You must hate One Piece then.

Rather, Shounen in general.

 

Ichigo is smart, for a shonen protagonist.

 

I like the genre, but yes, I generally speaking hate the protagonists. Often they have redeeming qualities, but usually it isn't enough. With Naruto's case, nowhere close enough.

 

Hisss. Booooo! Boooooo!!

Wind Chakras 4 Lyfe.

 

Kaguya should have never happened. Madara was at least a legitimately skilled fighter. He didn't need Zetsu whispering tips into his ear. He could also see though clones and so wouldn't have gotten tricked by them multiple times.

Sakura would have been stabbed while she tried to sneak up on Kaguya because that's what the Byakugan is for.

 

I would have made Naruto less of a kid's show and more akin to a series like Berzerk or Death Note. Hyper intelligent protagonist as the ninja, but I would keep the power levels more to the original premise

The Zabuza-Kakashi fight could be considered an upper tier fight with Kage's just a little bit more skilled.

The series would have focused less on "World Peace! Ninja!JESUS!" and more on the repercussion of the shinobi coming into conflict with normal people and the daiymo armies. Politics/Assassinations would have played a much larger role.

Also...the romance would have been fully developed as opposed to the crap we got. Doesn't matter what pairing, but it would have been developed.

 

How would I have tweaked the show?

There's a couple ways I could have gone. Have Naruto actually have/show hatred for the civilians/ninja around him that made his life a living hell and eventually leave the village and show his adventures as a missing nin. This would obviously be a lot darker so may go beyond tweaking.

The other way, thats an actual tweak and not a complete rewrite is simply change Naruto's "friends"/team. It would break the InoShikaCho thing, but Naruto/Shikamaru/Ino team. Naruto would develop actual good relationships within that team and not the bullshit, abusive one he had on team 7.

Naruto's hyperactive, Shikamaru's a bit lazy, and Ino will be their center always grounding them, admonishing Naruto for being to hyper, and Shikamaru for being to lazy. I think in this team Naruto would have actual character development for Naruto instead of being the same stock character he was from the beginning.

 

I wish we could have seen more interaction with Hiruzen. Let's say Hiruzen noticed Naruto's horrible chakra control and thought him early on a few control exercises.

random scenes:

Naruto is 7 and tells his surrogate grandfather, that he just doesn't get the leaf exercise. Hiruzen knows of Naruto's abysmal attention span and wants him to come to his office where he can learn to meditate and he himself can keep an eye on him while enjoying eachother's company.

A year later in Hiruzen's office. Naruto balances a few leaves while being thought a bit about history.

Again a year later. Instead of letting Naruto run up trees unsupervised
he wants him to lie on the floor, feet at the wall and search for the right feeling.

It wouldn't be extensive personal training, because [insert reason - maybe no favorites as Hokage?]. Naruto would still be bad, because [insert another reason - he only wants to impress Hiruzen and not the teachers?]

It get's to the point where Hiruzen is Zabuza to his Haku. Naruto wants to be Hokage/the strongest so he can protect Hiruzen's dream, a safe Konoha. He doesn't give a single fuck about the people.

The same goes for Jiraiya's dream of a peaceful world. After hearing the term jinchuuriki and seeing Haku's sacrifice he thinks of himself as expendable as long as the dreams of his loved ones (Kakashi, Tsunade, Shizune...) live on.

After the Gaara fight, Naruto wants to finish off Gaara, because he was a threat to Sandaime's Konoha, but Temari stands in his path.
Seeing this he urges Gaara to find his own loved ones, looking pointedly at Temari, and tells them to go home.

He still get's Tsunade, because he knows Konoha needs a strong Hokage.

He wants Konohamaru to become a strong Hokage, so he motivates him as a rival while simultaneously training him in memory of Hiruzen.

Personalitywise he should have come after Jiraiya.
Happy, cheerful and full of mischief but deep down he has a low opinion of himself and he lines up his needs and dreams behind everyone else's.

During his training trip he get's an introduction into wind chakra in Suna, where he grows close to Gaara and Temari.
(because Naruto/Temari ftw).

These things would have made me a happy camper. What I got ...

 

Pretty sure this is done. It's called Life in Konoha's ANBU.

 

I know, but I would have liked to see it in canon to have at least some character depth.

 

My best Naruto fanfics have been where Naruto at least has a larger repertoire of Jutsus and the fights are much more intense and fast.

Naruto's compensation had a really good alternate story. And I like Life in Konhas ANBU.

Its for a good cause was also a nice light do over but diverges quite early from canon. Atleast it doesnt have Kaguya

 

The Last: Naruto The Movie Complete Plot (Spoilers)

The movie’s intro is a mix of 2D/3D in black and white, focusing on the history of the Naruto world, starting from Kagura and Rikudo, the story of the Senju and Uchiha up until Naruto and Sasuke’s final battle as enemies, to the theme of green sleeves. As the story begins, we see Hinata as a child (before Naruto began) being bullied by 3 kids as Naruto shouts at them and then gets beat up. The bullies grab a hold of Naruto’s red muffler and stretch and crushes it before they leave. Hinata picks up the scarf as Naruto makes sure Hinata is ok, he leaves.

Years later in the Ninja Academy, Iruka asks the class “Who would be the last person you would spend your days with, if the world were to be destroyed?”, Naruto throws his as a paper airplane and says that he has “No family and no friends, so it doesn’t matter!”. We see child Hinata noticing Naruto and blushing. After that, Naruto looks over Konoha from the top of the building as the camera begins to circle around him, going from Kid Naruto to Shippuden Naruto and finally to present day Naruto as a grown up.

We then see Hinata and Hanabis father as well as some other Hyuugas being targeted by some mysterious ninjas whose main attacks are a Dragonball like Ki blast. Then we meet our main antagonist, Toneri. Then it transitions back to Naruto where he is teaching young male ninjas how to use Taijutsu, suddenly the young female students from within the school scream “Naruto-senpai!!”, “He’s so cool!!” and other phrases, it seems our beloved titular character has become quite the ladies-man, even Ino admits this to the rest of her team as they watch on.

As Naruto is eating his favourite Ichiraku ramen, slightly grown up Konohamaru asks Naruto for his help going through his grandpa’s (the 3rd Hokage) stuff he found. Konohamaru has a dark chinstrap; with this chinstrap and new hair style, his look resembles a lot like Asuma.

It then switches to Hinata where she is knitting a red muffler with a huge smile on her face. Whilst this is happening, girls from not only Konoha, but from the other Hidden villages all gather to give Naruto presents, this worries Hinata and once she has completed the Muffler she is torn between giving it to him at the time or waiting until the next day. Hanabi appears to show off her new mini Ninja strap attached to her Kunai and proceeds to poke fun at Hinata that she still hasn’t announced her love to Naruto.

At the Five Kages Summit, Kakashi explains to the other Kage that the moon is slowly showing signs of deterioration and that it could bring doom to the Earth. As Naruto and friends are eating ramen at Ichiraku, Hinata appears to give Naruto the red muffler. She gets shy seeing the girls wanting to eat with Naruto, this pushes Hinata to run home and Sakura gets angry at Naruto for not noticing how Hinata feels for him.

The next scene shows Toneri’s Ninjas run into the Hyuuga mansion running through the house (using 3D) and capturing Hanabi, after they capture her, Sai is shown in a forest on the end of a cliff overlooking Konoha. Although at first unrelated, a crow like bird with one of Toneri’s Ninjas riding it appears as Sai then draws and summons some birds to try and take them down, but he’s unsuccessful.

As Hinata runs away from Naruto and Sakura she sits down on a swing in a park, Toneri then approaches her in a kind manner, then uses a small green orb to knock her unconscious as one of his bigger ninjas grabs and runs away with her.

At this point, Naruto appears and runs after her, taking down several of Toneri’s Ninjas. After taking down the Ninjas and saving Hinata, a meteor from the moon flies over Konoha and lands just past the Hokage Mountain. A team led by Shikamaru, which includes; Naruto, Hinata, Sakura and Sai meets with the current Hokage, Kakashi. Kakashi bestows a special clock only given to kages which is a clock which counts down to the moons destruction. Kakashi then tells everyone about a spring which has been heard to the last whereabouts of Toneri.

Shikamaru’s team reaches the spring in which they realize that the spring’s water may contain water but they will never become wet. After jumping into the spring and through the water, they come to an area with green glowing orbs in which everyone falls asleep. Suddenly the earlier visions of Naruto are shown, as well as the Chuunin exam battle against Kiba and finally his battle against Pain.

Naruto then visits past thoughts once again, except he views it from Hinata’s perspective. Naruto views the earliest memory, the question when Naruto was in the ninja academy “Who would be the last person you would spend your days with, if the world were to be destroyed?”. He notices that Hinata wrote “Naruto Uzumaki”, he sees when Hinata gives him the medicine in the chuunin exam as Kurenai says “She’s giving her medicine just to you!”, and another memory when Hinata overcame her shyness and tried to save Naruto against Pain and ended her speech by saying “..Because I love Naruto!”.

The final flashback he views is a recent memory where he sees Sakura and Hinata talking after Hinata leaving Ichiraku, he notices that she wanted to give him something, and this is when he realizes that Hinata has always loved him. All of these previous memories were genjutsu traps by Toneri, in which Sakura saves them all with her advanced powers of disarming genjutsu.

The team all jump into the dry spring, Naruto shows how shy he is for the first time with Hinata then proceeds to jump into the dry spring. When this happens, Toneri appears and talks to Hinata, he says that Hinata is the Byakugan Princess and that he wants to marry her, it then skips to everyone arriving on the other side of the dry spring minus Naruto. Naruto then jumps back to Hinatas aid as he tries to attack Toneri but fails due to Toneri’s transportation techniques.

On the other side of the spring a giant spider is awoken in which the other members of Shikamaru team attack it, with Sakura landing the final blow. Naruto defeats Toneri, but it turns out that Toneris body is actually not his body but a puppet. You then see both Hanabi and the real Toneri, with bandages over their eyes. Shikamaru’s team then finds a new world with a massive ocean and a floating world with an artificial sun. They split into teams as Naruto and Hinata find Hanabi’s special kunai, Naruto wants to ask about something but Hinata ignores it. Hinata works on a new red muffler for Naruto.

As they walk and travel the world in their smaller teams they come across an ancient ninja cave. After entering it, a man appears and repeats “Byakugan, there is a Byakugan user here!” After this he releases an orb in which Hinata sees a flash of 2 armies, followed by destruction. After this, the man melts and dies. Hinata is seen again knitting the red muffler for Naruto in a rock filled pond. Naruto then approaches Hinata and explains “I’m not here because I love you or because I want to help you, I’m here to save Hanabi!”, Hinata then asks several times for what exactly Naruto said and then decides to tell her exactly how he feels. After Naruto confesses to Hinata, Toneri appears on a mini bridge-like ship in which Hinata gives Naruto his muffler and proceeds to ride upon Toneris mini ship. Toneri reveals to Naruto that Hinata is going to marry him and that Naruto is in the way.

Of course Naruto is upset and proceeds to attack Toneri, in the end he uses his strongest Rasengan, in which Toneri uses his own nameless attack which turns Narutos attack against him and blows a hole in the world, burning his new red muffler and Narutos pride. Back on Earth, the Raikage brings out his special cannon weapon which has never been used before. Kakashi then reads the Kage only clock on his palm as he sees that the clock is counting down to the end of the Earth. Hinata is unconscious laying a king size bed within a massive castle in the other world, as she is sleeping Toneri begins to read Hinatas mind and sees that she thinks of Naruto, this angers Toneri. It is revealed that he has taken Hanabi’s eyes to help in his plan, he then explains about the fact that Toneri is the last of Homura Otsutsuki’s clan (the younger brother of Hagoromo Otsutsuki), the reason he needs the Byakugan is the last step in his plan in which to open a great power that can destroy the Earth and re-begin it anew.

As Toneri shows Hinata throughout her house, she learns that he is the only human on the planet and that everyone in the castle is a puppet. He then explains to her about his ultimate power known as the “Tenseigan”. Hinata remembers her view of the flash from the previous old man’s memory, which was two armies fighting against each other, one army had the same emblem as the emblem on Toneris clothes. One of the clan members had a big orb which destroyed the other clan in one fell-swoop. The above orb is held and hidden away by Toneri. It then transitions to Sai and Shika fly on his drawn birds as they look for a way into the special moon.

A scene in which a beaten and battered, Hiashi Hyuuga (Hinata and Hanabi’s father) collapses in a desert as a shadow is seen standing over him, that shadow is Sasuke Uchiha. As Hinata and Toneri settle down for dinner, many islands float around Toneri’s castle. One of the floating islands seems unique compared to the other, this is when Hinata asks Toneri and he responds with “That is the temple dedicated to Hamura Otsutsuki, my ancestor.” Hinata, alongside Toneri look into the temple as they see an item similar to the Tenseigan, one of the puppet servants explains that it is a replica and not the real Tenseigan. Toneri asks Hinata if she could create him a scarf because that would make him very happy. After spending time creating a red muffler, Toneri talks to himself revealing that he has the Byakugan and he will complete the Ultimate Tenseigan.

Naruto lost a lot of chakra from losing to Toneri and feels down from Hinatas ‘betrayal’, Sakura then heals him which took 3 days. After waking up, Sai pokes fun at him and Shikamaru tries to make him man up. Naruto then notices Sakura resting from trying to save Naruto from nearly dying from Toneris attack. She tells him that Hinata has always loved him and that she needs him. Hinata then heads to the true area in which the Tenseigan is hidden. She finds the true Tenseigan, a huge yellow ball which resembles a sun with a unique mark in the center. As she attempts to destroy it Toneri and his guards capture her and label her a traitor. His jealous and feelings towards Hinatas betrayal to him lead to him destroying the red muffler that he asked Hinata to make for him.

He freezes her, using his techniques, right on the night before he marries her. The scene then goes to Naruto. After hearing what Sakura and the rest have to say, Naruto realizes that he cannot be down and that he needs to save Hinata. As the previous happens, the countdown clock on Shikamarus palm begins to hit its end. Toneri and Hinatas wedding begins, Shikamarus team then starts their attack on the moon to get into Toneri’s castle, Shikamaru uses his shadow techniques and latches onto a bird puppet as everyone follows on Sais birds, so they can fly into the entrance to the moon.

The team splits into 2 teams, Naruto and Shikamaru, and Sakura and Sai. Naruto runs in early and destroys a lot of Toneri’s puppets and finally disrupts Toneri and Hinta’s wedding. Toneri and Hinata run down a flight of stairs to escape Naruto as he takes down Toneris puppet guards. Meanwhile Raikage’s, special cannon is charged at 50%. As larger parts of the moon begins to crash down to the Earth, Gaara protects the Hidden Sand Village with Sand, Rock Lee and his students then gather into a massive Boomerang shaped form as they fly at a meteor heading towards Konoha.

Although Rock Lee and students destroy a meteor, a greater meteor heads towards Konoha. Hiashi Hyuuga’s body is seen thrown toward Kakashi as a figure flickers in front of the falling giant meteor. Kakashi whispers “You…”. As the giant meteor is destroyed we see the image of Sasuke with both the Sharingan and Rinnengan eyes say “He isn’t here, so I guess I have to protect this town”.

As Naruto finally catches up to Toneri and Hinata, Toneri then sends Hinata out as she tries to attack Naruto, he doesn’t believe Hinata would hurt him and he uses a technique to bring out the green orbs that Toneri uses that was manipulating Hinata before to attack him. As he does this, the eye transplant Toneri had from Hinata damages him due to the level up process. Toneri then comes to his senses and uses Shinra Tensei against Naruto pushing him against the wall. Sakura and Sai take down a ton of puppets before heading down to the bedroom in which Hanabi is held. They agree that Toneri taking her eyes is a terrible thing, before saving her.

Naruto and Hinata head to the Tenseigan, Hinata then warns Naruto that if you use non Hyuuga ninjutsu against the Tenseigan, your chakra will be eaten away. Hinata then uses her techniques, but to no avail the Tenseigan is not damaged. He grabs Hinatas hand and asks for her chakara so they can do a dual attack. The dual attack damages the Tenseigan, which explodes it into many pieces. It seems the pieces of the Tenseigan were gathered eyes from the Hyuuga clan since the Hyuuga have existed.

The Raikage and Killer Bee finally fire their special cannon which destroyed all meteors in range and all the gathered meteors around the Earth’s atmosphere. After saving both Hinata, Hanabi and the Earth, Shikamaru’s team celebrates as Naruto asks for the destroyed muffler that she had made for Toneri. Sakura interrupts with “But you have always wanted to make that for Naruto, right?” She agrees as Naruto takes the remaining amount of the destroyed red muffler and finally confesses his love for her.

Suddenly the clock on Kakashi and Shikamarus palm starts as it is not all over. A ginormous golem appears from beneath them all as Toneri explains that it is not all over! Naruto goes into Kyuubi mode, as he sends Kurama to take down the giant golem. We see Toneri as he goes into his final form, Rikudou (6 Paths) mode. Kurama knocks the Golem towards the Moon and continues to battle it. Although after several attacks the Golem begins to recover over and over. Meanwhile, Raikages cannon counts up to 100% once again, Kakashi, Gaara, Mei and Onoki ask for 1 hour until they decided to destroy the moon due to Shikamaru’s team still being there.

6 Paths Toneri and Kyuubi Naruto fight on the other side of the moon as the Giant Golem and Kurama. While this happens, Toneri locks Hinata in a big bird cage to watch their final battle. Toneri uses a new technique which is a massive sword that cuts the moon directly in half and catches Naruto in the blast. As every Hidden Village on Earth wonders what’s going on with the moon, we see Toneri laughing at the fact he has defeated Naruto, the man who has ruined everything he aimed to do.

The truth is that Naruto had survived and he begins to attack Toneri with his Kage Bunshin and Rasen Shuriken. Naruto aims to hit Toneri with the destroyed muffler and as Toneri charges up, he uses another sword technique and blast Naruto. This stops his Kyuubi mode as he runs at Toneri with the muffler in his hands and says “I will stop you with the muffler you destroyed that has given me love!!”, he then breaks through Toneris technique and punches Toneri against a hill on the moon. The Golem also freezes after Toneris defeat.

Hinata walks towards Hanabi and plucks out his eyes as Toneri screams in pain. Afterwards Toneri lets out a laugh regardless of having no eyes, this allows the Byakugan eyes that burst from the Tenseigan to float and gather on Toneris body. The Golem restarts his attacks against Kurama, although Kurama has enough time to shoot a blast against the Golem to push him away. The Byakugan eyes begin to fuse into Toneri, as he screams out in pain regretting his choice. As this happens Naruto starts to feel down and jumps towards Toneri attempting to save the giant Byakugan covered Toneri, in which the screen flashes to black.

Meanwhile Raikage is ready to shoot the cannon. Once the hour was up, a ninja symbol appears on the moon reading ‘Mission Complete’ is seen by Kakashi’s underling. The symbol was written by Kurama in which he complains to the team that ‘his writing is terrible’. Naruto saved Toneri in the end, although Hinata asks him to reside on Earth, Toneri says that he wants to live on the Moon alone.

The Earth is at peace, Naruto grabs Hinata’s hand as they jump through the Dry Spring from earlier. They smile at each other and holding hands as we see memories of both of them in the back ground. We then see Hinata and Naruto in the same hand held poses as they begin to get younger through past memories, we see current Naruto and Hinata then Shippuden Naruto and Hinata, Young Naruto and Hinata and finally very young Naruto and Hinata running hand in hand. Then Naruto asks Hinata to grab a hold of him as he says he wants to fly above and be with him as he uses a Rasengan to break him out of the dry spring cave.

After breaking up they appear in front of the actual moon in which Naruto and Hinata finally kiss. The last words before the credits are of Naruto saying “Hinata…. Thank you.” As the credits roll we see pictures of Naruto and Hinatas wedding happen. Naruto has his rose put on by Iruka, all of the males of the Konoha village are wearing suits and the females are all wearing Kimonos. During the black screen with credits we get one still picture of Sasuke continuing his journey as it goes back to the black screen with credits.

As the credits end we see a future Hinata knitting something as Naruto is outside on a balcony. Suddenly a door closing is heard as Bolt and Himawari come running towards Naruto saying “Daddy, come on let’s fight” as it starts to focus on a picture frame with Naruto and Hinata’s wedding picture along with the baby pictures of Bolt and Himawari.

We then hear Hinata say, “Don’t leave me out, I want to fight with you all”. After this scene we see concept art of Bolt and the color image of him from the final chapter of the Naruto manga where he is scolded by Naruto followed by “New Project Coming August 2015″.

 

Sure, count me in on that, too, for the most part.

 

Luffy's stupidity is hilarious while Naruto being stupid is mildly amusing.

 

That's because, IMNSHO, One Piece is a better manga than Naruto. I may even read it one day.

 

I find both their stupidity immersion breaking. I am not quite certain how people so idiotic are able to still be alive in these dangerous worlds...aside from deus ex machina/plot induced over powerness.

 

Luffy's stupidity comes in the form of meat gags and being an insomniac which is just for comedic relief. He was also a lot more naive but has slowly realized he can't be so happy go lucky anymore as their foes got stronger. I can hardly call Luffy's stupidity immersion breaking. You make it sound like he's borderline retarded or something.

Naruto on the other hand actually went to school to be a ninja and while the teacher's bar Iruka did what they could to not bother with him, once he graduated and became a ninja he had the resources at his disposal to better himself but he never did.

So its a lot more immersion breaking on Naruto's end because Luffy just decided when he was a kid he wanted to be a pirate to have fun and be free and Naruto had to pass the standards of an institution to be a Ninja yet for most of his ninja career, the stuff he did(and didn't do) should have gotten him killed 10 times over.

Honestly even for as powerful as Naruto got towards the end of the manga, 99% of it was simply power given not power earned due to the Kyuubi. Imagine Minato with the Kyuubi and what he would have achieved. Or Sasuke, Shikamaru, hell even Lee.

 

I only watched One Piece up to the first Arc with Smoker I believe. So that is the majority of my experience with One Piece. It sounds like it got better, but by that time there is just so much there that I don't feel the need to invest time in it.

 

Most folks recommend the manga over the anime, until you're farther along, just to cover ground faster.

Though honestly, with Toei at the helm of the anime, I think I prefer the manga in general. Still wishing Toei would die or somehow lose control of One Piece.

 

Yeah, even with One Piece having less fillers than Naruto (which is not sayin much, cause Naruto had tons over tons of them).