Naruto was born with whisker marks.... I find it difficult to accept this. Most jinchuuriki have markings signifying their holding a Bijuu, I remember that being said in canon, but as far as I can see Kushina doesn't have any and neither did Uzumaki what's her face (Hashirama's wife). Some of the chakra leaking into him is all well and good but him being born with whiskers just seems like a mistake to me... unless of course we're going to find out that the kyuubi somehow did a stowaway on the baby and escaped the confines of Kushina's wretched snatch.

This isn't the first time something like this has cropped up and I'm pretty sure its not just my imagination, or fanfiction for that matter, that's got me confused. This series can be so inconsistent at times.

This chapter's only served to annoy me... He's definitely been reading fanfiction, there's no doubt left in my mind. A shame though as it appears he hasn't come across any good ones.

Whoever suggested ignoring all this shit and just pushing onwards.. you're right... its all anyone can do really... I mean, 500 chapters in, to just stop reading now would be pointless though one day I just might gouge out my own eyes anyway.

The first Hokage that created the village and was so revered was married to an Uzumaki and no-one's made any kind of connection to Kushina or Naruto?? Tsunade remembers her grandad but not her grandmother?

I guess wives aren't all that important- she must not have been mentioned at all in any recollections by the older generation or in any history books. As a matter of fact, all records of that entire clan must have been erased in some massive operation... how the fuck else is the author intending to explain the massive questions raised as a result of his most recent revelations.

Naruto related to the sage... Annoying, but I saw it coming a few chapters ago. Guess Kishi's gone neo-hollywood with this; I mean, underdog stories are sooooo yesterday.

This Uzumaki clan thing.... this highly respected clan.... so much so in fact that Konoha, a fucking village (the fucking village in fact), carries this clan's symbol on its ninja outfits out of respect, yet no-one really knows of them at all throughout the series....? No-one expresses any kind of recognition at Naruto's name? The clan so revered by Konoha and feared by others during the wars for its sealing techniques.... This clan that's supposedly well known for their longevity.... No-one? Really?

Orochimaru.... no interest? Cmon man... longevity.... its half of what you've been looking for.... to think he's been so dismissive of Naruto and never tried to take an Uzumaki. Heck, he could have had Kushina.... the time frame he left in had the third still being Hokage but having already chosen the fourth, that puts Kushina at a decent age, a strong ninja and probably unpregnant- ripe for a body-snatching.

I dunno... fuck it... i'm going to bed

 

Also, the other two Jinchuuruki had no problem sealing the Kyuubi, so why did Minato had to summon the devil/death god to do it anyways? Couldn't he have used the same sealing technique the others used?

Or did Hashirama's Bloodline limit include demon sealing as well, conveniently?

 

Or maybe switching it from person to person is easier and doesn't require the death god? Or maybe it just had to be subdued and no one could do it, so they had to call the death god

 

Odds are Minato's use of the Death God has something to do with the circumstances surrounding the Kyuubi's release. Summoning the Death God could have been driven by time constraints; other sealing methods might need a lot of prep time, and taking a couple hours to get things set up just right is not really an option if the Kyuubi is rampaging through Konoha.

Also, at least in the case of the first Kyuubi jinchuriki, Hashirama was there, which would make the sealing a lot easier to handle.

 

Maybe the fact that Madara was controlling Kyuubi stopped the normal sealing technique and required the death god to stop him and seal the kyuubi.

 

Please, PLEASE don't give Kishimoto ideas. Next thing you know, this will be retconned into the story (although, admittedly, it's pretty likely to happen anyway)...

 

Hashirama's wife could seal the Kyuubi away because the chapter says Hashirama managed to gain control of it in his fight against Madara. Transfering it to Kushina may not have been as much of a problem because they had more than enough time to prepare - months if need be. But for Minato, without Hashirama's powers or the time needed to use the sealing knowledge he gained from Kushina and the Kyuubi being controlled by Madara again, I guess the Shiki Fuuin was the best bet.

As to why nobody realized Naruto was Minato's and Kushina's son, from what I gathered nobody really knew much about it other than that Kushina was pregnant. Obviously, Mikoto would know as Kushina told her that they intended to name their sprog Naruto, but very few others would. In fact, I'm getting the feeling that even Jiraiya and Tsunade were at first guessing (correctly, of course) about Naruto's heritage, based on coincidences - or at least, that's what the idiot Kishimoto intended to show. So, Konoha knew Kushina was expecting, but did not know that it was Naruto that was born to them...

Eh, whatever. The whole thing is now beyond ridiculous. The sheer number of plot holes and problems that come up after something like this...the story is now actively regressing.

 

I'm okay with Naruto's markings being natural. After all, Killer Bee doesn't seem to have any "jinchuuriki" characteristics either, so it doesn't seem to be a firm rule. Kushina also said that jinchuuriki had unusual pregnancies, so I think it works. After all, how many female jinchuuriki had kids, do you figure? Kushina's predecessor is the only one we know about, and considering how jinchuuriki are looked at and the risks involved in the pregnancy, I imagine that there have been very few.

One thing that struck me was the fact that Kushina and Minato were a couple for a really long time, considering they probably died in their mid-twenties. I find it hard to believe that there was any confusion as to who the father of Kushina's child was, and considering Naruto's obvious resemblance to his parents - in both appearance and attitude - it's a bit of a stretch for us to believe that nobody figured this out.

 

Howdy! Any chance of a more decent Naruto update (not that that's too difficult) from you?

 

You know, begging for updates usually has the opposite effect.

 

Ah well, just really annoyed with the manga now. Apologies if I bothered you, Howdy.

 

I have to agree; jinchuriki having kids is probably a really rare thing; Kushina and her predecessor might be the only two examples in the contemporary Naruto-verse. I could easily some of the more authoritarian villages telling their female jinchuriki they were not allowed to get pregnant and/or terminating any pregnancies. For that matter, Konoha might have done so if not for the fact that both times Konoha's jinchuriki was married to the Hokage. The fact that female jinchuriki seem to be relatively rare in the first place further decreases the chances of this happening.

Also, it occurs to me that this means Tsunade is the granddaughter of a jinchuriki and she is also quite possibly Naruto's closest living relative (depending on how closely related Kushina and the first Uzumaki jinchuriki were). Both of these facts should have come up a long time time ago.

Agreed; the fact that Naruto looks so much like Minato that pretty much everyone reading Naruto guessed the truth hundreds of issues before Kishimoto officially confirmed it doesn't help. When Minato's wife, who he has been together with for a long time, has a kid that looks exactly like Minato, it's kind of hard to see anyone coming up with a convincing explanation other than Naruto being Minato's son.

 

No, it was never mentioned that babies needed to be the jinchuriki. In one of the sourcebooks, Yugito is mentioned at having become one at age 2, and we just saw motherfucking Killer Bee at age 5 not 10 chapters ago. Heck, the Sage did it as a grown man.

And seriously, if you're pitting ANBU against a man who tames bjuu and goes head to head with Kages and lives and calling the ANBU useless, then I'd like to see what you wouldn't call useless.

Seriously, for all the haters, this was a pretty good chapter. We finally found out why they suspected the Uchiha, why the villagers hate Naruto and its justified in a way, the history of the Uzumaki clan (which isn't all that badass, considering they all died like bitches), and the location of Whirlpool, now Wave. We've met the Sandaime's wife, Naruto has a good reason to kick the everloving shit out of Madera instead of Sasuke's stupid ass, and instead of being an outsider to all the issues of the Elemental Countries, Naruto is neck deep in the history and problems!

Finally, we're going to see Madara versus Minato. We finally see the Fourth Hokage's rape-face and just why he was flee-on-sight.

 

Oh, there could've been no confusion regarding the father of Kushina's child. I was thinking along the lines of very few people knowing that Naruto was born to Minato and Kushina at all. Stories would probably have been spread that their child died with them or something during Minato's battle with the Kyuubi and that Naruto was a random orphan.

Not too much of a stretch, considering the extents some people have gone to (Sandaime) to keep his heritage a secret. But yeah, it is ridiculous that, coupled with his name (obnoxiously obvious hint there) and his looks - though he seems to resemble his mother more, actually - the general populace didn't put two and two together. The only ones to have done so successfully, seem to be Jiraiya, Tsunade and Kakashi and all three of them had access to far more inside knowledge. Maybe Kishimoto wants to portray all inhabitants of the Naruto-world as dimwits?

Bah, I'm just going with my usual thing - this is not meant for grown-ups, its meant for young teens and lesser ages and take it as such. Its actually quite enjoyable that way (Edit: props to Hashasheen's post). I'll give myself an aneurism if I try to find logic in this.

 

That would be nice, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

I agree that mystery of Naruto parentage is now more than little ridiculous. Maybe if Hokage changed his name it would make sense, but he was named Naruto Uzumaki and no one made connection between him, 4th and Kushina?

Also, after seeing Naruto being hold by Madara I've been thinking - how much more badass would it be, if Naruto whiskers were in fact scars he got from Madara when he was blackmailing Minato. That would be new level of evilness for Madara - torturing newborn baby.

 

I don't expect ANBU to win against Madara, however, I expect that if there are five of them, that they at least manage to fight him somehow and warn those they were supposed to protect.

Also, how did it explain the suspicion against the Uchiha? Madara was considered dead and he was probably the only one strong enough to control the kyuubi in the first place and they knew where the kyuubi was at all time since it was sealed for years. So why blame the Uchiha for it if they don't really had a reason for doing so?

lol, "do you want to know how I got these scars?"

 

Maybe because Madara, being the storyteller he is, will tell everyone present his plan in detail, so they can be awed by his evil genius.

Did you also expect ANBU, who usually are just chunnin, to do anything against any S-ranked ninja? It looks like the only protection they had was secrecy (and the barrier thing, which is useless against Madara) and ANBU were present to run errands or something.

 

Just watched the latest episode of the anime, the first 15 minutes or so was like wtf!? But the last 5 minutes or so when its mostly inside Naruto's mind is great. But once again the first 15 minutes or so during the battle is just retarded.

 

I agree; Naruto's encounter with the Kyuubi was great. The rest of the episode ... well, it was rather awful in some parts.