I can't speak for the poster, but reading six books and having seen movies, I'd say it's possible to guess huge parts of the book from the movie.

So, if the movie is seen as complete shit with utter bollocks as ending, the book might be better, but still complete shit with utter bollocks ending.

I don't think so, personally, but it's obviously stupid to act as if the book and its plot is some great mystery.

 

That's the only thing that'd get me back in. Dunno if I'd care if it was still set in Europe though.

 

Watched the movie, genius.It's not that fucking hard to reason that the book is just as stupid as the movie is in plot ideas. It's just as terrible. Book 6 was bad enough with the shitty romance because JKR can't write teenage characters for beans.

Edit: I only watched movies 1-3 and movie 7. I'll never watch any other HP movies again. I hated the fact that they changed Harry getting Sirius' broom at the END of book 3 in the movie, instead of him getting it near the middle. Just plain fucking stupidity. It makes zero sense to change that plot point, and no idea why the fuck they'd do that kind of stupidity.

 

I'm pretty content remembering the books as a series I grew up with, and not having it try and adapt to my adult self.

 

I guess the reactions shown in this thread towards the last few books are understandable, and a pretty good argument for Rowling getting out of the series.

It was a saga very easy to love at the beginning, the characters were young and full of potential and choices. Like a newborn baby they could do whatever the hell they wanted to be, and a step in what we thought a bad direction was, was easily corrected.

I guess that's the main reason why most of hp fanfiction start their divergence after books 4,5,6 or 7. We started to dislike (and some people even hate) the direction jk was taking with the characters. Some people expected Harry to be an amazing overpowered wizard, dating hermione or Fleur, rebelling against authority... Having children with their names on the "list of most common first names in the uk"

That's probably why it was a great idea to wrap up the story the way she did. Keeping it going means trying to fulfill multiple and absurd expectations we all have for the series.

I even think the live action play, and the movie spin off are very bad ideas. The first will show the life of an older Harry Potter that will not be the one we have on our heads. He'll be to adventurous and fans will moan that he deserves a quiet life, or to dull and people will scream that she ruined the vision of a badass middle aged Harry. Or she'll say hermione is actually black an people will lose their fucking minds

Leave it Joanne, go write something else, I like my potter the way he's now thank you

 

I would love something set in Dumbledore's earlier years, and the whole she-bang with Grindelwald. Other than that, a series following an older Harry around as he takes on Auror cases would be immense fun.

I feel like anything involving the newer generation (the kids) wouldn't hold nearly the same allure or fun factor as did Harry's school years, but unlike some I'm not opposed to reading anything she puts out.

 

To be fair, while Heroes of Olympus was disappointing, the upcoming Trials of Apollo book does look to be fairly interesting. I like the idea of a god, or at least, a former god, as a protagonist, plus I actually enjoyed the excerpt for the story. Also apparently Rick Roidian says the book and its four sequels are suppose to be the last of the Percy Jackson related series and it's suppose to cap off the series as a whole.

 

Do you see the problem here?

 

The highlighted portion you've selected to turn the point into a question of sexuality?

Yuh. I see the problem.

 

I believe the events of the Harry Potter universe overtook the characters in the last few books. Where, so much was going on that the trio had no control over that the characters themselves had only enough room to react and not to grow. So when Voldemort was finally defeated, Harry remained still wholly unprepared for normal life, and I am disappointed that the author was never able to address the fact that post war, things are still Really messed up and according to the 19 years later epilogue, these social injustices that fostered the environment for Voldemort were never corrected.

While I believe the Horcruxes were a necessary part of the trilogy, I think the addition of the deathly hollows in the last book were a bit much and feel like they were forced into the story in order to Get To The End as opposed to coming to a conclusion.

This, combined with my own little pet peeve: where giving birth to a child conceived with a love potion Creates A Child Without The Ability To Love, that the powerful love potions remove someone's free will in the likes of the Imperious curse.....But, love potions are not only Legal, but powerful ones are being sold to teenagers by teenagers kind of breaks the universe for me a bit. If love potions caused as much damage as they did in canon but were as available as they were in cannon, Love would be something more wizards than Tom Riddle would have been without. By making Voldemort someone who could not help but be evil, JK took away the beauty of a character who used to be a human driven by personal goals and circumstances that could be empathized with into something one dimensional and boring.

The arching story is something that I appreciate and and generally happy with, but the specificities of last book is Hard to Justify in the universe and it makes me worried that if JK were to dive back into the HP universe she would leave it even more broken.

 

I always did think there was too much untapped potential in the HP world. New spells, ancient relics, magical creatures, different magical societies, etc. there's a lot JKR could do in the future.

 

Half Blood Prince - Snape's spellbook.

Deathly Hallows/Founders Items.

Veela, Centaurs, Merfolk, Dragons, etc.

Was that not the point of The Triwizard Tournament? Regardless, the series is set in Hogwarts, how would other magical societies be brought in?

 

You aren't excited for the potential of more spells, relics, and creatures existing throughout the HP world?

And I know the Harry Potter books are centered around Hogwarts, but that's irrelevant. The author still hasn't shown other regions with different cultures/magics; AKA untapped potential. I really can't see how someone can make an argument from my post.

 

The best thing about Harry Potter was it's simplicity. It wasn't like Lord of The Rings where if you blinked for even a second you'll miss a whole species (Nothing against LotR). It wasn't like Star Wars where every single character had some intricate backstory that you needed to know to enjoy it fully (Nothing against SW).

While I have some complaints for Harry as a character (But not as a protagonist strangely enough) he (And everything about the books as a whole) is supposed to be relateable. Unlike Naruto who can't beat anyone without receiving a gift wrapped power-up Harry is kind of your everyday hero. With a little bit adjustment, he could be considered the wizarding Spider-Man.

When we look at the Ministry of Magic we're meant to see our own government, failings and all. When we look at Fudge we're meant to see that one politician we think is corrupt. When we look at Hogwarts we're supposed to see our own school. When we look at Snape we're meant to see that one teacher in school that always calls on us to answer a question we don't know. When we look at Umbridge we're meant to see that one teacher we think has it in for us.

The point I'm trying to make is that it would be near impossible to do the kinds of things you want without making hem completely unrelateable.

 

What are you talking about? None of the original movies were released when backstory was available, and few even of the prequels (except Grevious and RotS, I suppose).

And most of the various EU producers didn't care what had happened in other parts of the EU, especially those writing before New Jedi Order. That's the best argument for scrapping the EU, really, is the shocking inconsistency surrounding it. Karen Miller's Republic Commando series feature a wildly different Mandalore from The Clone Wars. Literally everything The Thrawn Trilogy has to say on cloning is ignored in the prequels. Most books introduce an alien species or two, and you'll be lucky if you ever hear of them again. Order 66 killed off 99% of all Jedi, except we know of at least twice that number who survived. The Sith Rule of Two is a massive thing, and allowed them to pass unnoticed for a thousand years...except the whole time there was an entire planet of Sith just waiting around.

And so on.

 

Here's the thing, I don't think their should be any more HARRY POTTER books. Next gen is a maybe, and hell... I would have fun with them like I'm having with the new star wars. The thing is, despite my resistance to more HP, I kind of want more in the universe of HP. I'm going to love the fantastical beasts series, I just know it, and I know that if I could get anything more in the series I would love to learn more about the world. This is why I want to write fan-fiction, not because I want to go into a what if or anything else but because I want to really explore the rest of the world.

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Here's the one thing, I would love something similar to the SW EU for HP... But I would want it to realy be structured, for ever person who wrote to be able to have a good continuity, because that is one thing I love about at least main line Marvel and the like.

 

... I would not read. I enjoyed each of the books on their own (expect 6) but as a whole the series leaves me.. annoyed. And whenever I hear or see a quote by JRK about the HP series I feel like breaking things.