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Mini Mafia #4 - A Mafia Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. Lexicat

    Lexicat Second Year

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    and what if I told you putting multiple votes on the same person to create a wagon would create pro-town pressure?
     
  2. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    Don't worry about it, it wasn't like I'd a huge amount of data to trawl through.

    @Lexicat: in your scenario who are Luckylee's scum buddies?

    @Sacrifice: would you mind making a case against Lungs?

    @Sesc: If Kalas is scum who, in your opinion, are his likely scum buddies?

    @Wetnurse/Rents: Post:mad:
     
  3. Lexicat

    Lexicat Second Year

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    Relational tells are awful with no scum flipped, Caesar. I'm not looking to call entire scum teams.

    At the moment, I dislike Lucky, Sesc and Kalas.

    Also, Lungs is p. town atm for me.
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    As valid a viewpoint as any other, I suppose. Thanks. Not sure I agree about Sesc, by the way but I see where you're coming from with Lucky and my opinion on Kalas is well documented.
     
  5. Sacrifice

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    Lungs Case Study
    #10 - RVS nonsense
    #13 - RVS nonsense
    #21 - Stops RVS, Asks Rents what counts as participation
    #23 - Agrees with Font, adds on that Vanilla townies should play aggressively
    #26 - States how a softlynch is better than hardlynch
    #29 - Highlights that town is a team
    #32 - post regarding Rents being a lurker
    #37 - Points out that his attention is on guljons(now Lexicat) and Luckylee, reads Font and Fishy town. Tells everyone to post.
    #39 - Highlights that scumhunting is better than rolefishing in closed set ups
    #42 - Asks for old game links. Does not fully support metagaming
    #47 - Continues to ask players to post
    #49 - meaningless chatter with Luckylee
    #52 - meaningless chatter with Luckylee
    #56 - Highlights the different levels of an "accusation" WRT Luckylee's post
    #86 - First read-wall
    #91 - Make-no-fucking-sense-post. Claims he is drunk.
    #128 - Second read-wall, asks Vira for a read-wall
    #130 - Says he doesn't trust anyone WRT my question
    #137 - More reads, regarding who and who are possibly in a scumteam, wants people to post read-walls
    #140 - Says he has same reads as Caesar on guljons.
    #142 - Figuring out "if player X is scum, how would player Y fit in"
    #157 - Declares he is abstaining, thinks that none of the 3 candidates at that point is scum. (Fishy, Sesc, Fontisian)
    #159 - points out that Luckylee is buddying or agreeing with him
    #171 - Case study for Vira and Caesar
    #175 - Asking everyone to post, with 1 hour left on the timer
    #177 - Refuses to discuss rolethings
    ---never voted---
    DAY ONE ENDS.
    DAY TWO BEGINS

    #217 - Thoughts on the no-lynch, claims that he thought he voted
    #219 - Answer WRT Luckylee question
    #239 - Notes that Fishy and Vira deaths put us back to square one, promises a Sesc read
    #244 - More reads.
    #262 - promises to post later.

    Looking at his posts, my analysis of him is that he really wants more information in the thread, as he constantly reminds people to post. Also, he provides read-walls, and updates them. At this point, I think he is +town.

    I, however, dislike his #91. That meaningless post that he claimed he posted drunk. He might be intentionally posting this way, for players to gain the idea that "Scum players will play cautiously and could not possibly post when drunk". I also do not like that he abstained his vote on Day One. Post #271 claims that he thought he voted, but we cannot prove it.

    ---------- Post automerged at 10:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 PM ----------

    The current vote counts are

    Sesc(2) - Wetnurse, Sacrifice
    Sacrifice(1) - Sesc
    Luckylee(1) - Lexicat

    for your information.
     
  6. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    Oh, and a request for Lungs when he gets a chance: would you mind analysing my case against Wetnurse?

    ---------- Post automerged at 15:11 ---------- Previous post was at 15:09 ----------

    Ebwop: Thanks Sacrifice.
     
  7. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Lexicat I think you're just pissing everyone off since 1. Nobody here knows you 2. You act like you're running shit 3. Your tone is really arrogant. Also while I am definitely lynchable, I'm not the only target. You tunneled on me and pretty much ignored everyone else and their opinions. Although I get why people would want to lynch me, my play has been shite. I'll definitely post after I eat.
     
  8. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    Just noticed you missed my vote for Kalas, Sacrifice.
     
  9. Sacrifice

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    oh my bad. let me correct that.

    Sesc(2) - Wetnurse, Sacrifice
    Sacrifice(1) - Sesc
    Luckylee(1) - Lexicat
    Kalas(1) - Caesar
    Abstaining - everyone else.

    This post filled me full of what.
     
  10. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    @Caesar: Kalas isn't Mafia, so I have no clue. Compare his interaction with Sacrifice. Is it important enough for you so that I use my time creating something entirely hypothetical?

    And what is your opinion on Sacrifice, and his posts today?


    And Sacrifice, I don't see what is wrong with Luckylee's post. Actually, that is exactly what I was thinking.


    @The rest of you: Where the fuck are you? I feel like I'm currently all alone in Mafialand.
     
  11. Aekiel

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    VOTE TALLY

    Votals:
    Sesc (2): Wetnurse, Sacrifice
    Kalas (1): Caesar
    Sacrifice (1): TMNTurtwig/Sesc
    Luckylee (1): Lexicat/Guljons

    Abstaining (4): Fontisian, LuckyLee, Lungs, Rents, Kalas.

    With 10 alive, it is 6 to hard lynch and 4 to soft lynch.

    Time To End Of Day: 2 days, 7 hours and 23 minutes
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2013
  12. Lungs

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    GAHHHHHH, good morning this ain't Vietnam still, I slept 16 hours for real?

    Lots of stuff on the docket.

    I hate how everyone's disregarding my drunk post, there are reads in there worth something. It's kinda like this - if someone can ignore all the what-ifs and intricacies while playing mafia, they could probably establish a baseline of some sort to figure out where the intricacies and worries spring from? Idk, I think that spending a little bit of drunk!time analyzing posts is worth something, if not to everyone else because all-time-fail coherency, but worth something to me.

    Why is everyone bullying me? :\

    rofl.

    DUMB SHIT ASIDE.

    Everyone seems to be reading my things on a metric of much I buddy people. At this point I'm not sure if everyone knows what that word means anymore. Who have I truly "buddied" - maybe Fishy? I disagreed with a Fishy lynch when mostly everyone was ready to step on him.

    But agreeing with someone + giving them a town read isn't buddying them.

    That type of view is counterproductive, and exactly the type of paranoia that should be avoided.

    Because that's the type of paranoia that's probably the most easy to exploit. So what some scum could do is probably say something like "there's pressure on me? BUT TOWNY X IS BUDDYING TOWNY Y WE SHOULD LYNCHHHHHHHHH THEM".

    #251: What the fuck is that?

    Lexi: hey you! Why Luckylee - there's probably something to be said for both sides of this argument, which has already been said, but this is mostly a rhetorical question anyway.

    Why is explaining a townread an anti-town practice?

    Sesc #270: I think Sacrifice's posts are really, really bizarre. I hope he's not obtusely rolehinting, but it fucking looks like it.

    I TOLD YOU (collective you) NOT TO ROLE-THINGS. I WILL FUCKING LYNCH YOU, MOTHERFUCKER.

    Also, #285: fuck you I get drunk when I want to get drunk.

    NO MORE SHENANIGANS.

    CAESAR ON WETNURSE:

    I like the analysis of his first read wall. Not sure if wordchoice of "magnificent scum" matters because we're dlp and we like our dramatic word choices and we've probably all learned over the years (holy shit, years) that reading grammar/word choice is stupid. You seem to buy into the idea that Wetnurse might be lynching Sesc on opportunity as well? Which is what I think.

    @Sesc: how did you come to the conclusion that Kalas isn't mafia?

    ... <- Swedish House Dots
     
  13. Sacrifice

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    This is his post.

    Lexicat was aggroing him hard the moment she entered the game. This no doubt put pressure on Luckylee, in which in this case, he completely snapped.

    This is the way I view Luckylee's post.
    "Lexicat I hate you for pinpointing me above everyone else, I'm not the only suspicious one, why don't you go lynch someone else, why lynch me, I know my play sucks, but WHY ME. kthxbye, I post later"
    Exactly which part of that post is not wrong? If anything it spells desperate scum to me.
     
  14. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    @Sesc: Alright. On Sacrifice: his posting today has seemed a little off to me today, yeah. That analysis on Fishy's protect target was bad. Tell you what, I read back over his posts and give a more in-depth analysis later.

    @Lungs: Thanks. The word choice thing just struck me as odd. I mainly included it for the contrast with his next post anyway. I have another question, if you don't mind: who is your main scum suspect?

    @Rents/Wetnurse: RAGE

    ---------- Post automerged at 16:58 ---------- Previous post was at 16:57 ----------

    *Tell you what I'll read*

    What has become of my typing?
     
  15. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    @Lungs: He used his braiiin.

    That said my apologies for not postinf last night. Long day and work in the morning. I'll get thoughts in posts in about 4 hours.
     
  16. Sacrifice

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    Sesc asked for it. I did my best thinking the most possible protection target. Fuck if you(any one of you) don't like it.

    Okay then.
     
  17. Sesc

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    Sacrifice, as I said. He posted my thoughts exactly. I nearly exploded when I read lexicat's post. The only reason I didn't post what Luckylee did was that I don't want the thread to get bogged down over it. And if you can't see that her posts are completely beyond the pale, I kinda don't wonder anymore about the state of your posts >_>


    @Lungs: Thanks. The way everyone was ignoring it, I wondered if I was playing a different game. And I should hope it's nothing to do with rolestuff. Reverse-gloating over the no-lynch? #251 and the mile of wat? I don't even want to believe that could be anything Town related.

    As for Kalas, well, regardless of how one thinks about Sacrifice, I think we can note that Sacrifice and Kalas together do not work. Sacrifice confused him and Vira, and the way they went at each other -- I don't see that working.


    @Caesar; if I find some time I'll do the Kalas thing later tonight. I had looked through his posts anyway, so I do have some notes, I only stopped when I realised there were better targets.
     
  18. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    Just noticed that Aek left Kalas out of his list of abstentions.

    ---------- Post automerged at 18:08 ---------- Previous post was at 18:05 ----------

    Ebwop: Lucky, I see you're reading the read. Would you do me (and yourself) a favour and make a case against someone? I don't really care who.
     
  19. Aekiel

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    Edited in, thanks for catching that.
     
  20. Aerylife

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    So I read through the thread and I found some pretty interesting things about Sacrifice. He has been focused on Sesc since
    Now whats weird is that is somewhat meta gamey, yet when Guljons said

    He replied with

    It just seems like he is doubt casting, yet doing the same thing in his next post.
    Before Fishy died he immediately backtracks when it looks like were going to Lynch Fishy

    Without explaining why. Which means he suspected or knew Fishy was town, yet didn't say anything against his lynching. He then jumps onto the Vira Lynch wagon. After Day 2 weirdness I bumped the thread to try to get some discussion, and he back pedals like a champ with

    He then goes on the defensive about his Vira Lynch. Lexicat joins and pressures me, in an arrogant tone. Surprisingly Sesc defends me, but I'm guessing it's more along of lines of him disliking her tone than acutally deffending me. Or him weirded out that she tunneled me and ignored pretty much everyone else. She then distances by asking asking Sacrfice

    To which he replies that

    I take this as him wanting to get rid of more experienced player who is accusing him, rather than me the derp town. TLDR Lynch Vote Sacrfice

    Fake Edit** I didn't check my formatting/grammar so I'll say sorry in advance
     
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