Honestly I kinda wanted to just sheep other people who are at a more objective standpoint than me and actually have slept (mostly you)

Um Rubicon sounds kinda roboty and considering he's still so damn sure fonti is town I might revote him idk

 

talk to me once you've said a single town thing in the entire game

 

Not really. There'd be no more reason to believe him tomorrow if we don't believe him today.

 

I'm good with whatever plan but I'd be p surprised if I wasn't nightkilled regardless

 

Do you not rate this as a towny thing to say?

 

Works as long as delphine doesnt die or gets roleblocked.
Or rubicon is a scum pr (rolecop etc)

If he is scum he can
-> pick a partner = true check
-> pick a town = 95% chance of hitting a vt. = nothing = true check


Forcing Rubicon to do something works out fine as long as we can guarantee delphine is town and won't die.

Forcing him to out delphines action is the better play, because if he is a scum pr he can visit anybody and be tracked to them.
Guessing delphines action is way better/harder, esp if we give her the room to do whatever she wants.

 

i mean let's put it this way - if I were mafia on a team like fonti/lochness/x i sure as fk wouldn't have fonti be the one visiting with the prospects of her getting tracked or seered or something. I find loch's lack of visiting highly clearing and your post with such suspicion of her a bit much. if we confirm you i'll roll with that and then we're in an interesting spot (do I shoot delphine with THAT claim LOL)

but the discussion will be good tomorrow because the worlds have kind of coalesced into a picture that is easier to decipher considering who wants to do what and having to make a world of 3 from what we're left with post claims/lynch/night kill(s)

 

Still not doing town things.

I'm not really thinking about that right now.

in agreement about the sleep thing tho

 

lol ok at least that one made me laugh

 

Fuck me, I don't actually want to kill Rubicon without dragging more information out.

We don't have to lynch today with dLGN's kill. Maybe sleep?

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No, he'll just die. Nhhhhhh.

 

Fonti would have been likely to be the one making kills in the first 2 nights, because she was highly townread.

Noone but yourself was going that hard on her (i made a case on her, but noone followed up at any time).

The most townread person is the least likely to be tracked.
The only reason for someone else to deliver the nightkill would be because they were afraid of a watcher.

Your statement of her not making kills if she is scum, is flat out wrong, sorry.

 

agree with this

 

uh
Maybe I'm just way too tired, but that makes no sense? I've been tracker a few times before and never thought a negative result meant much unless the other scum were already dead, or outed as targeting someone different.

Someone else should weigh in on whether I'm wrong, I guess.

 

LOL that's... interesting

but we may as well lynch whoever I'm going to shoot because now a tracker is likely to die over myself and I can save my shot (even though at this point it is likely only going to expedite a win or loss, not really change the game)

 

I feel like we can bring dlgn's power into this plan somehow to make it more effective.

 

I mean, my setup spec based assumption has been that there are two scum actioning on any given night (kill + their own PR) while most of the town aren't actioning, so null result makes someone statistically likely town

 

Tracker is good late game, after you have reduced the number of scums.

Before that it is mostly a shot in the dark in a sea of wifom.

Scum want to dodge tracker and watcher, which means if they kill an obvious target, they do'nt want to send the most townread scum.

As long as they believe that they are dodging a possible watcher with their kill, they will always send the most townread scum, unless that person is a scum pr, and has to do another nightaction already.
(you are not allowed to do you nightaction + scumkill in most games, unless you are the last scum)

That is just my opinion .. and it doesn't really matter and we should move on.

 

certainly not enough to clear someone who is otherwise scummy, with the poe we have

 

Why don't you confirm your vig shot, dlgn?

>_>

 

good idea, let's make the plan have more moving parts. That's worked well in the past.

The point dLGN is making is that on any given scum team, lochness could reasonably be considered a low value player, so having her take on the risk of making the NK is logical.