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Is fanfiction dying?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Seratin, Mar 12, 2008.

  1. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    With Deathly Hallows out and the series finished, I cant help but wonder what will happen with Fanfiction?

    There are some brilliant fic's out there Eg: The Denarian series, Jbern's works and nonjon's amongst others, but I wonder, what's next? I have yet to read a good post-DH fic, and the regular Post-OoTP fic's aren't really cutting it anymore. There are a few exceptions like "Sixth year" by scaryisntit, but the rate of new stories being posted seems to be slowing down.

    Maybe I'm imagining it, but is quality dropping? If so then will this genre eventually fade and be completely submerged underneath the hordes of trollish writers that spew out such classics as "My Immortal"?
     
  2. Averis

    Averis Don of Delivery ~ Prestige ~

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    Fanfiction has been dying since the sixth book came out. Now that the series is finished no one is looking for something to hold them over until the next book is released.

    That's not to say that it will completely die off, but it's likely that it will never come back around full force. I'm still interested in reading, and writing, fanfiction, and there are thousands upon thousands of others like me, but I don't spend nearly as much time as I used to anymore. I just check for the stories I know are WIPs, and when I absolutely have nothing else to do, scour FF.net for kicks. But don't worry, DLP won't let it die off.

    Unless we choose to kill it with fire.
     
  3. Banner

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    I've read a few really good post-War fics - "The Kids Are All Right," by Mistful is an example. I didn't rec it here because Draco Malfoy comes off as a decent person, and I didn't want to get flamed.
    Now that the series is finished and canon is established (except when JKR decides to change the rules,) I expect that a lot of authors will drop out. The ones that love the HP 'verse will stick around for a while - at least 'til the most rabid of their plot bunnies die.
    We'll probably follow our favorite authors into other fandoms, eventually. There are a lot of interesting concepts and there's room to use HP as a jumping-off point for adventures as adults.

    Edited to add:
    Here's the link, because I was well brought up (and I know my duty and will complete it, even if it gets me flamed) :
    "The Kids Are All Right," by Mistful
    http://mistful.livejournal.com/102832.html#cutid1
     
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  4. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think it's less that fanfiction is dying and more than our standards have gone up. If you look at FanFiction.Net you'll see loads of new stories being written since DH came out, both post-DH and not. It's just that our standards are so high that we don't read many of them, as most are below par.

    Personally speaking, there are stories that I started reading a year ago that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole today.
     
  5. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    I know what you mean, I started out with H/Hr and some of the fics I read back then were terrible but at the time I thought they were brilliant. :eek:
     
  6. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    Yea, those were the days. When I eagerly looked at a Harry/Ginny story and thought wow. Now I am staying in my corner of Harry/The beautiful Fleur.
     
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  7. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    No, there's absolutely no risk of that.

    Is Harry Potter fanfiction dying?

    Well, maybe, though I haven't seen signs of it. It will die eventually, but in the mean time the future releases of the films will keep generating interest in the fandom. There's no need to be concerned just yet.

    When HP fanfic no longer rocks your world, you'll have already moved on to some other fandom. ;)

    I remember Ranma 1/2's golden age of fanfiction and then it's twilight years. It must've been crossed over with every tv, book and movie series ever published before it wound down. There were epic mega-crossover fics, commentary on society fics, psycho-thriller fics, heaps of AU's, the 'verse was twisted inside out, warped, pulled, and dragged in every wonderful (and not so wonderful) direction long after the series was finished. We're barely scratching the surface of that in HP.

    Don't worry so much. There's plenty of life left in HP yet. :)

    Yak.
     
  8. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Fanfiction has died and gone to heaven.
     
  9. Calis Clayr

    Calis Clayr Seventh Year

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    Quoted for truth.

    Also, I believe Taure is right, our standards have gone up. When I look back at some of the stories I've read in the beginning, I can't quite remember what was so great about them...
     
  10. LogrusMage

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    Agreed. A year ago I would have tolerated any cliche, any horrible plot device, and terrible writing. I probably wouldn't read ANYTHING I read back then now.
     
  11. Jenkins

    Jenkins Forum Bike DLP Supporter

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    I'm with Taure, standards have gone up and being the s00per l33t PplZ we are at DLP, we are HP fanfiction gods...so we know whats cool.

    I think that with No more books to work with and stuff, HP fanfcition won't die out yet, instead we'll turn to new things. In my opinion, crossovers and AU's are the future.

    Rather than following canon to an extent, authors are going to be forced to come up with way new ideas (unfortunately this will mean fangirls turn to Harr/Albus Severus or whatever the fuck they do...hard to tell with that species)
     
  12. Coyote

    Coyote He howls n' stuff

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    I'd also like to point out that as the movies get released, interest will flare up for brief periods-- Of course, it'll be an even higher than usual amount of shitfics because the movies suck all kinds of different varieties of ass, but whatever. I'm just saying that there's a lot of life in the old horse yet, even if said life that's left is the shitty "kidney failure, wheelchair, colostomy bag" years.
     
  13. Methene

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    I am also of the opinion that fanfiction is still going strong. In my mind AUs are the way of the future. Crossovers require very good authors and a cast in stone plot to prevent failure and they should be left to the better authors out there that can manage them.

    AUs are interesting and allow much more leverage over the development of your characters without getting stuck with the barriers canon has slapped onto you. Nowadays, I find it highly difficult to pick up a post-Ootp, or post-HPB story, unless it has been recommended and highly reviewed by DLP.

    What I find has dropped is the enthusiasm. In the past, I have seen numerous threads discussing this and that. It is natural for that to have fallen since the series is now complete, but it makes me wish for the golden days when Harry had not been Weasleyfied and we could hope and imagine. We still have worthy threads discussing the HP universe, but they are diminishing out of lack of new material. It is understandable, since most has already been debated to death (Wizards vs. Filthy Muggles) or is of no importance (the colour of Sevvy's underpants).

    There isn't a lack of new stories out there, but there is a lack of new ideas. Post-Ootp Harry becoming independent has been done to death. I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Harry's children, especially due to their retarded names. I hated how DH ended, so I can't read anything, unless the summary promises to twist canon upon itself and return the characters to their better days.

    As a whole, we need to encourage new authors to write, I believe. Authors are the source of the [SIZE=-1]panem et circenses for the Fanfiction community. When I find one I like, has a good idea, inspires me, supports Harry/Fleur, or promises gruesome deaths for the Weasleys I do my best to review and comment on ideas. I am always willing to discuss anything, especially pertaining to the ideas presented above.
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  14. Xiph0

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    Fanfiction's not dying, authors are just going to get more creative.
     
  15. Heather_Sinclair

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    When I started reading Fanfic it was in the days of X-Files and Buffy. I never really had the knowledge to write a decent X story and started writing Buffy. When that series ended I thought that the desire for fic in that universe would die off. It lessened but to this day the hardcore fans still pump out hundreds of fics. Granted it's like HP, you have to pick through some serious crap to find the gems.

    My tastes changed a bit to crossovers since there was a decent site that was devoted to them (Twisting the Hellmouth) and the universe stayed strong for years through that aspect.

    Now that HP has ended I think we'll see something of the same. Eventually people will move on and the hardcore fans will keep the universe alive through some mode (AU's, crosses, redo, etc.) As long as you have a site like DLP to sort through the crap and promote original stories, or at the very least good stories, you won't go for naught.

    The trick is to keep it fun and thus interesting for the writers and readers. People that incourage original plotlines are a goldmind. Methene with his H/Fleur thread constently milking how a believable H/Fleur could work, Andro with his "Reverse Severitus" challenge to make fun of all the fan girls out there at ff.net, hell, the entire "challenge" threadline are all fun ways to keep interest in the universe.

    Fanfic isn't dying it's becoming more streamline. And eventually there will be another "OMGz THE GREATEST STORY EVAR" to write new fic about.

    Of course then there'd have to be a new site or a branch of this site called "Dark Lord Dresden" or something. Until then I'm happy playing with Harry.

    ~H
     
  16. Verminard

    Verminard Seventh Year

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    I die a little everytime I see a fic involving Snape deciding that Harry is his mate. Although there is one on TTH that has Snape kidnapping Xander to be his mate and impregnating him. :(
     
  17. Los Fuegos

    Los Fuegos First Year

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    I agree with what Taure said up here. I think that since the end of the series canon-wise, we have matured and our expectations have grown. The HP fandom is still the largest on FanFiction.Net, with the "close" second at approximately 200,000 stories less. Fanfiction is not dying, on the contrary, I think I have seen a surge of fanfictions since DH.
     
  18. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Yes but is it good fanfiction? there has been a surge in ff.net but can you honestly say that the majority are worth anything?
     
  19. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Situation Normal.

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  20. hchan1

    hchan1 Sixth Year

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    Again, you're just reinforcing what Taure said. Quality overall hasn't changed, but our standards have. Well, that, and several good authors seem to have moved to exclusively writing slash. Utter waste of talent.
     
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