This makes no sense. Vaimes did not get lynched d1. He got lynched d2 because Jari watched him.
Your whole phrasing here is to make gemma feel good, but it has nothing to do what actually happened on d1.

You can say that she is not aligned with vaimes for this and the read is good, but the way youa re phrasing it feels like a pocket attempt and nothing else.[/QUOTE]

 

I couldn't tell fluff defended me. I guess I was too busy reading this game and not some other game, where he's lynching me.

 

Oh yeah, I'm sure you just happened to miss these.

 

So, if I brought you some, it would stagger and amaze you?
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And you happened to miss this, which is of far greater weight than some analysis which was so conclusive he's now voting me and not arguing in my defense.

 

Probably. I mean, I've been playing with Newcomb for years and I've fucking lived with Von, but if you can pick up on that intricacy better than I can, be my guest.

 

Which, given his post content up to this point, is something I am counting on. That's the hail mary I went with.

You're a funny.

 

It's really, really not.

Fluff is hands down the person most likely to back you if you put out decent content right now. He was straight up fighting Gemma for you earlier. I think you are fully aware of this.

 

So on the one hand, without double checking yourself, there is no way there's in-thread evidence of Vaimes and Newcomb feeling confident about a deeper partner on day one. On the other hand, Newcomb was dead and Vaimes doesn't even want to be alive, apparently, making my point for me that on night one, Vaimes was putting all his eggs in the basket of partner number three.

And this argument is rock solid because of your personal experience, you're the expert of experts on both Vaimes and Newcomb, at least one of which you hard defended on day one while trying to lynch the watcher who claimed.
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See, fluff is a low key, consistent burn.

Fonti is the flame that burns brightly, and then for hours at a time, seems to be playing against the town because they're bad.

 

I don't see a point in talking to you. We're done here.

Present your evidence.

 

Will take time to gather and present, since it will be multiple posts I saw on day one and I'll need to explain my reasoning behind it. And since I've been at this for 6 hours, and we're done talking apparently, I can do so after I've had some time away from the thread.

For now, just enjoy your spot as not safe and not very good town.

 

I kind of disagree with this? Because I think in a team of something like Newcomb/Von/x that the person carrying the kill is the one less likely to endgame anyway, and if Von went deep he's prime for that even if he wouldn't want to be the last wolf?

So like, in that scenario, the only way Von carries the kill is if someone is deeper, which points to one of Jan / Fluff, but I think Fluff is town, but a Newcomb/Von/Jan scumteam has just been steamrolled at this point when I think they weren't expecting to be at all, but even after losing Newcomb I would think Jan wouldn't want to be carrying that kill because of the way gamestate was.

Idk, you know their meta better than me, but that's just how I see it.
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Also, if and when I decide I want to respond to Ghouliani's post that he wanted me to answer, I will do so, but at this point I extremely dislike the way he's basically churning out his content like he's the one who gets to decide what the PoE is?

Like, the whole thing in his most recent post which pretty much just boils down to "enjoy your spot as being safe but you're just bad lol" at Fonti is super fucking condescending and I don't like the way he's demanding to be told things, or to have people explain their thought processes and spell it out for him like he's entitled to that.

Like if you just said, hey I want some clarification on this, what were your thoughts behind this, etc that would be okay and I'd have no problem doing that, but "elaborate on this with ALL details you possess at this point in time right now" is something I really don't respond to and anyone who ACTUALLY knows my meta knows I don't go after Newcomb like that as a wolf partner so you can eat me and I'll answer if and when I please. Thanks.
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@fontisian what I was getting at with that whole Newcomb/Von/x thing is that yes, you're right, there's zero evidence that Newcomb and Von would think their third teammate would carry them, because a team of Newcomb/Von/Jan for example is a party roll for them on D1, but considering the kill happened after they'd ALREADY lost Newcomb I can see it being under Von if someone like Jan was their third.
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So basically what you're saying is that Von carrying the kill is not-partner-indicative but I'm saying it might be.

You know better, but I think it's still a possibility that it's a factor to consider.

 

This is the birb comic I never knew I needed

 

I have to agree with Jan here, saying that Gemma gets all of town's credit for success until this point is really dumb and uninformed of Ghouliani to claim, especially because it wasn't like Gemma was the town-leading voice behind the Vaimes lynch. Jarizok literally caught Vaimes red handed and he scumclaimed and started lolcatting. Nobody gets any credit for that but the PR who caught him. Pushing that feels like a pocket as Jan said and I'm pretty sure I'm firmly between Jan/Ghouliani today because both of their cases against each other have some decent merit to them.
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@dichotomousCreator - I initially thought you might've been w/w/w with Newcomb/Zenzao but given that the team has flipped so far as Newcomb/Vaimes a lot of the w/w things between you and Zen/Ghouliani don't hold any water because you can't be scum together.

So if I'm putting those aside you move a lot higher up my town list.

What do you think about Ghouliani's content right now, and do you think given the thread's general suspicion / attitude towards Zen / Zenslot that he's just safe to get rid of in PoE today and if he's a miss we pick up his cases and look elsewhere like Jan?
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@Gemma - after D2 and everything that's been discussed about it I no longer find your EoD 1 to be scummy, and you're still in my top towns. Same question that I just asked dC. ^

 

I forgot, I'm not allowed to say what my personal POE is, and I know that a guy replacing in for a low poster should do stuff besides read the game and generate readable content. As for super condescending, most of the folks in this game have no right to complain about my super mild behavior after their pages upon pages of game breaking uncivility toward each other, yourself included Cobalt.

I subbed in to give you folks a hand with the game and not be short a person and a round, but I've got better things to do with my time.

I gave my reads, contributed, and if I die my guesses are on record. I couldn't give a shit if you don't like what I gave you at this point, don't bother answering my questions if you don't want to.

 

I'm also not gonna lie, I am mildly to moderately to severely afraid of being rolled by scum Fonti in this scenario because piggybacking off of what I just said about Vaimes I think in a team remaining of her and Vaimes that he would carry the kill because she could carry the endgame.

So her insisting that Vaimes would never want to endgame and thus would always carry the kill and that it doesn't say anything about who his last teammate was that he did carry the kill is actually points against her in my book because that's exactly something scum Font would say.

And, like, I get Font's general attitude / personality most of the time says things when she's sure about her reads but the way she just flat insisted Newcomb not get lynched D1 and told people no is not a good look either.

@Jan - I am currently suspecting you but can you talk to me a little about a scum Fonti world here? I know you expressed suspicion as well, and if you are town here your opinion is the most valuable to me in that matter.
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I wasn't trying to tilt you but ok bro

Don't use your substitution and push it as a reason for us to be thankful towards you, because that does nothing for you being super condescending lmfao

 

I dislike dumpstering people as "safe PoE" out of principle but especially after we burned all our mislynches in champs (AND in champs practice) doing basically that. Essentially, the strategy loses to deepwolves and in this gamestate we can pretty much ONLY lose to deepwolves so a strategy weak to them is not good.

As for his content, it's...I mean, the problem with hunting final scum (particularly final scum who have just replaced in) in this way is that it's really easy for him to just read the thread as though his role PM says town and post content in that frame of mind. Zen's inactivity kind of stings here. So like on the surface it looks like perfectly fine content but it's too easy to fake for me to be comfortable.

 

Gotcha, I'm sort of having that same problem, but I feel like that's a problem that's going to exist for the rest of the game unless we lynch him. I don't want it to distract in further phases.

 

Love you, Cobalt.

 

*squints*

 

*Sigh*.

I fucking hate mafia.

Lynch: Jan

If this isn't right, please end me tonight scum.

TIA.