Wow that was a confusing read. I really miss all the action. But really, Custer's whole claiming two different things is the most suspicious thing I see. If you were town, why would you do that? And a knight would not reveal themselves for the reason he did in my opinion.. Also, his "I'm a replacement" excuse makes absolutely zero sense to me. I'm going to have to go with him for now, and then re read everyones number conclusions to pick who else I think could be scum.

Deadline Vote: Custer

 

What was post 993 about Azira?

I couldn't follow it at all.

The people who I feel are most suspicious based on all the scenarios that I've calculated are: Krogan and Moridin

While I feel they're both scum, I'm going to vote for Moridin because Krogan was auctioned by the Red Duchess which makes him slightly less suspicious. And Krogan's been far more active and helpful.

Deadline: Moridin

 

Deadline lynch vote: Krogan

If you need an explanation as to why, you should read the thread.

 

All I can say without a roleclaim is that one of your assumptions (maybe two) are wrong.

So I wouldn't be too sure of your plan here.

Apart from that I don't understand a single word of it.

 

Oops.

rescind vote
Deadline lynch vote: Krogan

Forgot to rescind my vote on Klackerz.

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Also, I'd appreciate Riley confirming that Sneak's results are correct, especially after they were already incorrect in the case of Moridin.

 

Who's plan Castiel?

If it's that Zennith isn't scum, that doesn't matter. Him and Mishie are interchangeable.

 

Am I missing something or how do we now that Zennith is confirmed scum?
Vesvius said that the kill Zennith supposedly survived was actually survived by him? So was there any more evidence I don't remember?

Also if Vesvius gives us Nicodemius would it not be better to let the knights take care of him, because it is almost certain that she knows who Namshiel is, if not also Tessariel.

Now on to the number crunching.

On the day one, when there are were 11/12 scum votes.
The ones who didn't vote were these:
Jwlk(Custer)
Gambit
Klackerz
Duke
Jeram.
With Duke and Jeram already dead and not even posting once in that day. I think if they were scum they would have participated, atl east in Jeram's case. I admit that Duke could be the scum, because he had not been online for some days if I remeber correctly. But it seems more likely that one of the remaining 3 is scum.

If custer is scum, that would mean that Gambit and Klack are not, which means that there were already at least 3 scums dead in the list of Zennith, Duke, Jeram, Mishie.

And then that means that Kalas ,Vesvius, Moridin are all scum. Obviously this does not work, so maybe, just maybe, looking through this did I prove Custer to be town? Because if Jeram or Duke is scum, then he is automatically town.

Okay I will try to think more. If this thing was a bust about Custer then please say so, I won't do this again.

Yeah and all this info comes from Sniektiefs list, I just didn't explain it everywhere.

 

...because Zennith ADMITTED IN A POST THAT HE WAS SCUM.

Anyone who thinks Zennith isn't confirmed scum is a complete moron who hasn't been reading this thread.

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You didn't prove anything. You yourself said Duke and Jeram could both easily be town.

"But it seems more likely that one of the remaining 3 is scum."

 

If Custer is scum, why did he clear Ashaya as a Denarian?

That makes me suspicious of her.

 

As far as I can see it, these are our two options.

1. If Mishie, Zennith and (Duke OR Jeram) were all scum:

Gambit, Klackerz and Custer = Town

All of Krogan, Vesvius and Kalas = Scum



2. Mishie and Zennith = Scum (Duke and Jeram not)

If (Gambit OR Klack) is scum, all of Kalas, Vesvius, and Krogan are scum.

Damn you Sneakthief. The vote tallys you posted really screwed me up.

 

To make himself seem town, by clearing someone who we've all come to believe (obviously could be mistaken, but its a low probability the way things have unfolded) is who she roleclaimed to be.

Which was idiotic, because clearing Ashaya from not being a Denarian doesn't clear her from not being any other kind of scum, which was why the role claim by Custer is a huge scummy move, he'd know as a town that claiming knight is stupendously dumb just to clear Ashaya. It came off to me a desperate scum move so that we'd temporarily dismiss him as town and focus on other people.

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@Eternity Lost: Which is why we lynch Krogan today.

 

2. b) Custer being scum doesn't work

Sorry Moridin. I forgot you voted and the vote tallys were wrong.

Rescind Vote

Deadline: Krogan


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Sorry, I derped because I was using Sneakthief's original post where he had Moridin down as not voting.

 

Well if they are town, then in the case Custer was scum, both Klack and Ollie are not. If you then look to the other part of Sniektiefs list you see them both in the list of
No votes:
Gambit (CommanderBond)
klackerz
Kalas
Vesvius
Moridin

6 people were scum in this list plus the dead ones. Only people dead at that moment were Zennith, mishie, Duke and Jeram. Seeing that there are only 3 potential scums in the non-voters it means that there has to be 3 in the dead ones. But in the case of Custer being scum, Jeram and Duke are not.
So it does not work. Custer is town. Or I am missing something big.

 

Custer is town, if we believe Sneakthief.

 

And if we then take Moridin out of the non-voters it still means that Custer is town.

 

So if Custer is town, we're back to one of:

Jeram
Duke
Gambit
Klackerz

as scum. I think Klackerz is unlikely to be scum, while we can't really tell about Duke/Jeram.

This leaves Gambit as roughly 1/3 of a chance at being scum, probably closer to 1/2 because of his play so far.

 

Didn't he already say this?

So on the first day, 24 voted, of whom 11 were guilty. 5 people didn't vote (Jwlk/Custer, Gambit, Duke, Jeram, Klackerz), of whom one was guilty.

Third day, 19 voted (including me as one who voted) of whom 6 were guilty, and 5 people didn't vote(Gambit, Klackerz, Kalas, Vesvius, Krogan).

At that point, we had Duke, Jeram, mishie, Zennith dead (right?).

So totally, these people didn't vote on the third day: Gambit, Klackerz, Kalas, Vesvius, Krogan, Duke, Jeram, mishie, Zennith

So the 6 who didn't vote are part of that 9.

Only one of Jwlk, Gambit, Duke, Jeram and Klackerz are scum.

So for the 6 scum who didn't vote, we have Gambit OR Duke OR Jeram OR Klackerz, Kalas, Vesvius, Krogan, mishie, Zennith.

I'm sure I've made a stupid mistake somewhere but I can't find it, can someone tell me why that's wrong? The numbers don't add up to 29 players.

Checking the playerlist, who the hell is quiljons? He's in the livelist in Riley's first post, but not in any voting lists or Sneakthief's data. I think he's the discrepancy.

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Never mind, that's probably just a miswriting of guljons. >_<

Who's the missing one? Sneakthief's data for Kalas' lynching has 24 players, but I can only find four deaths up to that point.

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Dhulli. Sneakthief's data for Kalas' lynching doesn't have dhulli in it.

 

Krogan. He was auctioned off.

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Dhulli. Damn. Forgot about him.

 

GUYS.

In Riley's post here, he is missing dhulli. Counting dhulli and Krogan as both live players, there are 25 in all, right? (No, seriously, check this. Duke, Jeram, mishie, Zennith dead. Who else?)

I think this clearly shows there are 24 players alive. That's one less than we counted.

Either Riley made a mistake counting, or Krogan really did die, which makes him Dracula.

 

Okay so if Custer has to be town by all the maths logic, then my suspicions of him were very off, so

Rescind Vote

And continuing with the maths logic instead of suspicions,
Deadline Vote: Krogan