills Voldemort and becomes him.

    The original Voldemort. The Real One.

    Not some snake faced monster, but a man of true power. With each soul, he gets stronger.

    And then, Harry fully becomes the man that tried to attack Harry Potter at his birth.

    Evil!Harry.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Necrule Paen

    Necrule Paen DLP Elite DLP Supporter

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    Brillant idea, however this should be a Post-OotP or earlier because we need it to be before Dumbledore destroys the ring Horcrux. But yeah I would love it if someone takes this up.
     
  3. MudEye

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    I like the idea...I hope some pick it up and "accidentally" kill ginny
     
  4. Skeletaure

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    It's a very good idea, I hope someone takes it up - the only thing I don't like is him being related to Gryffindor by blood.
     
  5. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Those can easily be rememdied.

    The 16 Year old "Tom" portion of Voldemort's soul could yearn to finish off Ginny...
     
  6. Mrriddler

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    You really can come up with some amazing ideas, Amerision. This is one of those ideas that really has the potential to make a twisted/perverse story. The hero kills anti-hero not only to take his place metaphorically but quite literally. Actual story could be very tricky to write but I daresay it's a wonderful little dark idea.
     
  7. Master Slytherin

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    It's a wondeful idea and had I not been otherwise preoccupied I definitely would have taken it up. In fact, if no one takes it up for several weeks, I might consider it. A true gem Amerision.

    Repped.
     
  8. Cervus

    Cervus Raptured to Hell

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    It is an excellent idea. I too would have loved to write this if I wasn't already spending most of my time writing my new fic. I'm looking forward to reading this if someone picks it up, it's too good of an idea not to be written.
     
  9. BlueMagikMarker

    BlueMagikMarker Pirate King Yarrgh's First Mate

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    I've read something similar to this at Portkey... (shut up) Except it wasn't Evil!Harry. In this story, which takes place after HBP, Harry gets stronger after each Horcrux he destroys because he is the final one. I think this is the fic (Magic Never Dies), but I don't have the time to go back and read it right now. I, personally, though it was good... but some of you may be turned off by many aspects of it.
    Edit: Though, I suppose that it differs enough from your challenge for it to still be an original story if somebody writes it.
     
  10. KANE

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    Thought the idea was excellent, probably won't take it up 'cause i want to have written at least one with my own plot in it. Have to say evil!harry s aren't really my preference (i usually hate them actually) but i must say i am intrugued...
     
  11. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Yes! Got a Senior writer to consider it!

    This was the original plot line for Temptations by the way, but I took it out because at the time I couldn't come up with explanations for the books.

    Something I feel the writer should do is keep Harry's name during the writing of the story. Once you call him something else, the character that killed the Basilisk, duelled the Dark Lord, and surives the killing curse dissapears.

    You could refer to the primary souls as "Harry", "Tom" (16 year old), "Voldemort".
     
  12. ip82

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    I just don't understand this ending.

    What do you mean "the real Voldemort"?

    And this: "Harry fully becomes the man that tried to attack Harry Potter at his birth." As far as I know, Voldemort already had his soul split at the moment of that attack, so he wasn't exactly "the real Voldemort" (if the criteria is possesion of a whole soul).

    The idea has potential, but I don't understand completely this "real Voldemort - Harry never existed" buisiness...
     
  13. Cervus

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    I think what he means, is that when Voldemort cast the killing curse on Harry, Harry's soul was destroyed. Instead of his own soul Harry ended up with 1/7 of Voldemort's soul, thus being turned into the seventh Horcrux. As Harry destroys more and more of the Horcruxes the fragments of soul that they contained are transported to Harry's body, thus over time the soul of Lord Voldemort gets more and more complete, only instead of the soul being in Lord Voldemort's body it is instead being reconstructed in the place that Harry's own soul should be. I presume that the 'real Lord Voldemort' comment is about when Voldemort's soul is once again complete and Harry has the whole of it within him.

    This is just my take on it, Amerision might have had something completely different in mind.
     
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  14. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Hmm, well here is my interpretation - feel free to make your own, this one probably isn't very good.

    Lord Voldemort the Original, the one that attacked Harry Potter on Halloween night, was one soul split into 6 pieces. He was born of one soul, and his power comes from the six individual pieces.

    When he made Harry into a Horcrux (knowingly or Unknowingly), the soul fragment in his body split.

    Harry's body became inhabited with 1/2 of the primary soul fragment of Lord Voldemort, while the other half was turned into a spirit.

    Now, when LV returns, he is born of 1/2 of the original soul - meaning that he is only part of the original Lord Voldemort, Harry being the other half.

    However, just being born of a part of a soul makes you different than if you were born of the whole soul.

    The New Voldemort, being born of half of a 1/6th of a soul, is not the same original Lord Voldemort, but rather just a piece of him.

    He and Harry both draw on the other Horcruxes, being linked to them.

    Thus, it stands that the one with the most soul fragments integrated into themselves would be closer to the original Lord Voldemort.

    Once Harry reunites himself with the other soul fragments besides Neo-Voldie himself, Harry would 6.5/7 of the original Voldemort.

    Now, we all know the original Lord Voldemort was 10x more powerful and badass than the new one. The new Voldemort doesn't do much more than sit on his throne and crucio people all day, and needing 3 months of recovery from a single duel with Dumbledore.

    This could also be the reason one has to defeat the other - no one can kill them with their horcruxes.

    Feel Free to Improvise.
     
  15. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    Absolutely brilliant idea, IMHO! If anyone takes this up, and does it justice to the excellent idea that you have thought up, it would definitely be an awesome story.

    Kudos for such a smart idea...even if I interpreted it like Cervus did.
     
  16. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Cupspeaker Looked into the void

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    I would offer, but I am not a good or expierenced writer so I would just ruin it. Just don\'t let trident see this.
     
  18. Sepanto

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    I will try to write it, but no promises, it seems like i am FAR streching my abilities.
     
  19. Crazy1

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    I would so love to write this, but I'm afraid that, due to extentuating circumstances (in other words my laziness :D) I doubt I'll write it. Besides I have a great idea for a B:TVS/SGA crossover.
     
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  20. Yarrgh!

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    Bloody excellent idea. I REALLY want to write this one...i can imagine it now. Fuck.

    I have Chimera and Incubus, though, and Sepanto already took you up on it.

    Aaaaagh!!! So good! Hulk smash!

    Okay...when i finish chimera and incubus, i will make an attempt at this. Oh man, it would be awesome.

    gah! You win, Amerision.
     
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