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Is Harry/Tonks relationship morally wrong?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Don, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. Jarizok

    Jarizok Groundskeeper

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    0800-Rent-a-Hero by Brainthief has Tonks prentending to be ‘Amanda’ to get close to him.

    If you meant Tonks pretends to be Ginny or whatever than I don’t know any.
     
  2. junkseer2

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    I rarely post, but this discussion's quite delicious, so i'm going to join in. To the people preaching that no sane 24 year old woman would go for a 16 y/o boy/young man/HPotter, i'd like to draw your attention to Exhibit A: Emmanuel Macron, current President of France. 39 year old president, married to a 64 year old woman, a relationship spanning 24!! years. It began when he was 15 and Mme Macron was his 39 year old teacher.
     
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    Macron is definitely a good role model and not an actual piece of human shit.
     
  4. junkseer2

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    Ok, i admit, i failed to take his legislative stance and libertarian? approach into account when bringing him up in a discussion about age gaps and fanon relationships. My bad
     
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    I honestly think this thread is a joke. No offense to anyone but come on. Look at the fandom. If HarryxTonks even make the list of top 100 problems, there is something wrong with the list.

    Anyway, if it was irl...it would be more than a little creepy. However, in the word of fanfiction, it doesn't matter. It could be a fun pairing to read and write and this is what matters.
     
  6. Joe's Nemesis

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    Harry/Tonks is morally, aesthetically, and tastelessly wrong if she morphs into a man and impregnates Harry. Other than that? As long as Harry turns seventeen before anything physical happens, there's nothing morally wrong with it.
     
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    To be entirely fair to the pairing, 24 is not necessarily a particularly mature age, though it can be for some people (Tonks has shown no signs of being one of them).

    I can see it without it being incredibly icky. It'd need a convincing chemistry and good combination of down to earth younger half and immature older half, which admittedly is not hard to pull off with the people involved.

    I'd argue that's a bigger reason as to why the pairing is so popular, as most fics (good or no) tend to explore Tonks' attitude more than abilities.
     
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    What if the age of consent in the wizarding world is 14?

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    Actually, based on the Twins' actions in OotP there's a fair argument to be made that the age of majority, such as it is, is 15. Once you have your OWL's you're considered an adult since they could leave school and start a business at that age.
     
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    Those don't really have a correlation to each other. You don't have to be an adult to have a business in the muggle world, and I don't see why that would be different in the magical world (though we could make something up of course since the two worlds go to great strides to remain separate). Similarly in muggle UK the dropout age is 16.

    Regardless, the twins were already 18 years old by the time they dropped out.
     
  11. Chengar Qordath

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    Actually, as I recall they explicitly say the age of majority is 17 in the Wizarding World in Deathly Hallows. Of course, that's different from the age of consent.
     
  12. LordPotter

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    Yes it would be an issue. We're not talking about a 29 and 24 year old hooking up. We're talking about a teen potentially dating a 23 year old. Unless Tonks is a pedo no sane women would go after a snot nosed brat.
     
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    Look bud. I've only got so much 'investigative power' in me. The well has run dry. I can't look into this issue again. I've moved on. Perhaps you should too.
     
  14. Dystopian Destiny

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    As long as its fiction, I don't see any question of morality.

    Also, is it fair to judge a fiction by muggle standards of morality?

    From what we can see of canon, wizards seem to take consequences lightly. (Dumbledore and Tom along with Hagrid and Sirius)
     
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    To be fair, this wouldn't even be an issue in the real world. How many times do you see celebrities dating older women and not bat an eye at it in real life?

    Is anyone actually serious when they start screaming pedo at Harry/Tonks? What the fuck is wrong with people ?

    Harry/Tonks makes it better, not worse. Shapeshifting sex for the win.
     
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    If the guy was 15/16 and the woman was 24? There just might be an issue there.

    Even in fanfiction that’s still pushing it a bit, but I don’t do shipping, so what do I know?
     
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    You guys are way overfocused on this 'age of consent' thing. Didn't any of you want to get it on with an older woman when you were thirteen? I know I did. And no I was not about to report her if one had happened to grant me that wish.
     
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    I don't think anyone's suggesting that Harry isn't willing, in this scenario. It's still illegal, and morally dubious on Tonks' part at best.
     
  19. TheLazyReader

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    I mean, who is she hurting here for it to be morally wrong?
     
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    Would you be as OK with a 13/14/15 year old girl dating/fucking a 24 year old guy? How about if it was your 14 year old sister?

    To a certain extent is it possible for a 15 year old and a 24 year old to have a healthy relationship? The answer is yeah sure, it happens, both parties walk away without feeling like they were taken advantage of etc. The reason as a society we frown on it/make it illegal beacuse there is a great potential for abuse. In such a relationship the power-dynamics are inevitably screwed towards the older more experienced partner. 16 (or whatever the age of consent is where you are from) isn't a magic number when teens are able to decide if they want sex, plenty are happy to give it a go before hand. Its the age we deem that on average they are cognitively competent enough to give consent and understand (to an extent) what that means.

    Do 13 year olds want to have sex with hot adults? Hell yes they do if the hormones have started to kick in. Most teens crushes are on people who would go to jail for fucking them. Do they understand what sex, pregnancy, relationships and power dynamics are actually about? Hell no, however much porn they've managed to watch. In fact teens these days might be even more vulnerable than those who grew up on titty mags since their frame of reference as to what constitutes as 'normal' sex is so skewed by all the fucked up shit you can find online. It makes them vulnerable which is why there are laws to protect them from exploitation.

    With Tonks there is the added problem that not only is she magical law enforcement at times she is literally supposed to be guarding him from attack by standing outside his house and is part of the group protecting him most everything he values. Saying no to someone like that could get all sorts of difficult. even if its only on an unconscious level. There is a reason that prison guards, teachers and military superiors are not allowed to start relationships with those under them even if they are over-age.
     
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