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Incest: Lily/Harry and Co.

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Zeitgeist, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    It's already too late.
     
  2. Zeitgeist

    Zeitgeist High Inquisitor

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    Witty but juvenile and nitpicky, along the lines of responding to "can I ask you one question?" with "you just did".

    But you have a valid point, which makes me face-palm even more...

    All I can say is that when I created this thread, I never expected the discussion to divert into a conversation about the supposed "posibilities" of irl m-preg. That's all I can say at the moment.

    Bloody hell.

    EDIT: Oh, and before I get ninja'd, yeahyeah, I was "random butthurt" over incest, as some people have described. And yeah, I basically made this thread to investigate if my deterrence was the norm. Yeah, now I realise that this is the internet and that everybody has their own little fetishes to prompt their soldiers to salute.

    Godwin's Law suggests that Nazis would be eventually mentioned in an argument. I just didn't think that they would mentioned this soon, and in such close proximity to sudden references to m-preg, out of all things.

    I probably won't get much support for this post, but that is my honest opinion. I'm sorry if my thread had inadvertently created a breeding ground for festering, bad posts. You guys didn't need to be subject to things like discussions about m-preg.

    DLP deserves better.

    Now somebody swoop in with an acerbic one-liner which may be insulting and/or garners a shitload of thumbs-up, before it's too late.
     
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  3. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    Actually, I'd rather talk more about mpreg.
     
  4. El Duderino

    El Duderino Groundskeeper

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    Amen to that.
     
  5. T3t

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  6. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    I think there was already a case of male pregnancy.

    It didn't involve magic.
     
  7. Scrib

    Scrib The Chosen One

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    Either we've lost it or someone's very lost...
     
  8. Ray

    Ray Second Year

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    No, that was some whackjob woman who got a sex change to "turn into a man", and then I think artificially inseminated herself (himself? itself?) to create a "male pregnancy". Seriously fucked up stuff.

    ...I really don't get transexuals. You cut off your hand on purpose, you get carted off to a mental institution. But you cut off your dick on purpose, and all of a sudden you're a "free spirit", unconstrained by "antiquated notions of gender". What the fuck.
     
  9. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Thumbs down.

    Anyway, the situations are clearly not analogous. A transsexual doesn't just chop their genitalia off. They see a doctor first, have to go through all sorts of psychological testing to make sure that they're genuinely transsexual, then have a surgery done by trained professionals which doesn't just cut stuff off but also remodels. Male to female operations are very sophisticated these days. I believe it's entirely possible for a post-op male to female transsexual to have an orgasm.

    A more analogous situation would be a professional athlete having a limb removed and replaced with a superior prosthetic.

    As for gender, it has been found that the brain chemistry of transsexuals is measurably different to that of the majority of their sex, so I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss it as just a liberal game.
     
  10. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    What Taure said. Your gender self-identity is usually the same as that of your physical gender, but not always.
     
  11. ViolentRed

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    Just a small summary of topics touched upon in this thread.

    Page 1: Incest
    Page 2: Threecest
    Page 3: Pottercest
    Page 4: Susan Boned
    Page 5: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
    Page 6: Selective breeding
    Page 7: Godwin's Law
    Page 8: M-Preg
    Page 9: Transsexuals

    Aaah, DLP.

    We should put a link to this thread in the introductiory PM to new members.
     
  12. Thaumologist

    Thaumologist Fifth Year ~ Prestige ~

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    I know a trans-woman (and am related to a post-op trans-man). And the way people are so usually wrong about gender-identity astounds me. A transexual literally believes their body, their DNA, is wrong. The trans-woman (who lives in a strongly religious family), is intensely unhappy, because he (the person prefers physical and not mental pronouns [as opposed to the majority], so as to keep his family in the dark) cannot be who he feels he is without alienating his family. On top of that, he's a lesbian (Oh god, it's getting confusing!), which then makes most people assume he is actually just really fucking confused.

    But he really is a woman. This is the thing that amazes me. Whilst I know internet crap isn't always reliable, give him any gender ID test, he turns out female. His thought processes (when he explains them) are much closer to female friends than male friends, and he only came out about this to his friends within the last six months, so it isn't that we've always treated him as a girl - he's always (and still is) one of the guys.

    Before he figured out what was 'wrong', all he knew was his body made him unhappy. So he spent stupid hours in the gym, pool, and running track, trying to reach peak physical body. It took a psychiatrist (about four years back) to realise what the problem was.

    Also, a link, to a discussion board about the brain in homo/heterosexuals of both genders (couldn't find the original article, their link is broken). Not completely related, but on a similar note - a the brain of a lesbian is more likely to appear as the brain of a straight man than a straight woman, and same for gay men.

    EDIT

    Whilst that link is only to the discussion board, here's one that is more based on the true things, not just a group of internetters.
     
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  13. Little Knee

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    You're all so fucked up. I hope you all die painful, horrible death.

    ...on the other hand, I visit this thread everyday. Just saying.
     
  14. El Duderino

    El Duderino Groundskeeper

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    At least you're honest in your sort of hypocrisy.
     
  15. Kaz Hirai

    Kaz Hirai Squib

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    Excuse me sir, but the mere "chopping off" of genitals doesn't accurately describe sex reassignment therapy, which is really more about convincingly altering the subject's physical characteristics to construct an appearance that reflects their psychological gender identity. What you're talking about is really closer to "castration" (removal or functional destruction of testes) or "nullification" (total removal of external genitalia) fetish stuff, which no doubt also exists in the Harry Potter fandom.

    But between who, I wonder. Is it an exclusively Harry/Voldie thing, or is it finally Madame Pomfrey's time to shine?
     
  16. Tehan

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    Taure already more-than-adequately responded to the post in question. There was absolutely no need for you to chime in almost a week later with your faux-polite PC bullshit.

    And, to set the record straight, male genital removal falls almost exclusively under the auspices of the extreme fringes of the female domination ('femdom') subculture. It may also have some popularity among the equally extreme fringes of cock-and-ball torture (CBT) community, but the fact that it precludes any further torture to the body parts in question (or, for that matter, anything else) as well as leads to some very awkward questions in the ER after usually leaves it in the realm of fantasy only, with simulated castration (banding, infibulation, and the like) being much more popular. And note that CBT is (as far as I can tell) largely heterosexual, which can lead to the argument that it could fall under the wider femdom umbrella.

    So no. It's not Harry/Voldemort. The most appropriate candidates I could think of for this particular kink is Bellatrix/Harry, and I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the majority of DLP wants nothing to do with that story.

    (for those playing along at home, a bonus question: I vaguely remember reading an article (possibly probably on BMEzine) about really extreme testicle play - actually removing the testicles from the scrotum and then replacing them, with (if done correctly) no long-term repurcussions - and was going to mention it, but couldn't find it and aren't entirely sure whether it fell, motive-wise, inside the bailiwick of CBT. If anyone here can set the record straight, please chime in)

    (Oh, and just to be clear, the vast majority of members of the femdom and CBT communities practice only safe and well-researched sexual acts under controlled conditions with partners that fully consent to said acts. Those that would actually cut off some dude's dick are reviled by most of those communities, and rightly so.)
     
  17. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Come in expecting a good, healthy discussion of Harry banging his mom, walk out educated on the finer practices of CBT and in some degree m-preg.

    DLP, you are a very, very strange mistress indeed.
     
  18. Blaise

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    HOW IS THIS DERPY THREAD STILL ALIVE. WAT.
     
  19. El Duderino

    El Duderino Groundskeeper

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    I blame society.
     
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    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    Because God hates you, Blaise. :nyan:
     
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