Is there any cannon references to the death of Grindelwald? The only thing I can recall is the frog cards that state he was defeated in 1945. I'm just wondering if Dumbledore managed to actually kill someone, or if he has always been too soft for it.

 

I know i haven't read anything else concering him other than what was already stated. What are you thinking that Dumblefuck somehow managed to convice him or something?

 

Ohhh that would be a nice idea for a fic!
Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald but he is refuses to kill him. Instead he binds must of his power leaving him barely above squib level. For some reason or another he starts training Harry, but not by making him into a super!Harry but rather train him into an manipulator which reaches the maximum effect with minimal effort.

 

JK Rowling has confirmed that he is dead. Who knows what DD did with him, but canon DD seems too softhearted to kill anybody. Even Voldemort who has caused the death and torture of countless people is shown mercy by DD, by not attempting to kill him. But then again maybe DD is too pure for that, even with somebody like LV.

 

Well there´s still the wonderfull world of AU .
Maybe he killed him by accident, otherwise I am clueless on how he did it.

 

Perhaps he was defeated, lost his powers, and then died of old age. We don't know how old Grindlewald was in comparison to Dumbledore, there might of been a similar age gap between the two, and if the theory that how much magic you have normally determines how long you live then binding Grindelwald's powers may have lead him to an early grave.

 

Perhaps he didn't. Perhaps Grindelwald killed Dumbledore instead in 1945 and then used some magic to take his place, thus gaining the ability to rule the wizarding world from the shadows without really lifting a finger. Of course, that radical idea would still necessitate explaining why the current Albus won't kill Voldemort or become Minister, among other things, but it's still an interesting thought.

 

Now that would also make a wonderfull story.
seeing the frutality in takeing over the world by force Grindy takes over the world by lessing in the powers of the furture generations of wizards by shite education.

 

DD probably killed him brutally and the reason he is so kind hearted etc, is because killing him messed him up in the head

 

Maybe,, I don't think that DD would do that though. To me it seems more likey that DD would want to end Grindy's life as quick and painless as possible.

 

If Grindlewald is alive then he would probably be in a jail wouldn't you think?

 

DD because of his pureness and his manipulatorness prob had someone else kill him and then stole the credit by doing a massive Obliviate.

He is above killing but is he above memory wipe?

 

Above killing?.....Err.....I don't think he would kill needlessly but I think if he could kill Voldermort he might just have given it a shot.

 

I wasnt talking about Voldemort. I was talking about Grindlewald.

And besides before the prophecy was made he had a chance to kill Voldemoprt multiple times. Hell they even had tea once in his office and he already knew he was evil.

 

Dawg, the man knew he was dabling in evil things but that would hardly be grounds to kill someone. And that's one time not 'many'.....

 

The multiple times I was talking about was not that tea thing. That was included in the many. The "many" is all the times on the battlefield and during fights he had chances to kill Voldy for 10-11 years to kill him.

And I think he had grounds to kill him when he showed up he already had killed and was obviously wanting to kill again. And to justify he can say that he was the one that killled mrytle, killing to birds with one stone. Showing the ministries incompentency with hagrid and getting rid of Voldy.

 

For example?

He would need to prove it or go to jail, if he could have proved it maybe he would have done something. And that wouldn't be a justification for killing riddle anyway, he still would have gone to jail.

 

He knew (or at least suspected) about Myrtle and Riddle's parents/Frank Bryce.

 

You're not understanding....whether or not he knew, thats still not grounds to kill someone. He would go to jail, or possibly become a fugitive and how would that benefit anyone?

 

Dumbledore is an officer of the court (don't know if he was Chief Wizard at the time), and would've been well in his right to arrest Riddle, even without any proof. Riddle would've either resisted or attacked him outright, givinig Dumbledore an excuse to use lethal force.