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Kids hero is Voldemort.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PlacatedTurtle, Nov 17, 2007.

  1. PlacatedTurtle

    PlacatedTurtle Backtraced

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    I was going through some local news from the past few weeks on my local newspapers website and found an article about the start of filming of bits of the 6th film at Lacock, a village right next to the town I live in.

    http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/n...0.potter_fans_flock_too_see_filming_begin.php

    There is one particular bit I found slightly odd though,

    Why would someone who claims to be a massive potter fan also claim that voldemort is their hero?
     
  2. Rehio

    Rehio Bad Dragon ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Potter fan means they like the books, not the character.
     
  3. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Doesn't mean the villain is supposed to be the hero.
     
  4. Averis

    Averis Don of Delivery ~ Prestige ~

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    It's okay to like the villain more than the hero. In fact, in my own opinion, it's a sign of a good author if your villain is almost as well-liked as your hero is.

    Although personally, I don't think Voldemort is written half as well as he could have been. He should be less bent on ridding the world of Muggles, and more consumed by running the Wizarding world through a fear of Muggles.

    Plus kids are stupid. He probably just said that shit to get recognized. That's why you should check a person's intellect and/or wrists before interviewing them.
     
  5. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Someone must not have heard of Darth Vader. Villains can he heroes (to specific people). Who gives a shit?
     
  6. Tarnished Blade

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    At least Voldemort is an imaginary character.

    *Edit*

    Besides the kid says Voldemort is his favorite character, I think the "hero" comment may have just been the article author.

    Considering how important the Villian can be in a story its not suprising for Voldemort to have a following, not that he could ever compare to the Dark Lord of the Sith (good point on that)
     
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  7. PlacatedTurtle

    PlacatedTurtle Backtraced

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    Fair enough.

    I just found it odd that an 8 year old would be excited to be around voldemort.
     
  8. Lecter

    Lecter Seventh Year

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    Who said that an 8-year-old can't be of Lawful Evil alignment?
     
  9. Muttering Condolences

    Muttering Condolences Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    Not to mention The Terminator. Ever wonder why he was the hero in 2 and 3? Audiences identified with him more than they did with the other characters.
     
  10. NarkoticZ

    NarkoticZ Muggle

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    i agree with everyone...y can't people like the villian, plus the kids eight years old..he's probably only seen the movies and had his mother read him the books...in the movies voldemort is spectacularly played by Ralph Fiennes,, the acting is amazing,,and maybe the kid likes the way voldemort is played..
     
  11. Manatheron

    Manatheron Headmaster

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    I rather think that Voldemort Qualifies as Chaotic rather than lawful.... the kid? More likely neutral Evil. A lawful would have quoted as an 'inside source' or 'Longtime fan', a Chaotic would have managed to make Voldemort look like hero of the series. Neutrals just don't care :D
     
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  12. Methene

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    It's hard to assign an alignment to Lord Voldemort. During his first rise to power he might have been Lawful Evil, but I agree, now he has swept into Chaotic evil.

    I think Lord Voldemort would have a better chance at ruling the world by being Lawful evil than Chaotic.
     
  13. Garret P.I.

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    I always viewed him as Neutral Evil. He had an organized and stratified organization (The Death eaters) but he seemed capricious in his acts.

    His attacks were planned out and organized, but they reeked of wanton abandon.

    His organization manipulated and sought to supplant the organized government of the magical world.. but the actions he meant to carry out seemed scattershot and not carried out with a long term plan.

    A fine mix of equal measures chaos and law... but always evil.
     
  14. Lecter

    Lecter Seventh Year

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    This whole alignment business is pretty arbitrary, IMO, but I think Voldemort can be classed as Lawful with a high degree of certainty. Consider: he doesn't merely seek personal gain or rain down death and destruction just for the heck of it; he has strong ideas about what the world should be like, and he systematically puts them into action. In the battle of Hogwarts he demonstrates that he has something like a code of honour, as well. As far as I know, these are the traits of a Lawful character.
     
  15. Giovanni

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    I don't find anything odd about this. Voldemort is a goal-oriented competant individual whose sole failing in life has been the lack of dedication to the cause shown by is subordinates.

    It's their fault he failed.

    This child has chosen his hero wisely. Perhaps when he learns more muggle history he will have the courage to say that his real hero is Hitler.
     
  16. jts360

    jts360 Second Year

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    Granted there are worse villains out there, however much better ones exist also. Then again how much exposure to fiction has a 8 year old had a chance to have? Given more time another villain is likely to become his favorite next.
     
  17. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    See, that would never work. Voldemort with actual common sense would have won the first war.

    How? He was the idiot that decided to prove his power by killing a baby. He should have just sent Bella to do it.

    "But why, my Lord?"

    "Why the fuck should I know? Just kill the little shit! And if you do it well I may punish you later!"

    "Ohhhhhh, thank you my Lord."

    Mmmm.... sweet Aryan goodness.
     
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  18. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Not necessarily, if the general population would also have some common sense. Thing is, for the characters to have common sense, the author has to have some common sense himself in the first place.

    This applies to both canon and fanon.
     
  19. Methene

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    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king...

    Voldemort has been portrayed as an imbecile in canon. Then again, so have the others. Voldemort would have won the first war with no problem, if it was not for the Deus ex machina in the form of Harry and loving mum.
     
  20. The Doctor

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    Conversely, Harry would have never survived the seven books if it wasn't for the deus ex machina. I'm reminded of The Editing Room's script for CoS:

     
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