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Is Harry/Tonks relationship morally wrong?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Don, Aug 3, 2017.

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  1. DerHesse

    DerHesse Unspeakable

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    I don't see the problem with this relationship as long as the setting is appropriate.

    Remus still dies, but Tonks survives the Battle of Hogwarts.
    Maybe for added drama, Andromeda put her out of commission and went to fight in her stead.

    Harry sees Tonks with her son sitting by the covered bodies of her family and it breaks his heart.
    He decides, that the wellbeing of his godson and Tonks have the highest priority for him.
    Doing his very best to provide for them and be a father-figure to Teddy he doesn't waste any time on his own romantic relationships.
    So Ginny fizzles out before it even starts again.

    After a certain amount of time spent in close proximity to each other things start to develop for Harry and Tonks.
     
  2. Dark Lord Porn

    Dark Lord Porn Banned

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    A 14/15/16 year old dating a 22 year old is, while not common, perfectly legal in most of Europe. I agree that any serious relationship in the time frame of the first three books is unrealistic but by later books that relationship seems fine, especially compared to some of the canon alternatives.
     
  3. Zeelthor

    Zeelthor Scissor Me Timbers

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    In which fucking European country is it okay to bang a 14-year-old when you're 22?
     
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    Age of consent in Germany, Italy and Portugal is 14 with Italy having a clause making 13 legal as long as the older partner is under 18.

    16 is the general European AoC though.
     
  5. Silirt

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    Doesn't really matter if it's not that way in Britain.
    That said, regular Britain may have different rules than magical Britain.
    As for how it would be received, nineties magical Britain seems to be a relatively conservative place in the sense that love triangles are 'frowned upon' and most couples end up getting married. I can imagine a Harry/Tonks relationship would wrinkle some noses.
     
  6. Zombie

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    JFC. I wish this thread was deleted. I get so tired of seeing everyone's goddamn neckbeard show when they come in here and argue AoC.
     
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    ...of course the guy called Dark Lord Porn knows this
     
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    Joe's Nemesis High Score: 2,058 ~ Prestige ~

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    To all those from the US that are now booking airline flights to one of these countries, remember the AoC is still 18 for you, regardless of the nation you're in (unless there's a minor age difference).

    Stop posting and start writing.
     
  10. Lucius

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    This is an interesting question. Anyway legally it can't be right but Tonks is more closer to a teenager than mature women. Honestly does she seem any more mature than Harry in canon. It could work in secret relationship but probably wouldn't work publicly due to disapproval of his friends, mentors, societial pressure at large.
     
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    I'm afraid I don't understand your argument here. How does the age you act have anything to do with your biological age?

    Is it ethically ok for a 40 year old man that acts like a child to date 15 year olds?
     
  12. Lucius

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    Well no but generally 20 year old girls actually are not that mature at that age. In this case Tonks is what 4 or 5 years older than Harry. Its not really a big gap except in legal terms. Is there really difference in the level of maturity and the way of thinking between them.
     
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    Yes. Maybe if Tonks was 40 and Harry 35 or so it'd mean nothing, but at that age? Any 20 year old who wants to get with a 15 year old's fucking weird. It's immoral, it's illegal, and it's absolute loser shit.
     
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    Thank god that someone has finally said it. AoC doesn't mean shit. A healthy relationship will usually have 2 people that are somewhat similar stages in their maturity. Like the example @BTT used, 40 and 33 aren't a huge deal. Two consenting adults of reasonably similar maturity. A 16-year-old and a 24-year-old is significantly different and problematic as hell and anyone who doesn't see that needs to sort out their priorities
     
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    Im not sure if this thread needed to be revisited after 4 years lol, but I think I can settle this:
    Would a relationship between Tonks and Harry be morally wrong in the real world? Yes, no question about it. It would be very fucked up for 20 something Tonks to get with Harry at that stage in his life. Beyond just the fact he’s barely more than a child, dude has had a shitton of Trauma that would really add to the predatory nature.

    Does this matter? No, because its fucking fanfiction lol. You can like the pairing and separate the actual moral ickiness because… its just a random pairing.
     
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    Half of the elder's age + 7 never fails as a rule for determining age based skeeviness.
     
  17. Lucius

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    On another note, what about Fleur and Harry. In GOF she is 18 and he 14. Is she too old as well?
     
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    Bruh what kind of question is that?
     
  19. Lucius

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    I meant whether they could legally have a relationship or is it skimish as well even if they could? Compared to Tonks the gap is less.
     
  20. Silirt

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    It's a difference of four years rather than five, but at a lower age. Teenagers develop rapidly; we can presume an 18 year old is substantially further ahead of a 14 year old. This doesn't even get into the 'half your age plus seven' rule of what's weird; this is literal predation.
     
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