... stop it raven... you are annoying the government... theyll arrest you! >_<


.... as for my opinion....


well to keep the site open to kids ill cut out the rant and simply say this...

one step closer to the government charging you to breathe,,,

 

There's also the matter of whether it's constitutional, which far as I can tell, should not be. People arrested under this tidbit would probably sue the US and overturn the law...at some point since it's completely ludicrous. But then, I can't be sure now. Especially if the Bush's hand picked man, Alito takes O'Connor's place on the Supreme Court.

 

fuck... the state of the union is just... apalling...

boy am i glad to be in japan...

 

Man, my parents would never move out of country. I'm stuck here until I get out of college. Maybe i'll move to Canada with Raven. No, I'll head over to...to, how about I go and live in the middle of Africa. Or Antarctica when they finally start building houses there.

 

Oh cookies *Jumps up and down like an hyper kid*... I love cookies

This whole law sounds slightly ridiculous if you ask me. Whats stopping you from giving a false name anyway? It's not like the person your flaming can check for ID.

 

Yeah, John is Bush's lapdog lately. I can't wait till he loses the election.

Though Labor is really unstable these days, they can't seem to find a leader.

At the moment, Johnny is the lesser of two evils I think.

 

I know I SHOULD care about this issue and get upset, but frankly I just can't get myself all worked up over it. I just look at it as politics as usual.

 

Politics?

They're raping your First Amendment.

 

And believe me, I don't like it. I've just come to EXPECT it. It sucks, but I am COMPLETELY unsurprised.

 

Yes, at the rate the US's freedoms are going, there'll be a revolution in a century or less.

 

Agreed, and people like me will probably be the ones leading it.

The unjust assaults on our civil liberties have gone to far and it will not stand; to quote Rousseau "Man was born free yet everywhere he is in chains." Now more than ever we are at risk to reverting to an era in the USA when this statement was true.

We have a country whose leader adopts a "Just do it" style of government....

The bypassing of the FISA courts
The USA Patriot Act
The Monitoring of Private anti-War Groups by the Military
The unlawful detention of both US and International Citizens in Guantanamo Bay

The list goes on.

It is the duty of the people to follow just laws and just laws only according to the principles upon which this nation was founded, furthermore it is the duty of the populace to rise up against unjust ones.

Ben Franklin Once Wrote "Those that would sacrifice freedom for little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The statement still rings true to this day.

In conclusion

FUCK YOU GEORGE W. BUSH!!! TRY AND ARREST ME DAMMIT!!! JUST SO I CAN SUE YOUR ASS FOR UNLAWFUL AND ILLEGAL DETENTION.

*Angry rant yes* However to be fair there was a reason for it. Today I had the regional for the We The people competition; its a national thing... My group killed, mainly because I was able to quote a ridiculous amount of political philosophy (our topic was "What is the Spirit of Law.")

Who would have known that reading everything from Plato to Rousseau would have come in useful?

 

Good job.

I also hear they're thinking of imposing new gun control laws?

 

being allowed to carry concealed weapons..i think

 

That makes little sense - there aren't concealed carry laws in very many states to begin with. Unfortunately.

 

Ok now that I have calmed down I have this to say.

Mr. Bush I would like you to suck my dick.

You damned silly sodding stupid scum-sucking wanker. I hope that you get molested by Jacko.

And your face resembles that of a Chimpanzee.

You hear that Chimp Man?

*breaks out Cell Phone*
*calls up ACLU*
"Yo, I got a test case for your asses."

 

This law doesn't matter. Not only is it completely empty, useless, and uninforcable, but soon, liberals and libertarians alike will be screaming -- they already are. And nobody likes a screaming liberal. They're fucking annoying. The offending paragraph will be scratched out, and then all you fellows who're threatening emptily to move to Canada will drink a beer and think self-righteously, My whining made a difference -- which it didn't. By the way, that's really annoying when you people do that. You're not moving to Canada, and you're not going to lead a revolution to "liberate" a country that's already among the most free in the world. Stop saying you are, because you're not, and it's fucking annoying.

Giovanni, I hate to say it, but this isn't the time nor place to campaign for women's rights, which it sounds like you're doing when you say things like The unjust assaults on our civil liberties have gone to far and it will not stand; to quote Rousseau "Man was born free yet everywhere he is in chains." Your bra isn't a cage, and neither is a stupid little paragraph in a stupid, useless law, which will never be inforced anyway.

I'll say this one more time, in case any of you missed it: the law doesn't mean anything. No one will ever be brought up before a court for "cyberstalking," or whatever the heck they called it. NO ONE will EVER be harmed by this law. At the VERY worst, it'll just be a few wasted tax dollars when some dumbass from Massachusetts with a blond mullet brings it upon himself to fight the man and whine about civil rights.

I should also point out that I'm a Democrat with some slightly out-of-place Libertarian tendancies. I'm the first person to be pissed off when someone threatens my Constitutional rights with some nosy Big Brother crap. But this isn't a threat at all, and you all need to chill out. This is just, as someone said earlier, politics as usual.



Gio, the bit about the fem rights was just humor. No offence meant. (I'm saying this because people here don't seem to be able to tell when I'm being sarcastic and when I'm being serious apart, and I didn't want to just throw on a smiley face like Lord Ravenclaw, I believe, suggested a few months ago. Smilies are annoying and should be a felony.).

 

I think their point is that they passed it. It's about the principle (I think).

It doesn't matter if no-one will be charged for it, they shouldn't have introduced that silly law.

 

My moving to Canada isn't an idle threat; most of the colleges I am considering are up there.

The fact is, any student of history will tell you that when people stop caring about the freedoms they take for granted, said freedoms will be quickly stripped away.

And I stand by my angry rant; yeah a bit extreme, but I stand by every word in it.

Now the law may be toothless, however the precedent it sets is not, and we are a country BUILT around precedent. Precedent is how Justice Roberts made it through confirmation without even once giving a personal view or opinion. Precedent is why "separate but equal" took so long to overturn. And precedent is why we fight the little battles to save ourselves from bigger ones later on.

The very fact that a law such as this could be passed speaks poorly of not only our legislative process, but of our democracy as a whole.

And yes as a matter of fact I have read said law. Thats why I am concerned about it.

I was also one of the people who read the entire USA Patriot Act when it was first passed. . . I even looked up all the ammendments it made to other laws. Took me 3 weeks of highlighting but I wrote an article about it for my school paper. An article that didn't get published because of a conservative pro-Bush faculty advisor.

 

That's actually pretty disturbing. Did you at least try submitting it to a local or regional paper? But then, I lived in the north at the time. All the secondary/high school educational institutions were pretty much solidly left of center.