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Magic and Logic

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by T3t, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    No. Those aren't ultraviolet light. Those are images in the visible spectrum representing ultraviolet light. This is fundamentally Plato's "men in the cave" problem, where the men shackled in the cave is your brain, and the man who left the cave and came back, trying to describe the world is your altered brain having processed UV light, and then been changed back and trying to process memories of something that it has no ability to process.

    Another way of thinking of this is trying to explain color to a person who was born blind. If you had them a piece of sandpaper and say "this is how red would feel if it were a texture" that doesn't mean that they're processing "red" it means that they're feeling sand paper and thinking "this must be what red would feel like if it were a texture."

    Your above images are just that: this is what UV light would look like if it were rendered in the visible spectrum - according to rules that blue represents UV (instead of say, red, orange, yellow, green, or purple), and the lighter the shade of blue, the more intense the UV light.

    Incidentally,
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    represents a mathematical equation rendered in the visual spectrum (where black represents an answer of 0 after a certain number of itterations, and the color represents how far from 0 the answer ends up going). This doesn't mean that we can, within our minds, process the infinite answers on this graph.
     
  2. T3t

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    Thanks for the explanation, Rin, but ultraviolet light was a bad example since it turns out the human mind can actually process it. Something further along the spectrum would work better, like x-rays or gamma rays.
     
  3. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    At what point do we all just agree that Gamp's law is not Gamp's law and that in fact, Rowling just wrote herself into a corner and needed a way to increase dramatic tension, so she made a desu ex bullshit?

    Yes, you can conjure and transfigure perfectly good and nutritional food.

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    Huh. I didn't know that. Interesting. Still, I think my example still works, since I posted a Mandlebrot set - again, a representation of all possible answers to an infinitely iterated mathematical equation. Even computers can only calculate a large number of the answers, but certainly not all of them, and even then, only iterate the equation a few thousand times for each answer, not infinitely.
     
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