Quid isn't scum. It's Waco.

Jan is the only kill that isn't awful for scum-Rubicon.

 

Hi, Tom. Let me redirect you to this lovely number.

Tl;dr- I don't see Scum!Waco at this point. Should I reread and reassess? Sure. Let me go confbias myself some more into a corner and be wrong once more!*

*Zen is not a happy boy. Zen is suffering from acute meta-mishaps syndrome.

 

Oh right. I remember now.

You could lynch Rubicon with me.

 

Waco's #1452 is one of the reasons why I'm not feeling Scum!Waco and unfortunately why I'm not so hot with a Scum!Rubicon world right now.

That leaves you and Quid. I haven't given you much scrutiny, less than Quid this Game. I'm going to have to do so sooner or later.

 

Why does that post make you think Waco is town?

 

Town-clearing you and the point he makes is decent.

 

He doesn't town-clear me. He asks you if you think he should town-clear me.

All this shows is that Waco, as mafia, has trouble seeing me as mafia. On top of already having trouble seeing fonti as mafia and thinking she was unlynchable.

 

Also, in response to Tom's #1463, I'm a complete moron for forgetting about dLGN in the possible scum pile.

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/sigh/

Okay then. I'm too mentally drained to put in the effort at this point, and frankly the game isn't a great deal of fun right now. Let's just get the Lynch over with and hope(yet again) for a Game Over from Eido.

Lynch Vote Waco.

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We have three lynchs available to LYLO if the game hasn't ended by that point.

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And yet again I don't pause to read over what I write, we have three lynchs to LYLO including toDay's.

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And on that note, I'm going to bed.

 

tom I don't recall, though I feel like your name is new.

Zenzao, I don't want an essay, I never expect that. But what I want is a response to my defence. Not "Quid feels scummy" because the world and their dog knows that. Not "Quids posts at EoD were shit". I want why scum!me is creating a ruckus at EoD. Why am I trying to rock the wagon on HF? It would be so easy to sheep fonti. If I'm scum, I need a mislynch there eventually, so it's silly to stick my neck out.

I'm not saying EoD3 should clear me - that could all be a gambit. I'm asking why does EoD3 make you suspicious? Sell me a narrative on why what I did then came from scum.

And secondly, because I've not heard a response from anyone, sell me a narrative on why I voted Von and disappeared. I don't need a like line by like, just go from memory and gut. Give me a world in which that is rational from me.


On Waco. What makes me certain is what made me want him yesterday, rereading D3. There's a man who isn't very invested in the thread, who's trying to keep a list of suspects long. He's not engaging with suspicion on him, or with his suspects - Miner quotes something of his with a "why doesn't this include you" and he never responds. I also asked him for a narrative on me, again, no response. He's half assing it.

Look at today. Tom clears me, so it's not him, Waco widens the suspects. Rubicon, you and even Tom have all been pitching in effort, he doesn't really care.

Oh and fonti said Waco would do these kills. I have no meta so I'll follow that.

But if it's not him...idk. you're the only one widening suspects, but you're not scum. Tom, but Tom never shuts down my lynch today. Miner dies tonight. I really don't see Rubicon approaching Von as he did.

It's Waco.

 

Bleh, I hate insomnia some nights. Feels like ten minutes of sleep so far and none more forthcoming. On 3DS.

Quid, you make a fair argument. I haven't been looking at you from a 'why would town/scum!Quid make these posts' angle, I haven't been trying to read your alignment, just seeing the surface and going from there. So consider yourself cleared.

I do feel better about lynching Waco now. And if he does flip scum, I'm going to be belated satisfied for thinking he was mid-D2, even if I was swayed otherwise afterwards.

 

Just checking in. Heading to work later.

I think we should follow the plan from yesterday and not secondguess ourselves here. As Zen said, we have 3 lynches before we lose.

 

I'm trying to town clear you and was wondering if anyone else was seeing it as I was.

I don't understand your comment about me & Fonti. I had Fonti as my top town since day 1. Why should I have been thinking about her as mafia?

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Actually Quiddity I didn't expand anything. I said there were 5 people who have been considered as scum by people including myself. Safe to say i'm in my own PoE, and I'm still think Rubicon isn't either. My PoE is still 3 people, so please quit with the lies.

Yes scum!Waco commit suicides by shooting the only player town reading him, and has been pushing the lynch off me. Logical. It's not like basically every player alive has voted me in the past two days (excpet maybe Miner, idk), oh wait they have.

Uh, Quiddity, I answered that yesterDay in #1255.

If there's a Miner question I haven't answered, feel free to point it out to me and I'll take care of it.

I've engaged with my scum reads. I went back and forth with tom & HF yesterday, and while I didn't with dLGN, that was more related to the fact that he wasn't really available.

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Miner, this was the last reads post I can find from you. Is this still where your at in terms of game-state?

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I'm kinda tempted to move Quiddity up a little, if only because it doesn't make a ton of sense for him to ball out to get me lynched like this if he knows I'm town and will have to fight on for a couple of days after I flip town. (I mean yeah it could probably be played off given how many people are scum reading me atm, but yea)

 

Alright, I apologize. I mean, this still isn't a narrative, but whatever.

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Spoiler

This Miner post, Waco.

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Waco, you have to go for gold here. Sure, font didn't want you, but she was certain on HF and is bound to reconsider, and in unpredictable ways.

You're up for the lynch today, no matter what fonti says. With her gone though, I might be a viable wagon.

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Probably won't be around from now. Don't screw this up.

 

Ah, must of missed it with the new page, and the back & forth I was having with HF. Yes, I was slow to move to Vaimes, but it was basically I was holding out trying to get a wagon on a higher scum read from an earlier day vote. tom had me and von at the same level, with multiple people (including Rubicon where he tried to CFD to later, and you, where I was before moving to von) as more scummy then both Von & I and didn't go there. All 3 were united under the "he's not towny, but let's leave him for tomorrow cause he'll be easy to prove," which to me said "hey, we're not trying to call Von town cause he's gonna flip soon, but let's try to keep him in the game a bit longer."

Frankly I disagree. There's no going for gold if i'm dead anyway. Maybe Fonti reconsiders on me but so what. In the current situation, I'm probably dead today. In a Fonti reconsiders world, I'm probably dead today. In a Fonti still town-reads me world, I might see tomorrow. I don't see why trading that protection for the chance to open your wagon makes sense today, still needing 3 mislynches. If I wanted to do that, Wouldn't it be better for me to wait a day or two until I'm closer and need the mislynch? As you so eagerly point out, I have a couple other people in my PoE, both of whom I pushed on harder than you yesterday. It'd make far more sense to get on lynch on one of them toDay and worry about you down the road.

 

All but the "know hes gonna flip soon" part are completely correct wrt my thinking. And frankly, I stand by it. It's cool we lynched him early (since he was scum) but it's not like scumvaimes is endgaming.
Whats your point?

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Tell me about this.

 

Really, you're going to contest that part. You said it yourself, scum!vaimes is not end-gaming. Vaimes was being voted by half the game, Fontisian was pushing really hard on him by EoD2, with another 3 at the minimum saying "he's not towny but...", knowing Vaimes scum-play, you really think he was going much further if I'd flipped town as the D2 lynch?

My point is, that statement feels like you're trying to delay Vaimes' death to get an extra mislynch before Vaimes goes down.

 

Well, not knowing he was scum I did not know that's what was going to happen. I thought he'd dazzle us when his [whatever he was doing] was over and we'd never have to talk about it again.
So yeah I wanted to lynch someone else. Was pretty obvious. But not for that reason basically.
Shrug.

Keep going though. I can totally see Vaimes' buddy doing that (or something similar).
You know, like you joining my Rubicon CFD

 

Yeah, you only used it as your reason for not voting Von, but it wasn't for that reason...

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If you had been really interesting in lynching one of your scum reads on D2, you would have pushed on them earlier in the day, rather then waiting for a late CFD on one of them. You can't say you scum read me on D2 when you hopped on my wagon as we see below.

If you were so concerned on lynching your scum reads on D2, you had ample time, and hey there was already a wagon on Quddity, which you ignored.

 

What? Why would I push early when I can watch wagons form and try to change them when the heat is on?

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dLGN, where you at?