Sasuke is officially evil

hahahahahahahaha

 

Finall this shit ends. Back to Naruto plz.

And Chengar Qordath, I'm really enjoying your Naruto WIP. It's pretty awesome so far and I like the direction you are taking it.

Completely random Naruto canon question: It is mentioned that Naruto failed the genin exam a few times before, right? But yet he's the same age as Sakura, Sasuke, and all the other rookies. Did all of them fail the genin test 2 times as well? Or was Naruto offered two early genin tests? I find it hard to believe that the other rookies would fail the genin test given their overall skills. But I'm also pretty sure that Naruto isn't two years older than everybody else. Anyone have an answer to this?

 

I've never heard a good explanation for this either although it has been the premise for quite a few interesting fics.

 

Author fucked it up?

I just like to think that he failed exams each year, yet was given a go to the next year classes. Heck, that kind of shit happens in my country.

So, end of year exams are there to show how much you've grow, and yet only the last one really matters in konoha.

Or you can just ignore these plot holes and move along.

 

Every mention of his age puts Naruto at the same age as the rest of the Rookie 9. Also, he's already on the short side in Part I, but being shorter than everyone in the class when he's two years older than them would be a pretty big stretch. The big difference in height between him and Team Gai also is hard to justify if he was older than all of them.

The best explanation I've ever heard for the age discrepancy is to posit that Naruto got early admission into the Academy. We know ninja academy admission dates must be pretty flexible since people like Kakashi and Itachi were graduating at younger ages than Naruto and his peers were when they started at the acadmy. Putting the jinchuriki into the ninja academy a couple years early would make sense; if not for the fact that it would have given Danzo a chance to control him and turn him into nothing more than a living weapon Naruto probably would have been in special training from the start.

By the way, glad to know you like Cutting Loose.

 

Naruto joined the academy 2 years earlier than his classmates, at the age of six.

During the Chuunin Exam Kiba vs. Naruto fight, there is a flashback of Kiba laughing at Naruto for sucking at henge even though he's been in the academy for 2 years longer than the rest of the rookies.



Also:

I miss Pain.

 

As do we all; an interesting villain with incredibly strong but balanced powers and reasonable (if twisted) motivations is a lot better than Sasuke's current "Evil-Hate makes me strong!" incarnation who constantly uses the "Pull new powers out of my ass" jutsu.

 

Ah. Didn't know that. I might have to go watch that episode again. I thought they all joined the academy at the same age (7). That does make sense though, and I do find fics featuring Naruto graduating on time or a year earlier than the Rookies to be interesting (such as Chengar's).

 

That's your subconscious trying to tell you that you should write more Houses of the Holy XD.

On the fic: I'm hoping that whatever little secret thing Itachi gave to Naruto is some super hax sharingan nullifying power. I'd love to see Naruto just pwn the crap out of Sasuke when Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o aren't available anymore (cuz lets face it, Sasuke has nothing else that can touch Naruto at this point).

 

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I hate to say this, but I'm pretty sure that Kishimoto's forgotten all about that scene. Either that or it's some power that'll manifest during the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke that's shaping up to never happen. 'Sides, what is little Naru supposed to do against the God-Machine Eye? Pull out a new jut--

Oh wait, I almost forgot: He's a one trick pony.

 

New chapter was made of fail, and possible redemption.

Danzou's Sharingarm was pretty much consumed by Hashirama's tree that he'd created. Madara justified this by saying that the tree, essentially, required a constant flow of chakra. "Hashirama's chakra isn't easy to control".

The fail comes from Sasuke killing Danzo, who, let's face it, is probably one of the strongest ninja currently alive and breathing. Every single one of Sasuke's meaningful victories came at the hands of strokes of luck or idiocy. Deidara killed himself, and Itachi was suffering from a disease that should have killed him two years before that, iirc.

As many people have already stated, Sharingan is probably the most OP tool in the entire series, although if anything is better, it's the Rinnegan. Anyway, Sasuke said something like "Itachi will have to be satisfied with you." This leads me to assume that Sasuke took Itachi's eyes and gave himself the Eternal Mangekyou, and, knowing the way Kishimoto will most likely take canon, every time you add a Sharingan to yours (i.e. creating the EM) your Sharingan becomes exponentially more powerful. This would explain Sasuke's All-Mighty Susano'o.

Anyway, Sasuke stabbing Danzo through Karin was actually interesting, but Sasuke is forgetting one thing, apparently. Danzo can just bite Karin and he'll be fully healed, though at the possible expense of killing her since he's currently suffering from a fatal wound.

Anyway, the possible redemption comes from the fact that Sasuke used a genjutsu, and apparently a relatively low-powered one considering the location and area covered, to kill Danzou. We have hope for The Most Useless Branch Of The Ninja Arts!

 

I don't think that would work; Sasuke bit her just a short time before that, and I'm pretty sure it's been stated that she can only do one bite of healing at a time since it drains a massive amount of her chakra.

 

Totally false.

If anything, this fight shows that he relies almost entirely on his Izanagi spam and not his uber skills. Sure he's a jounin level ninja, but a well versed opponent wouldn't even have broken a sweat against him.

Jiraiya would have ripped him to pieces with ease. Danzou does not impress me at all.

 

Possibly, but he can still bite her and receive that minimal amount of healing that her remaining chakra would provide.

So? Sasuke relies almost entirely on his Sharingan and, lo and behold, he's one of the strongest ninja currently alive and breathing. I'm basing this on a total power rating, not uber skillz or personal bias. If this were entirely skills, as you say Howdy, then Konoha would not be the strongest village in existence, simply because, of their remaining strongest ninja, one is a jinchuuriki with a heart of gold who sees the world in black and white, one is in a coma, and the other, while strong, has something in his skillset that debilitates his combat prowess in that he is not of the Uchiha, therefore his Sharingan takes a considerably larger amount of chakra to power (iirc). I'm not saying that everyone else in Konoha is weak, but Naruto, Tsunade, and Kakashi are leagues above nearly everyone in Konoha and the ones who can keep up with the trio usually have some advantage over them, such as Gai being the God of Taijutsu and The Power Of Youth.

Yes, Jiraiya would have ripped him to pieces with ease. Why didn't he? Oh that's right, Danzo was the leader of ROOT and happened to, at the time, cover his actions pretty damn well, well enough that while Jiraiya KNEW he was connected to X, he couldn't prove it.

Simply because Danzou relied on Izanagi does not detract from the fact that he is a good or great shinobi. Pain relied pretty heavily upon the Rinnegan, but that didn't detract from the fact that he was one of the strongest ninja to ever live. Pain used the Rinngan well, which, while Danzou certainly did not use Izanagi or Mokuton well, he put up a hell of a fight to a ninja who canonically MUST be as strong as Naruto to ensure that the inevitable showdown doesn't become a Curbstomp Battle. Danzou showed proficiency in Wind jutsu, as well as doubtless having an incredibly large chakra capacity, I would wager it rivaled Kisame's, in that he could sustain simultaneous use of eleven Sharingan and on top of that using Mokuton to create a tree, while being neither Senju or Uchiha.

If anything else, this fight was a waiting game and nothing more, since Sasuke really only needed to wait out Danzou's Sharingarm.

Furthermore, Howdy, your insinuation that Danzou was a jonin-class ninja questionable. It's been implied by the series that Genin are fresh meat who haven't ever killed someone, Chuunin are cannon fodder, Jonin are some of the best there is, Special Jonin have Jonin level skill in ONE area, ANBU are somewhere between Chuunin and Jonin, and finally, the Kage level ninja are the best of the Jonin, and hand-picked by their predecessor.

To head anyone who comments on this off at the pass, I am of the opinion that the Daimyo's mere presence at the new Hokage's selection was a political maneuver on Konoha's part to get funding for the Rebuild Konoha Effort.

So, to cease my rambling, Danzou was a Kage-level shinobi, although one who bogarted his way into the seat. To assist this point, Akatsuki is made of S-Class Missing-Nin. As Kakashi is only A-Ranked and Minato was S (or possibly SS, I'm not sure), I would tend to assume that S-class nin are Kage-level or just below that. As such, it makes little to no sense for Sasuke to have beaten Deidara or Itachi (albeit through questionable means, a win is a win) and not beat Danzou.

And finally, Howdy, did you not notice the 'currently alive and breathing' part? I didn't say ever. I said that out of those currently with a pulse, he's in the top tier of that group. This would put him amongst Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the other Kage.

 

If you want to make a list of the 20 most powerful living ninja, then Danzou is probably on that list.

My point was simply that he didn't impress me too much. His trick was surviving fatal attacks, and he was hit by plenty of them. He only had the ability to do this in one fight, which he lost to Sasuke.

This is another one of those fights where things like "chakra capacity" crop up - something you don't see talked about in the fights between true heavy hitters like Naruto and Jiraiya. Sasuke's opponents need handicaps for him to beat them, almost always, and Izanagi was sure as hell one for Danzou, since he died the second it ended.

 

Chakra supply doesnt crop up as much with them for a couple reasons. Naruto uses attacks that need a lot of chakra, but Naruto has a huge chakra supply. Jiraiya was a far smarter Shinobi than just about anyone we have seen. He knew his limits and how to fight to those limits. He obviously had a lot of chakra but probably no more than his old teammates.

@Sin Saiori

Naruto might only have a few techniques compared with alot of Shinobi, but atleast he worked his ass off to acquire them. Sasuke just pulls something new out of his ass whenever it appears he is starting to get into even a little trouble.




Im still wishing Bee had kicked Sasuke's ass instead of deciding to go on vacation.

 

I'll be honest, it's really nice to see a main character who works so hard to get anything done, then gets it done right.

But, damn. Naruto could be an SS class nin no problem if he set out to do it. Years worth of experience in a single day, more control than any kage...the list goes on. Don't get me wrong, he's already hella powerful, and as far as chakra capacity goes he's a god.

But he'll get around to fighting Sasuke and all of a sudden, all his hard work and stamina won't amount to shit. I'm honestly surprised Sasuke can actually control his own bowl movements after all the shit he's pulled out of his ass.

 

Why are you people still reading this?

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Don't act like such a troll.

 

Frankly I think that Naruto is stronger than any Kage, at this point. He may well be the strongest ninja alive.

However, Kishimoto will undoubtedly try to screw with him, just because he needs some conflict. I am not at all a fan of inexplicably!uber!Sasuke. It cheapens the story.