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Laptop Heat Issues

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by Rahkesh Asmodaeus, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    My 1-year-old laptop has been having heat issues the last few months. Without a fan on, just running mIRC and firefox with a few tabs open, the CPU and GPU go past 200 degrees F. On occasion it gets so hot that it starts to lag considerably. I'm having to constantly use an external fan pointed at its vent to cool it down to ~160 F. When I play games, such as StarCraft II or Super Street Fighter IV AE, it heats up like mad. SCII is fine as long as the fan is on. If the external fan is off my computer shuts itself down after about 10 minutes. Even with the fan on in Street Fighter though, it shuts down. I'm playing this game at ultra low graphics too, but it hasn't helped that much.

    When I first got it, the laptop handled medium level graphics in Starcraft just fine. It heated up, sure, but it never shut down on me. It also handled the original Street Fighter just as well with medium graphics. I never needed to use an external fan before to keep it from shutting down.

    Laptop Specs:

    Asus N61JQ
    ATI Mobility Radeon 5730 1GB
    Windows 7 64 bit
    4 GB Ram
    Core i7 CPU Q720 1.6 GHz

    The HDD on the laptop is pretty full, about 6 gigs left on the C drive, and about 18 gigs left on my media drive. Could this be the problem, or contributing to the problem? Would a complete reformat of Windows fix it then, or does the problem sound more hardware related?
     
  2. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    does the internal fan in the laptop still work? If that has failed, it'd explain the heat issues.
     
  3. Rhys

    Rhys High Inquisitor

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    Many a laptop I have seen suffer the heat death. From what I know its usually a combination of battery/power supply degradation and the fan getting old and weak. I don't have technical knowledge however, so that's mostly just guesswork and observation. My last laptop seemed to have problems with both, and eventually multiple parts fried into uselessness (the CD drive, battery, and ethernet were all nonfunctional by the end).
     
  4. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    The battery is also kinda fucked up, true. I didn't think that had any relationship to this issue though. It doesn't carry a charge for that long anymore, maybe 15 or so minutes at max. And the icon in windows 7 for the battery has a little red x on it, and it says the battery isn't charging and that I should consider replacing the battery.

    The internal fan is working, yes.
     
  5. The Fine Balance

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    Things could be clogged up with dust? Take a blower and clean out of the path through with your lappy disperses heat. I usually notice a significant decline in heat issues every time I do this.

    Also, your graphics card might have some integrated fan or heat sink, or something. Check that, too.
     
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  6. Rhys

    Rhys High Inquisitor

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    This is just a guess, but my thinking was as the battery degrades it gets to be more and more of a heat source, and does a lot of damage by frying the hell out of everything even as it sits there as a useless lump. Does it feel really hot while the laptop is operating (even though its basically useless)? For that old computer, I just took it out and relied on plug power 100%, though I don't know how much good it did.
     
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    From my personal experience:
    Check if the laptop's fan is not clogged up with dust etc. I had exactly the same problem, after two years mine had a "carpet" 1/10 inch thick beneath the fan. Remove the case/panel if possible, unscrew the fan and clean it thoroughly. Replace everything as it was and it's done.
    If that does not help, there is a possibility that the heatsink doesn't work as it should - the thermal grease could have lost it's properties (it requires replacement every 2 to 5 years). It's a bit more complicated and more prone to fatal screw-ups. Just remove the heatsink, clean the remains of thermal grease carefully (if it's silver-based alcohol + cotton sticks works just fine). After that apply a new layer of thermal grease (just a drop and use a credit card or sth to spread it into a thin layer) and put back everything into it's proper place.
     
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  9. Jas

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    This. When your battery degrades it becomes a solid block of heat as it is 'continually' in charge. Just like all rechargeable devices, when in charge, there is some heat created from whatever reaction is needed to recharge it. I had my old laptop die from this as the HDD cracked from the heat.

    My current laptop has also had the battery die. It was like yours where the charge wouldn't hold and had a nice little red cross. Removing the battery is good and created far less heat for the whole system. I also invested in a cheap laptop fan base to augment my laptops current cooling system. The only drawback to this is sometimes because of how effective the fan base is, the in-built fan of the laptop may switch off as the temperature seems to be well handled without its use.
     
  10. calutron

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    Well you could run you laptop with the battery removed, and see if that fixes it like every one has bee saying. But most likely your problem has to with dust clogging up the vents, or some sort of an internal heat sink bust. Just call Asus, if you're under warranty.
     
  11. Zombie

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    Sounds like every laptop I've ever used. Get you one of those external fan mounts, that you can sit the laptop on, make sure that all intake fans have air going into them. There's not much you can do for the heat build up. I kept mine clean on the inside, conditioned/replaced the batteries regularly, and still had the problem. One time it got so bad that I couldn't even open and play Minecraft or TF2 without it heating up so hot that it just shut down. I even replaced the thermal paste with better stuff than what the manufacturer put on there, and it still didn't help.

    Try underclocking your GPU and CPU and turning up your fanspeeds with Riva Tuner. That should cut down some of the immediate heat build up. Also, yeah, get a new battery. Still don't think that will work.

    No amount of reformatting will fix that, its a hardware issue, and will continue to get worse.


    Thats about all I can think of.

    Check your CMOS battery as well, for some reason or another, when I replaced mine (mostly because my computer wouldn't keep time when I shut it down) that seemed to make a difference.

    Also, if you don't have one of those mounts, build you one, and get one of those high RPM box fans, take the front off of it, and set it right at the air intakes at full speed, or half speed, depending on how computer intensive the process you are running is. If you do that, make sure you clean it out regularly, cause dust will build up super fast that way.
     
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  12. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

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    Damn, was hoping I didn't have to open up my laptop. Ah well, thanks for the info everyone, and especially for the links, wordhammer.
     
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