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Investigations into Chicago (Dresden Mafia) Day 1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Snowflake

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    That's understandable, and I guess the Thorned Namshiel could be dead. But when you get back, could you at least tell us which players you offered a coin to?
     
  2. Speakers

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    Taking in light Castiel's new info. Mishie was town. I'm assuming Custer is knight as confirmed. Assuming Krogan, Zennith as confirmed scum. Then we have


    1 scum from:
    1. Gambit
    2. klackerz
    3. Duke
    4. Jeram

    Now we have two cases. Let's call these cases List A
    1. One of Gambit or klackerz is scum
    2. One of Duke or Jeram is scum

    We know Krogan's Dracula and was dead when the second list was made. SO:
    • 6/12 scum voted
    • Krogan(scum) was dead
    • Zennith(scum) was dead
    • If (1) from List A: 4/12 scum are in the second list that did not vote
    • If (2) from List A: 3/12 scum are in the second list that did not vote.


    Now let's narrow this list down further with Castiel's info. We have Kalas as scum. Vesvius as Erlking.

    Here are the final cases:
    1. If (1) from List A: 2/12 scum from second list: me and one of (Gambit and Klackerz)
    2. If (2) From List A: 1/12 scum from second list: me

    OK WTF?!? I'm town. This either means Riley messed up somewhere or Custer is scum. I'm leaning towards Custer being scum. o_O
     
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  3. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    So... You just proved yourself as scum?
     
  4. Speakers

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    I proved that with the current data available. I am mathematically scum. So either Custer is lying, Castiel is lying, Riley messed up OR I'm scum. I thought I'd put it all forward since I'm town! I'll roleclaim if need be but me roleclaiming would be detrimental to town.
     
  5. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I guess Custer lying isn't a very farfetched theory. He claimed two different roles, both of which are unproveable.

    I'm also going to ask Zenzao to reveal his St Giles counterpart to help us narrow the scum down.
     
  6. Snowflake

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    LOL dhulli.

    I believe Custer's roleclaim and he was proven to be town mathematically yesterday. So now we're left with Castiel is lying or you're scum....(Or Riley messed up, but then he already double checked his numbers. It's still possible, though) I sorta do believe Castiel's roleclaim...:/
     
  7. Speakers

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    How was Custer proven to be mathematically town?
     
  8. Azira

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    Wasn't Custer town only if all of Zennith Mishie Kalas vesvius and someone else scum?

    If you're going by Castiels data then the conclusion is invalid.
     
  9. Snowflake

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    I actually have no idea, I just remember reading it somewhere in the thread. :/

    I really don't see how Custer could've made his QT up though. Maybe we could get one of the other knights to step up since Nicodemus is gone? (Or would that be unwise?)
     
  10. Speakers

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    If Custer is scum. He's the scum in list 1.
    That means 3/12 scum in list 2 (excluding custer, Gambit and Klackerz): I still come out as scum.

    Again: WTF Riley? So either Castiel is lying or I'm scum (regardless of Custer's allegiance)
     
  11. Azira

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    This is either the weirdest scum tactic ever or dhulli is genuinely town.

    Dhulli, I think you need to roleclaim :/ not liking everyone claiming but there truly is so little scum left that completely claiming might win us the game today already... Any thoughts?
     
  12. LochNess

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    Aziraphale, I guess I'll let you know that I am the other member of St. Giles, Zenzao can verify that when he comes on.
     
  13. Azira

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    Also, we still have foothill alive as seen by Vesviuss purification.
     
  14. Fishy Justice

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    I need three nights between checks. The check being on the third night. I survived tonight, sort of guessed that, but I would need to be protected two more nights.

    Riley worded it wrong, should read "two nights between" instead of "every two nights." Just clearer that way. If it were every two nights I wouldn't have revealed until I had at least three batches.

    But as I thought, every faction of scum is in a bad-ish place right now. I have a feeling they ate each other a bit, on top of us hitting them.


    Honestly Dhulli doesn't come off to me as scum, though he could be. I mean, anyone could figure out that the math landed him as scum. It would make sense to come to the conclusion yourself and hope it's looked on as playing honestly. But I'll let Riley speak, and there are other targets today.

    And eh, I understand the kill on Ash, but I was still interested in what results she was going to cough up.
     
  15. Castiel

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    dhulli, I don't really understand any of your calculations, so sorry but I can not help there. All I know is whatever I said is true.
     
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    Dhulli is town, cas is most likely town, klackerz is almost certainly scum (Red King is the going theory) and Krogan is hopefully Dracula. I think we should lynch Krogan in case he Mina Harker'd a bunch bunch of us over the the last five nights.

    Lynch Vote: Krogan
     
  17. Azira

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    Krogan can only taint one person a night. He has at max 6 votes at his disposal, depending on if he got one in the night he died, and some of his taint targets might be dead. Also when he uses his power to comandeer votes his taint count is reset to zero.

    We really don't need to lynch him at all, particularly not when we aren't sure if Mavra is dead. In fact he is pretty much the scum we can leave for last.

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    Actually didn't klackerz claim John stallings? We can lynch him and if it's true he'll survive and if he dies, he was scum. I like that plan better.

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Klackerz

    This could go a long way to solve the scumvote dilemma we seem to be having.
     
  18. Another Empty Frame

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    Azi, good point

    Rescind Vote

    Lynch Vote Klackerz
     
  19. Snowflake

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    That's true.

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Klackerz

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    Wait what? John Stallings survives a NK, not a lynch.

    Rescind Vote: Klackerz (I do find him suspicious though)

    We can leave him for the Blackstaff to kill.
     
  20. Azira

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    Snowflake: you are right I derped hard, but if we NK him and he survives he can claim stallings and if he's red king it can turn nasty for us. Some of his posts have contradicted eachother (the seduction draconian got from Kalas on night 3, I think).

    Until a better target is found I think we should lynch him.
     
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